Member: Robert T
Location: Beaverton, Oregon
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 10:17:43 AM

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My name is Robert alcoholic, I woke up this morning with a clear head. Last night I spent some quality time with my grandson. This morning I got on my knees and said the third step prayer. I know I am going to be o.k. today. What a change over what my life used to be like. It is easier to stay sober once I decided I wanted to change.


Member: Jeff T.
Location: Ne.
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 11:19:44 AM

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Good morning Robert, my name is Jeff i`m an alcoholic. In my drinking days most of my mornings consisted of frantic attemps to try & remember where i was or what i did the nite before & slipping outside before anyone in the house woke up to look the car over for new dents or damage & thank God no blood stains. You see i was a blackout drinker. At times i would be so afraid to go out side that i would look out the window first to see if the car was there or not & mumbling a short "God help me prayer", while knowing that God was not going to help me anyway cause i was going to hell for my actions. Even tho i don`t get to many meetings much lately i still do read a page out of the daily refections book & meditate each morning & thank Him at nite for this day of soberity. That feeling of knowing that life is good, still stays with me today also. No matter what happens today as long as i dont drink i will be ok. There is not any thing that we cant handle if we seek help from a higher power. Thanks, Jeff


Member: J-Rae
Location: N.D.
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 11:21:22 AM

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My name is J-Rae, alcoholic. Setting New Ideals? I'd like Other's Experience, Strength,and Hope in this area. Thanks.


Member: Mikef
Location: Millville,NJ
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 11:51:14 AM

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My name is Mikef alcoholic. Jeff T I could relate to what you were saying being a blackout drinker. I certainly was also. I pray I never forget those days of waking up and noy knowing what I did or the fear of whom I might of harmed. I am greatfull for what gift has been freely givin to me. I am greatfull for the fact I am alive today and givin a chance to feel today and not have to run from what I once feared. I have many problems that I deal with today and there is not a day that goes by that God reminds of who I am and where I come from. This I look forward to everyday when I wake up. It is nice to know also I don't have to run or look over my shoulder either. Just thought I would drop in cause I never have done this before. Mikef


Member: Sharon Frey
Location: Portland, Oregon, (suuny and nice)
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 1:51:54 PM

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Every day in my life has the same goal,to stay sober. But my day has choices, and it is those choices I make in living that keeps me either on or off the path of my goal.. I learned 24+ yrs. ago.. to keep it simple. Wake up thank God I stayed sober.. then ask for HIS guidence for the day. LIVE that day as if it was my last day on earth, then at night Thank my God for a great day.. even tho it might not have seem such a great day.. for you see I didn't know HIS plan and it may have been a greater day than I "thought".Since being physically ill this last year, I try to live each moment as my last, for it has been that close for me. My program is teaching me Gratitude. for when I am Grateful, I can't be hateful. Thanks for letting me come back from the brink and share . Never has my soberiety been shakey. just my health. Love and prayers, Sharon Frey slfrey@Yahoo.com


Member: Chris H
Location: Canada
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 1:55:59 PM

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Saying the 3rd Step prayer always helps the rest of my day go better, because if I don't start the day off with a spiritual connection, then my self will takes me to strange, stressful, and conflicting places. I want love, companionship, romance, happiness, joy, peace, and serenity in my life, but if I run off my self will, and do not turn my life over daily, these things slip between my fingers as I try harder I try to grasp them. When I let go and let God, a day at a time, I have more peace of mind and life gets easier. Thanksgiving is coming soon and I look forward to nice company, turkey dinners, and pumpkin pie. Something to look forward to. La LAPOMPOSA


Member: JL
Location: The Beach
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 2:25:47 PM

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Jeff here, alcoholic. It seems that the topic here is wide ranging. As long as I stay sober and work the program to the best of my ability everything works out ok. I too went to bed last night and thanked god for another day sober. A day with friends and family. A day of no regrets, or amends that had to be made. I too remembered what I did and said last night. I didn't have to sit at the breakfast table with my wife wondering, how I got home and trying to piece together what I could of another night deep in my disease. It wasn't always this way. Before I began the day I also said the 3rd step prayer, the 7th step prayer and said to god Thy will be done! So there is a theme here and to me that is a god of my understanding. And a daily reprieve based on my spiritual condition. Life is good.


Member: John H
Location: Indiana, USA
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 5:39:00 PM

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Hi all, from John, an alcoholic. Robert T., you indicated that you are a grandfather. So am I, also a great-grandfather as of six weeks ago.Which proves that young or older, the AA program works if we simply follow and put into action the 12 steps respectfully of the 12 traditions.This is the week of American Thanksgiving. In our program each day is one of thanksreceiving as well as thanksgiving. The program, the people within along with the Higher Power provide us with the experience, strength and hope that makes us free of alcohol dependency--and leads us to a happier life with spiritual values. We find that we learn the value to doing the best we can with what we have. We find truth and the truth does set us free---free of fear, resentment, alcohol and the other negatives that were controlling betterment. May you all find happiness on Thanksgiving. Go to a meeting, call a program member, and allow God's blessings enter your thoughts and actions.


