Member: Curtis L
Location: Goliad, Tx
Date: 6/9/2002
Time: 7:16:04 PM

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THE MOTIVE STEP............ Step Ten in the Twelve and Twelve has helped me as much as any other single action that I've found in this program. So many lessons in the 8 1/3 pages. -The purpose of inventories -Different time factors on inventories -Balance -Root cause of feelings -Actions to be avoided -Actions to be embraced -Identifying OUR, not theirs, defects -Priorities -p. 93 "pain is the touchstone of all spiritual progess -Motive, root cause and condition. The word motive is used seven times on page 94. I had never known what my true drivers were prior to AA. The rigoreous self honesty required by this step allowed me to see how and why people and places controlled me even when I could do nothing about the people and places. Had to really dig down deep to find the starting point of my emotional disturbance. Usually it was fear; mostly fear of not getting my way. Rationalzation and justification has been honed to razor sharpness, and I had used these tools to justify my anger and hurt feeling. In truth, I simply wasn't in control of other people and things. My selfishness and desire for power were controlling me. Today, thanks to Step Ten, I can look at myself in a more honest manner, and see that I need to accept God's world as it is unless there is some specific action that I can take to act on my belief of what His will is for me. Frequently, I simply pray and turn it over to him.


Member: Gage
Location: Louisiana
Date: 6/9/2002
Time: 10:16:52 PM

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I'm Gage, and I am an alcoholic. A friend of mine gave me a book for my first AA birthday that has a passage in it that I think may be applicable to this step. It says that when we seek God we should consider whether it is for something we want God to do for us, or are we seeking God because we just want God? It explains that if what we seek is just God, then we will have whatever it is we could possibly need God to do for us. I think this is what Bill and his fellows had discovered when they decided upon the wording for this step.


Member: Robin A
Location: Florida
Date: 6/9/2002
Time: 10:32:47 PM

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My name is Robin, and I am an alcoholic. I have been taught that Prayer is "Talking to G~d" and Meditation is "Listening to G~d" The G~d of my understanding-that is. I had the pleasure to listen to Dr. Bob's son; Smitty, speak today at a "Founders Day" function in Largo, FL. What a message of HOPE he relayed. He said his father-Dr. Bob, put the very basics of AA into three little words that were extremely important to him, "Love and Service" what a simple concept for a bunch of alcoholics to use in order to get and to stay sober. I took what I needed from todays talk-and that was EVERYTHING! For that, I am grateful (to be an alcoholic) Thanks for letting me share today.


Member: ChuckM
Location: Alberta
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 3:02:46 AM

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I'm Chuck, an alcoholic To me step 11 is the daily living AA program. In the book it tells me how to meditate at night, how to meditate in the morning. What to do if I face indecision, what to pray for and what to do if I become agitated. The whole purpose is for me to think about my God all through the day. If I do this I retain my sanity which controls my character defects. Not being perfect(yet) if I slip out of this spirituality step 10 guides me through steps 4 to 9 back to sanity. Step 12 is God's will for me. Carry the message that we need a spiritual awakening but don't panic we get it by doing the steps.(little bits at a time). If I stay in contact with my God I can not hurt anyone in all my affairs. Peace and Serenity


Member: Scott R
Location: Nova Scotia
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 9:22:50 AM

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Hi I'm Scott and I'm an alcoholic. Lately my conscious contact has been on the fritz, however, through effort I'm getting it back. I like what chuck said about the steps cycle through themselves. Anyway, I have to do the work to maintain the contact...it is no different than keeping in touch with friends: pick up the phone, send an email, whatever...with my HP I have pray and meditate and look for knowledge of his will for me and what action to take to carry it out. It works, it really works!