Member: Pat G.
Location: Annapolis, Md.
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 6:33:27 PM

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Hi to everyone! My name is Pat and I'm a "recovering alcoholic." I always have to remember that I'm in recovery. I know my disease is doing "push ups" in the parking lot...just waiting. Therefor, I need to: 1)Don't drink today, 2)Get to a meeting and 3) Say my prayers; thanking God for all that He has GIFTED me. Sobriety is a gift to anyone that wants it;all you have to do is just "ask."


Member: Charlie Darling
Location: Ft Myers via Key West
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 6:35:35 PM

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Hi Family Charlie Darling a very grateful alcholic, Boy suc a great topic I believe that through prayer and the hands of AA I stay sober another day. I too say certain prayers each mornung the 3rd, 7th, and 11th step prayers as my home goup was the attitude adjustment group in Key West, and each meeting which was every mornin at 8am, we said those 3 prayers, and it helped get through the day which made one feel more gratitude through out the day. Sharon I like the phrase when I am Grateful I am not hatful, I always said a greatful heart is a sber heart. Thank you all for being here, it means so muc for this gratful recovering alcholic. kwduke_1999@yahoo.com


Member: Margaret W.
Location: Winnipeg,Canada
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 8:15:22 PM

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Hi, I'm Margaret and, i'm an alcoholic. I'm having a hard time with prayer. With letting go. I've been sober for over a year and a half so, i still feel like a babay in this. I'm also trying to figure out, how do i know what is God's will for me?


Member: John H
Location: Indiana, USA
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 9:22:32 PM

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Knowing God's will. My criteria is if I feel honestly good about a thought, statement and action, then it must have been God's will. If not, it must have been my own will. perhaps not that simple, but it is a guideline that helps to keep one aware of the importance of turning to God for an answer.


Member: kimberley
Location: wasington
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 11:02:27 PM

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kimberley here grateful alcholic, i say grateful today and mean it!!! i could have never imagined the lofe i have been so freely given, thanksgiving always makes me thank everyone whos lives have touched mine in sobriety, im ver grtaeful also for this site keeping us all connected, have a great holiday. Love kimberley


Member: Robin A
Location: FL rjamato@hotmail.com
Date: 11/24/2002
Time: 11:33:45 PM

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Hi all; Robin, alcoholic and addict of MORE here... ((Margaret)) I heard someone share just yesterday about G~ds will and it has stuck with me. If your debating whether to do something or not...if you don't really want to do it-thats probably G~ds will for you...if you really do want to do it-thats your will. Hope that makes sense-in the meeting hearing the words actually made alot more sense to me then seeing them written out here. But thats the beauty of going to f2f meetings. You can hear in ones voice and see in ones eyes exactly what they mean vs reading the typed word here on the WWW. Thanks for the mental reminder.


Member: Erma G.
Location: Utica,N.Y.
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 1:00:04 AM

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It helps me to remember that God's will is always easy.If I'm trying to force something to happen and I'm getting roadblocks then I can pretty much figure I'm headed in the wrong direction.Having an understanding of what God's will is NOT is a lot easier than guessing what it is or might be.If I try to stear clear of the 7 deadly sins ...that's a start.I know that for myself...if I'm rationalizing,justifying and arguing about it in my head...it's probably my will,it's probably wrong and I'd better quit while I'm ahead.Thanks for being here and for letting me share.


Member: Bob B
Location: Vanderbilt, Mi
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 5:55:20 AM

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Hi to all, Bob here, alcoholic. To Margaret; Classic question which is what AA is all about. The book doesn't tell us to stop drinking. It is about our thinking so what is that all about? This is the reason for the 12 steps...to find and be rid of what our problem is and it sure isn't drinking. We drank so we couldn't see our problem. The steps allow us to look at what caused us to drink in the first place, before we became alcholics. What is our will? Did we run our lives as we REALLY wanted to? If so did we bankrupt it? If so do we want to still be in charge and run it OUR WAY? God's will is hard to see if we are always doing it OUR WAY. First we find out what our will is, then turn it over to God because WE CAN"T RUN IT and we don't get the results we want. Once we SEE (as in written) what our will is it is a simple matter to give it to God and ask his will for us. Then read page 452 of the 3rd Edition of the Big Book. It then tells us what Gods will is for us. A meeting each day for the rest of your life won't get you sober. It is "achieved" through taking the 12 steps. Not drinking is a "pre-recequesite" to getting sober. Keep asking questions and the answers will come or do it quickly and do it by the book. Hang in there. Things get better if you get better. God bless you all.


Member: Marv L
Location: Laurel,Ms
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 6:44:28 AM

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Hi,Im Marv,recovering alcoholic.Good topic! Thanks for your shares;turning it over without letting go can sure get hectic,and I need to be reminded Bob,that things do get better when I get better! I woke this morning full of gratitude for this Holiday week--its wonderful to look forward to another day sober,and I can do this if what I feel,and what I say,and what I do are in line.My last drunk Thanksgiving was 21 years ago,and the misery of trying to be a part of friends and family,and yet at the same time drink like i needed to,was horrible.So the AA answer is to stop being the person I was,and that comes as I work the steps day by day.Heard a program about the first Thanksgiving--that year,of 102 pilgrims,over half had died,and the 50 who celebrated Thanksgiving were truly aware they had reason to thank God for his care. For us alcoholics,seeing that God is doing for us what we cannot do for ourselves sure point me to make sobriety my priority.Am getting to see four grandkids this week--whatta gift recovery is!!The answers will come if we seek them.I love y"all!


Member: JOHN,D
Location: MIAMI
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 1:35:54 PM

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THANK YOU A A .thank YOU.


Member: JOHN,D
Location: MIAMI
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 1:35:56 PM

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THANK YOU A A .thank YOU.


Member: JOHN,D
Location: MIAMI
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 1:36:53 PM

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THANK YOU A A .thank YOU.


Member: AZbill
Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Date: 11/25/2002
Time: 7:14:39 PM

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Hi. Bill here. Alcoholic from Arizona. On Friday August 21, 1981; I woke up in a bed that had not been changed for months. There was a partial bottle on the floor that I had been sipping on in between fitful dozes through out the night. I was living in a shed/chicken coop that had been made into a "still incomplete" apartment. I picked up that bottle and took it to the bathroom and sat next to the toilet and sipped and puked until the booze would stay down and I had stopped shaking. Picked out a different dirty shirt from the dirty clothes basket and headed out to drink the rest of the day to start yet another cycle of the SOS. Around three that afternoon. I set down a half of a gin and tonic, walked out of that barroom, never to return to a bar room to drink. This morning I woke up under clean fresh sheets. Said the 3rd Step prayer. Had many clean shirts in the closet to choose from. Drawers full of clean socks and underwear. I am a homeowner here in Arizona and have a second home/rental unit in the Denver Metro area. My refrigerator is over flowing with fresh food and no mold. There are clean dishes to eat from and in cabinets....not piled in the sink with mold and pond scum. I would say that my ideals and life have changed some. Every day I wake up and put my feet on the floor and if they work I feel blessed. Things usually get better from there. The more I do this AA thing the more I feel it is a start living program as much as it is a stop drinking program. Thank you all very much for saving my life twice over the years. Bill. Email, az-bill@mindpring.com


Member: Tami H.
Location: WA State
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 2:09:38 AM

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Wow! Tami, an alki from Washington State. I have read a few great things in here tonight. I would first like to thank all of you who come into these cyber and other AA rooms for such gifts. Though sharing your stories and what it was like for you, it tells the story of the newcomer. When I was newer to AA I came in hoping to "get it" though really doubting I would. I started with my first and hopefully my last DUI, that first showed my Treatment IOP, I realized without even knowing it, I WAS powerless over my addiction and "King Alcohol". I was a loyal subject for 15 years before my last drink. AA ruined that for me, for that I am truely grateful. I know that when I came here I was ready, and tryed this program out. I didn't think it would keep me from drinking though, I was wrong. I had no God or HP, I was alone, or so I thought. I failed miserably at noticing the strength and might of the HP that worked hard at getting me to take notice. The accident that left me in a coma at 7 was not the first time the'ol HP tried to say yoo hoo! THe fact that I wasn't killed or adopted by strangers or brutalized horribly as an infant in the so called care of a full blown alcoholic, wasn't the miracle that opened my eyes. The head-on collision, fault of a drunk 17 year old who crossed the centerline and hit me, the result open heart surgery + many other health ordeals now remidied nver showe me the light. And when I had so many gifts bestowed upon me financily, physicaly, mentaly, nope... It was only through AA and those 12 steps that I began to give up the fight and stop uilding resentments as a shelter to house my lack of love. I was afraid to give up, give in or to give a shit, about myself or the program. Someone asked how they would know what God's will is, I say the gift is when you realize you don't have to know. Might not make sense to a new member, so I'll tell you what worked for me when I was ready to learn and do these steps; I WOULD CONCIOUSLY NOT DO WHAT I WOULD NORMALLY DO. There, see what happens. Peace, Tami tammibob@msn.com