Member: Melissa R.
Location: Ohio
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 2:08:56 PM

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Melissa, alcoholic here, step 11.....I try to pray everyday. Make conscience contact, even if it's just a 2 minute prayer, "hi God, it's me, thanks for keeping me sober and please help those sick and suffering" That's what I do, sometimes more, sometimes you feel more spiritual than other times. I don't think God minds, I think He likes it much better than when I refused to talk to Him at all. Anyway, I know I feel better about it. Happy 24 (((room)))


Member: Melissa R.
Location: Ohio
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 2:10:20 PM

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Melissa, alcoholic here, step 11.....I try to pray everyday. Make conscience contact, even if it's just a 2 minute prayer, "hi God, it's me, thanks for keeping me sober and please help those sick and suffering" That's what I do, sometimes more, sometimes you feel more spiritual than other times. I don't think God minds, I think He likes it much better than when I refused to talk to Him at all. Anyway, I know I feel better about it. Happy 24 (((room)))


Member: tracy
Location:
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 2:17:09 PM

Comments

page 86 in our big book


Member: Joanna F.
Location: NW
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 5:55:09 PM

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Joanna-Alcoholic- prayer and meditation is hard for me to define, but what I know, is the longer I am sober the more comfortable I am in Gods will. I am very grateful to be sober today, June 10th, 1996 I came into the rooms of AA. I have 6 years of continuous sobriety. I am so amazed, proud, grateful, and blessed. AA gave me a HP, and the ability, one day at a time, to ask for direction, and it all started with, not taking the drink. WOW. I dont belive there is a wrong way to pray, or meditate, its all learning and forever changing. My God listens, even when I am talking to others. All my best to everyone, Joanna


Member: lisa m
Location: ms
Date: 6/10/2002
Time: 11:22:44 PM

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hi i am lisa an alcoholic, i use the serenity prayer a lot for my praying. i pause and really think about what each word means. when it says and "the wisdom to know the difference" to me that is mediating and letting God send me the right thought. Thy will be done not mine. thanks lisa


Member: Louis LG
Location: Ottawa,Canada
Date: 6/11/2002
Time: 2:06:11 PM

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Louis,alkie Congratulations Joanna for your 6 years.


Member: Kamil S.
Location: Camp Pendleton, CA
Date: 6/11/2002
Time: 3:29:08 PM

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The serenity prayer comes in handy in a lot of situations...especially when I get extremly anxious...I follow that with a traditional prayer also and it truly helps me to remain hopeful in my life long battle against alchohol.


Member: Jack B
Location: Palo Alto, Pa
Date: 6/12/2002
Time: 2:17:40 AM

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Hi, I am Jack, a real alcoholic. Step 11 for me is strengthening my faith in God and continuing to realize that he doesn't give me anything more than I am capable of handling in a 24hr day.Thru this step, I come to realize, sometimes grudgingly, that God is doing for me what I am not capable of doing for myself. As far as God's will for me today, I have no idea except I know for certain he does not want me to pick up that first drink. Whatever God's will for me today is, I know is 100% better that what my will for me could possibly be. I have learned that God is not a mystery to be solved, but a miracle to experience. Thanks for allowing me to share and God Bless.


Member: Sarah
Location: NW USA
Date: 6/12/2002
Time: 1:53:51 PM

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"Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood him, praying only for knowledge of his will for us and the power to carry that out." I once asked woman with twenty years soberity about 'God, God's will, and power' her reply was the "Healing Power" being given and recieved. Almost twenty years have past since then and many things have happened in my life and in the world ... But I can really apperciate her answer ... the simplicity, the wisdom, the "Healing Power" Thanks, one and all for sharing your Experience, Strength and Hope it has given a "Healing Power"


Member: Jim F
Location: Guilin, China
Date: 6/12/2002
Time: 7:28:28 PM

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Jim, alcoholic. Does anyone remember what it was like early on trying to memorize the Serenity Prayer. It took me 3 months to get it down right. Do you think alcohol might have had something to do with it? On the irreverent side, I once heard an old-timer say, Don't get too spiritual with the newcomer because he might puke on your shoes. Early on, I walked into an 11th step meeting by accident one night. People were sitting around talking by firelight, smoking pipes, and generally just basking in the firelight of the spirit. I never went back, but I was certainly not in their place at that time. Would I seek out such a meeting today? Probably not. Isn't it great that we have such a variety to choose from? Jim from Sequim