Member: Ray C
Location: Haines Alaska
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 2:58:04 AM

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Hi,I'm Ray an alcoholic...As far as Gods will or a H.P goes I suppose theres as many varied understandings of god as there are people in the program.The book simply says god as we understand him.Personally I feel if it feels right or dosn't leave me feeling guilty it's ok with my h.p.Honestly I don't understand god and thats fine by me,I've learned that it's not nessesary or maybe I'm just not capable,either way with just a little faith I will stay sober.Actually I'm not sure god even has personal relationships with individuals,maybe he,she or it is just a force or spirit that grants me strength when I need it.Well interpertations arn't important what is that a humbling of myself before whatever and doing what I percieve to be the right thing give me a peace and strenght to make it through and often even enjoy another 24 hours.Keep it simple works for me,thanks for the posts y'all.


Member: edsing@hotmail.com
Location: Thailand
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 3:14:03 AM

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Hi all, Ed here in sunny Thailand. I thought Gods will was quite an easy one, as in dont drink and help others especially alcoholics.As in all things though including our beloved Big Book, I"m of the variety who is slow to learn, hence I drank again after 5 years,nevertheless, I still prefer the gentle, kind way as shown by A.A. Shock treatment always rubbed me up the wrong way, another point is that I"m quite sure I couldnt identify a feeling if it hit me in the face for at least 3 years, then I started to hurt.... So I"m chugging along enjoying my new freedom, no meetings here, but they wont keep me sober< continuing on the path back to my Lord will, so for me its easy does it, but do it,Rome wasnt built in a day,spiritual progress not perfection... thankyou all for sharing its an important tool for me....


Member: Susan S
Location: Tahlequah
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 6:54:13 AM

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Good morning...I am sitting in my quiet home; thanking God for you people and others like you in my life. I am trapped in a box of perception that my life sucks. The only outlet is God and he presents himself through you. The psychic change in my life is simply that I listen to what I hear in the rooms and accept that as the truth. God is Good and I can trust him to guide me through the day if I take a few simple steps, say my prayers and don't look to the dark side. He has placed the fellowship in my life to show me how to Love by accepting Love. Thank you all for being here for my sobriety this morning.


Member:
Location: Traveling
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 7:15:53 AM

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Humm, the third step is immediately followed by the fourth step. In this I ask God to guide my thinking, and so doing then take inventory of my actions. Where have I been selfish, self seeking, and dishonest? Ah yes, but again, if I examine my motives I find the truth about myself. And, so doing, being truly sorry for my actions, usually based on fear, that mislead or otherwise harm others, I resolve to clear up my side of the street being truly sorry for any harm done. Sometimes, such fear-based action crops up again as I try to self will my life, but in the end I resolve to have God remove these defects of character and direct my future actions. In doing this I endeavor on a path to a higher place than I would otherwise be lead, and find some serenity in knowing I can make progress in my program and faith. For me, my program is progress and not perfection. Hopefully Thanksgiving with my family abroad will not be filled with the usual self will based strife this year, as so often happens when we come toghether again to celebrate this American holiday.


Member: Bill P.
Location: Michigan
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 8:39:58 AM

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To Susan S. - You are only trapped in the perception if you let yourself be. Pain occurs in our lives and we must experience it. The suffering is optional. You sound good because it sounds like you practice the 2nd step and rely heavily on God to watch over you. I thank God every morning (on my knees in prayer) and night for the opportunity to recover and experience life on life's terms, not mine. In recovery, you have a lot going for you. I hope you never forget that. God Bless you and this recovery program we call AA. Peace.


Member: AnilG
Location: MtVernon,IL
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 12:53:46 PM

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I am an alcholic and an addict to me my experiance strenght hope is to that GOD that I am stil alive. take day at a time. sometimes hr at a time for taking away my insanity giving me another chance I dont forget my HP at times when it carried me thanks to aa and alanon.


Member: Leland
Location: Santa Barbara
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 1:13:42 PM

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Thanks all for a moment in my day where I can turn over my will to read and relate to others who I am like. I think it's funny how the first few entries make such an easy claim or statement about turning "it" over to a higher power. This was and at times can still be difficult. Early in my sobriety I didn't particularly like my brand of HP and simply turned my will and life over to the rooms of AA and to the group. I'd share, then people would talk to me after the meeting. Later I developed a greater sense of an HP, but only through lots of moments of surrender, like the night I was so afraid of everything (about 90 days sober) that for the first time in my life I honestly hit my knees and asked for help. Over the span of years now I can say that I have a conscience contact with some power greater than myself. I've no name for it nor do I know how it exactly works. What I do know is that I can gain relief from most if not all of my problems by working the steps which draw me closer to this HP. Moreover, I can hear and see him in the words of other sober drunks. I feel as blessed as AZbill who shared about clean sheets and shirts. If I keep this thing really simple, I stand a great chance to be happy, joyous and free.