Member: Michael B.
Location: AZ
Date: 6/13/2002
Time: 1:05:35 AM

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Hi! My name is Michael, and I am a recovering alcoholic and addict, sober today only by the Grace of God and the Fellowship. Thanks for the sincere shares. Welcome newcomers! I'v made some excellent progress with my prayer life through my years of living sober, although meditation has been more challenging for me. In any case, despite the progress I've made, there is plenty of room for imrovement, which makes this Step a real challenge and one of my favorites, since I know improvement in this Step usually means deeper spiritual understanding, i.e., closer heartfelt contact with my God.


Member: Jennifer
Location: South Carolina
Date: 6/13/2002
Time: 9:20:41 PM

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Jennifer, grateful sober alkie here:) Funny how our whole program is geared toward becoming conscious again. I spent my whole drinking career running from family, friends, God, reality... me... Now, I trudge toward the very things alcohol told me to run from. And It works?! To the newcomer I say, "Don't quit 5 minutes before the miracle happens." You're in for the ride of your life... and you're not alone:)


Member: Dee G.
Location:
Date: 6/14/2002
Time: 10:26:09 PM

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Hi, I'm Dee, an alcoholic. I appreciate everyone's comments. I'm relatively new to the program and need to see all the encouraging words here. Each day I start with the serenity prayer- it's simple power helps me to face whatever the day may bring. I try and set aside a half hour everyday to meditate and pray- to open myself to God and to his will for me. For a long time I felt that God had more imporatnt things to do than bothering with me. The AA fellowship has taught me that this isn't so. One of the most powerful things I heard in rehab was that I was allowed to be alive while others have died because I still have God's work to do. This just about blew me away- imagine insignificant me having some higher purpose in life. I just hope I'm ready to recognize it when the opportunity (ies) arise. Thanks everyone for being there.


Member: anonymous alcoholic
Location: 2689 Ridgecrst Drive
Date: 6/15/2002
Time: 8:52:17 AM

Comments

I need to actually do step #11 on a more consistent basis. Thanks.


Member: AnilG
Location: MtVernon,IL
Date: 6/15/2002
Time: 2:57:10 PM

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I am anilG I am an alcoholic and an addict I believe in order to keep our sanity is through prayer and meditation our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. I have kept the courage and strengh from my HP to do pray regularly and learn the right thing ask from my HPfor guidance.thank to aa.


Member: Steve S.
Location: Sacramento
Date: 6/15/2002
Time: 4:05:22 PM

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MY LIFE - Recent experiences in the life-long battle for sanity and freedom from chemical dependancey, have made it very clear to me that "clarity" is something I would very much like to have. As I become middle-aged I feel my opportunities are fewer and the past reflects how few and far beteween my moments of clarity have really been. I hope my passage to convey at least this, the clarity I seek is a gift from God which is only to be recieved by my "poisitioning" myself in-line to recieve it. As with Step 10 + 11. It is this poisitioning exercise which reminds me of the basics of the program. To live substance free. Don't drink. To trust God, and live with understanding that the use of mind-altering rituals which require me to reley on people and the man-made things, will always fail me. To accept this as part of my recovery and be aware that it is in direct conflict with the core of my "human-beingness" (the wants, needs, and drives), and the disease which turns these instincts into liabilities and make 'clarity' astonishingly difficult to achieve. To remind my self on a dayly basis. After a good nights rest the "ego" or subconscience has had time to work-over my mind, thoughts, or dreams, and I need to begin, end, and live my day in conscious-contact, clarity seeking actions. Work with others. Where two or more are gathered in "My Name", God is there. The only requirement for success is your capacity to be honest, the willingness, and open-mind,. Which like clarity can be a gift. Step 10 + 11 help me to get in-line with God to reicive it.