Member: question
Location: answer
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 5:01:27 PM

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God's will is easy if you start with the word of God..


Member: Ty V.
Location: Slidell, LA
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 8:31:18 PM

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hi,I'm Ty and I am an alcoholic. Great discussion here. I am greatful to have found this room. I am still an extreme example of self-will run riot....driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-dilusion, and self-seeking. Often I get way out in left field. Think about myself entirely too much. Selfish, self-centeredness..........and Fear have been driving me crazy the past few days. My sponsor told me when I first got sober that God wouldn't give me something that I couldn't handle. I starting to belive he is right. (maybe)...lol.....any case. I have to keep coming back....remember that I don't complain when things are going good....so why should I get to complain when things are a little rough, and sometimes it's just my turn.


Member: Jane S
Location: Denver
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 9:15:00 PM

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I am a very grateful alcoholic and god willing this will be my 18th sober Thanksgiving! I know that there is a power greater than me out there and that he has worked miracles in my life. I believe in the power of prayer and still sometimes have to learn the hard way to turn it over. I do still have bouts with self will run riot and fear but I know what to do when they come. Call my sponsor, get to a meeting, and let go. AA is the greatest thing that has happened in my life and for that I am truly greatful. I will have thanksgiving dinner with my wonderful husband and family. When I was drinking I did not know I could have a life like this. Thanks to my higher power and all my fellow travelers in AA.


Member: dj
Location: blueberry hill
Date: 11/26/2002
Time: 11:56:30 PM

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The other day I got stopped by the State Highway Patrol for driving a little too fast. I saw it comming. In a 55 zone, I was pushing 60, maby a bit more. The police officer said that I was doing 66. As in AA, I kept it simple. Polite. To my surprise I was let go with a warning, and with that I am gratefull. It was the first time that my heart didn't start pounding when the red lights came on. With God and AA, I've got nothing to be nervous about anymore. Life is good now. I wish you a happy Thanksgiving. Got thanks? -- give thanks.


Member: Not Drinking
Location:
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 1:41:22 AM

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First one shared: "It's easier to stay sober once I decided to I wanted to change." This is true for me too. Chicken/shed reminded me of someone I used to know. He had all these coups and certain times of the day he would go to a coup and pick up a hen, deposit eggs in a basket he carried. Go to the next hen, pick her up and gather eggs. Third hen, he found a minature of whiskey. He gulped that down. Hours later, he couldn't remember which hen he picked up or which coup to go to next. ~ the progression of the disease of alcohjism: excellent reminder. Thanks.


Member: lynn l
Location: wi.
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 1:51:05 AM

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a.a. has the undefined God. I have trouble at times when I try to combine my God of the bible, into alot of the meetings I attend. the result is ino longertry to define God at meetings. I sure am amazed at how HP defines himself through others and even me when we keep him out of our personel boxs. I guess. or am starting to believe, that there is a reason Bill W. had to modify the initial teaching of the Oxford group. I think it helps to keep us sober and then hp can begin to have his way with us


Member: Rick R.
Location: Middle East
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 3:31:09 AM

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Hi, New Family. Rick R. here. Alcoholic and camel jockey writing from the Middle East. I'm a Texan--How y'all are? I'm not sure what the topic was for the week, so I'll just do my thing. This weekend (Thurs/Fri) I will pass my two-week anniversary. I feel on top of the world. My blood sugar and blood pressure are optimum. I won't be back online until my work week begins on Saturday. So, everybody (South of the Can border) have a super Thanksgiving. I have my weekend planned out and have no opportunities to drink, so I will make it through another weekend. Hallelujah!!


Member: Craig L (Dogmanor@yahoo.com)
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 11:23:17 AM

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When I drank, I always woke up considering my next drink. Was there enough left over from before I passed out, to get me through until the store opened and I could get more? When I was sick there was no question about drinking or not. It was sometime after my blood alcohol got back to a comfortable level that I would ponder how nice it would be to not be drinking, but not drinking was just another one of those fantasies I entertained when I was high. Today I woke up at 4AM, prayed, went to the gym and still showed up for work early. Iím looking forward to the adventure of another sober day and a long sober weekend. Today I remain in joyful contact with God, if I donít think too much. Thanks to people like Robert and you and the program of AA, I have a God today instead of just another empty bottle.


Member: Greg N
Location: MI
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 7:17:07 PM

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In the Thanksgiving spirit (because the topic is fairly broad this week) I'm just thankful that I'm sober today, and that I've got family and friends to support me in my sobriety tomorrow. After that...I'll work on it one day at a time. Someone from earlier in the week posted the "keep it simple" message which has become my credo. I'll get through the day to day things, without drinking, and the rest will fall into place for me. Thanks for listening and Happy Thanksgiving.


Member: JOHN
Location: MAYO IRELAND
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 10:42:22 PM

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Hi im john a very grateful recovering alcholic for 15 yrs from skid row in england to the peace and tranquility of rural ireland on a daily basis i thank God for A.A, and A.A. for God GODBLESS you all in AMERICA and enjoy a sober thanksgiving I have had many tests in my sobriety but by doing the suggested things I have remained sober My favorite saying is "IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT LAYS ON THE ROAD AHEAD ASK THE MAN COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION" GODBLESSj


Member: Sara R.
Location: Minnesota
Date: 11/27/2002
Time: 11:50:22 PM

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Hello everybody. My name is Sara and I'm an alcoholic. This is the first meeting Ive been to in months ( 2nd online meeting ever). I'm twelve years sober. I used to go to meetings several times a week and was involved in service, the whole nine yards. When I was 5 years sober my husband was killed in a car accident. We had gotten sober together. We were active in a.a. together. He was my best friend and soul mate. My sober journey began with me hanging on his coat tails. Then there was just me. I ended up pulling away from a huge network of a.a.'s. I didn't know who I was. I found myself feeling too broken and too vulnerable. And I was so angry at my HP! But I was scared too. I didn't want to go back to the way it was before sobriety. I have worked the steps to the best of my ability these past seven years. It has seemed halting and ungraceful at times. I judged myself for not having a "spiritual program" that would carry me through with more ease. I ended up feeling bad and inadequate at meetings. So, as I said, I pulled away. I think I need to come back. Like some others have alluded to here, alcohol was not my problem. It was my solution. I need the things the programm offers. I need you. I need to keep it simple. I need to live and let live. I need to take it a day at a time. Before a.a I absolutely had no design for living. Since gaining the choice to pick up " the kit of spiritual tools" instead of a drink, I feel my life moves forward. I grow, I make mistakes, I have successes. I am part of something. I have gratitude - which is good because I need gratitude like I need air. I hope that I can learn to share myself with you people again. I hope I can feel like I belong again. I have been avoiding f2f meetings with my old community. I have thought I haven't been strong enough. I am praying for the willingness. Thank you all for being there and sharing.


Member: Dennis H.
Location: Austin TX
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 12:07:25 AM

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I remember my drinking Thanksgivings well. It wasn't about the dinner or family or friends. I was grateful for the booze! Ahhh, sweet days of oblivion(of so I thought). Thank God I don't HAVE to live that way anymore. This holiday, because of the fellowship of AA and the power of God working in me, I can be grateful for all the promises that have come true in my life. All we have is today...


Member: Rita F
Location: Indiana, USA
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 6:18:50 AM

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Good Morning family!! Happy Thanksgiving! I can say thanksgiving today, because for so many years for this alcoholic it was thankstaking, and not even thanking!! I came to the rooms thinking I could buzz through the twelve steps and "pass" the course with flying colors. Think I had a problem with self will or what?! I once heard that the best plans are the ones that I am not a part of planning. That tends to be my HPs will for me and not my own ego (Easing God Out). I remember gargeling with bleach and eating toothpaste and mints so my relatives wouldn't smell the alcohol on my breath. I remember always going to the bathroom where I had Irish Rose under the sink so I could swig it and try to pretend I was normal. Thank you all for this program and for helping me Come to Believe that he is there for me. I can't. He can. I think I'll let him. The steps and you wonderful people have helped me to live another sober day! Thank you and have a peaceful day.


Member: Thomas M.
Location: S. Fla.
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 6:30:04 AM

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Thomas here gratefull to God to be sober and clean this day. Happy Thanksgiving to all from South Florida. In regards to finding and understanding a Higher Power I hope this is on subject, if not I apoligize. I was never a religious guy even though I always believed in God, I had a tough time putting my believe into action or even understanding what faith was or how it worked in our lives. I firmly believe that my lack of understanding as well as lack of action led me to relapse after my first try at sobriety back in 1987. Having returned to the program with a renewed sense of purpose some time ago, I decided to make an effort at the faith part of the program. I have become totally convinced that without faith it will NOT work. for those of you like me that have had a tough time understanding faith and a higher power, I suggest you pick up The Complete Idiots Guide to The Bible, by Jim Bell and Stan Campbell. It is inexpensive and a great guide to deciphering the meaning behind biblical stories. Having said that I have found that the book of James and the book of Peter in the Bible are right on subject in dealing with faith and humility in finding your higher power. ( they are also a couple of the shorter books in the Bible, which is nice). Have a great 24 and remember to run a little farther tommorow. Thanks for listening. Thomas


Member: Glen D.
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 11:55:03 AM

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Great topic. My life and my program are much simpler today. I don't sit and ponder questions about God's will for me. My purpose in life is to be of maximum service to God and my fellow man.The action that follows step 3 is to work the rest of the steps and live these principles one day at a time until I'm covered with dirt. As for day to day decisions, meditation or two way prayer is to be done every morning. If no intuitive thought comes in my mind then there is likely something blocking the sunlight of the spirit;possibly fear or resentment. Of course this must be taken care of with the house cleaning steps. I just don't worry about what God wants to do in my life or whats in store for me because I trust Him with my life. Simply put, Gods will for me is to live life on lifes terms and help others. God bless all of you and Happy Thanksgiving, glendean@comcast.net


Member: Andy W
Location: Ohio
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 12:56:21 PM

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Hi, I'm a drunk. I guess to become an alcoholic, you have to go to meetings (so the joke goes). I've never been to a meeting, although I propably need to go. I'm a functional binge beer drinker and I have had type II diabetes for 1 1/2 years. I still can't stop. My wife says I'm trying to kill myself. Today, I look forward to a sober Thanksgiving! Thanks for the web site.


Member: mike price
Location: michigan
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 1:44:42 PM

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Member: mike price
Location: michigan
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 1:58:09 PM

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Hi Andy, My name is Mike P,I am a alcoholic.Welcome to this meeting.I have found that for me going to meetings is the ony way I can stay sober. Interacting with other alcoholics on a daily basis has saved my life.And taught me live without the use of alcoholic. Yours in sobriety Mike P


Member: Ben M
Location: Houston
Date: 11/28/2002
Time: 7:12:45 PM

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Gratitude! 5 years ago on this day I was in jail for a PI. Got sober a couple of months later and today is sober Thanksgiving #5. Thanksgiving had always marked the beginning of 2 months of more or less constant drunkenness. Enough holidays, sick days and vacation days to skate by at work and drink all the time. But for the Grace Of God it's not that way today. Each day, I do the things that we need to do to stay sober-we can't think our way through, we must do.


Member: rob b
Location: virginia
Date: 11/29/2002
Time: 12:05:40 AM

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hi every one. i have to come to this site. i was busted for dwi on my friends 21 first birthday and i was supposed to be the sober one.That did not happen since then it has been a downwoard spiril for me .No one knows i drink all the time. I am now in ads and have to go to meets. I am happy to say made it through thanks giving with out drinking. i just wanted to share that and really think that this web site is awsome.


Member: Jane F
Location: Catskill Mountains
Date: 11/29/2002
Time: 12:49:52 AM

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Welcome rob! This is my first visit to the online meeting. I have been clean and sober for 8 years, one day at a time. I didn't know how to exist in the world sober, AA saved my life. rob, please stick with it and go to meetings. It will work, honest.


Member: Mark W.
Location: St. Louis
Date: 11/29/2002
Time: 6:57:37 AM

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Soft topic this week. No direct topic was in the first couple of posts, so I feel O.K. with what I am about to say. Went to a meeting last night. Folks from a treatment center (the bus) pulled up about the time I did. Doors were locked to our room in the church building. After searching, we found no way to get into our area, until the party that pays the rent for another group that uses the same area arrived. He found the maintenance guy, who came and opened our door. Good site better than a meeting in the hall, which was already in the plan when the door finally opened. We read part of the chapter "Into Action" in the meeting. I was still distracted and following the shares was difficult. After some time I was managing to follow what was being said. I noticed that many who spoke last evening really shared of themselves. I also noticed the attitudes that were coming across. Perhaps I was meant not to follow the shares too closely so that I would notice the overall tone of all the shares. Well, I noticed that those who have completed the intense struggle that is early sobriety all had an attitude of gratitude. Those still in this struggle, and especially those who have tried but never managed to complete the struggle did not have this attitude of gratitude. At that point I realized that, yes, I was meant to be there and participate in the meeting just the way I did. Earlier in the day I had been looking at the past, and feeling sorry for myself. this is a Mark problem, and the meeting pointed the fact out so clearly. I felt good returning home last night, and feel good this morning. I got far more out of that meeting than any of the newcomers that were there to receive the experience, strength, and hope of those of us who have been sober for a while. I am still an alcoholic, and still need those meetings. My gratitude is that AA is there for me, AND those who still suffer from this disease. Mark W. LMW007@aol.com


Member: Jeff T.
Location: Ne.
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 12:10:09 AM

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Welcome Rob! keep coming back. I got sober when i was 24 years old. Couldn`t stand to think that i could never drink again, but look at it this way just don`t drink for today just 24 hours at a time, one day at a time. Ok Sorry for the double post, but we need to welcome new people.


Member: Annie M.
Location: Catawissa, PA
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 12:16:55 AM

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Hi! I'm Annie and I'm an alcoholic. It's been way too long since my last f to f meeting, or any meeting for that matter. It helped reading Sara R.'s share. I too have been feeling disconected when I go to meetings. It's weird. I just don't feel like I fit. I know that that's an excuse that is not valid. No excuse is valid to stay away if I want to remain sober. Lord knows I've told enough sponsees that over the years. The truth is I don't feel comfortable in my own skin. I logged on here in hopes that it will help me go to a live meeting and work a fourth step. I've been around long enough to know what the solutions are. I've just not been doing it and I know the end result of not going to meetings is getting drunk. I don't want that. The thought is horrifying to me. Writing this is helping me remember how precious my sobriety is. I thank God for these cyber meetings. It allows me to feel safe. The total anonymilty of it is comforting. Thank you all for being here and letting me participate. God bless.


Member: Tired of it
Location:
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 1:56:45 AM

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The Bible,Cinderella,Snow White...all stories conjured up by people(humans)From the Crusades of the middle ages to the events in Ireland,the Middle East and Waco,Texas religious people have done horrendous things in the name of their God.I've never heard of a spiritual human that would condone or perpetrate such acts.You can keep your religion to yourself...it has no place in AA.I'm tired of hearing it !!!


Member: RAY MAC
Location: GLASGOW
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 2:44:56 PM

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your right tired of it they they probably dont study the pre-amble we are not allied? but we dont endorses or opposes so we stay open minded, if it keeps them sober for now who am i/ LOTS OF LOVE FROM SCOTLAND


Member: lj
Location:
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 6:47:46 PM

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tired of it-i am fairly new in the program, but your message reminded me of that pg in the big book where it says that we spoke of intolerance yet we were intolerant ourselves(ch4). i also can now understand that thing about the spiritual axiom in which we are disturbed by others b/c it reminds us of something we are uncomfortable with in ourselves-something good for all to ponder. very grateful to be sober, alive, and able to enjoy the holidays with my family.


Member: John M
Location: Cocoa Beach
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 9:58:09 PM

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Hi all, I originally posted this in the early sobriety section but am adding it here in search of more feedback: Hi all, I am John and I'm an alcholic. Even I've been coming to AA since July, I've yet to reach 30 days. But I am at 25 now, and I don't have a desire to drink, so I hope I'll make it this time. Pray for me. Because of my childcare situation I haven't been able to make a meeting since Wednesday. But I've been going through some emotional hell this week and I need to share and perhaps hear other people's thoughts. When I started to get sober, my relationship with my girlfriend of 2 years began to fall apart. She is a practicing alcholic who hasn't come to grips with her problems, yet. I believe she wants to, and I think she wanted me to guide her, but I wasn't capable of doing that. In fact, I withdrew from her. I was very troubled by the whole situation. Even though much of our relationship had revolved around partying, that wasn't all of it. We truly loved each other and were able to share our deepest feelings with each other, a first for both of us. But as I said, we drifted apart. On my side it was because when I was sober, I was disgusted with her drinking. On her part, I think she was afraid of the direction I was going, since she was not ready to do that yet. She kept looking for some affirmation from me that everything was going to be OK, but I couldn't give it to her. About a month ago, we finally broke up. There was no fight or anything involved. It just happened. At first, I felt as if a great weight was lifted off my shoulders and I through myself into AA in away that I didn't before. And this time it "took" for me, I'm truly going through a spiritual rebirth that amazes me. I have no desire to drink and all the desire in the world to turn my life around. On Monday morning she called me over some minor matter. And it was the first time we really talked since the breakup. And I felt all my love bubbling back the surface. And I started thinking about getting back together with her. But there was a problem, she was already dating somebody else. As a matter of fact, she started dating him within a few days of our breakup. All week, I prayed for guidance (Where in the past I would have prayed for God to just give me what I wanted). I spoke with her and e-mailed each other several times during the week. Each time her answer was she couldn't go back to me. But in every conversation and e-mail, there were also hints that she still desparately loved me. My praying led me to the conclusion, that I should not hold anything back. To get to the point, I asked her to marry me. At first she seemed overwhelmed and said she needed to think about it. But a few hours letter she answered me no in a very angry e-mail. Now I'm left in the position of accepting this. Luckily, I haven't drank over it. In fact, the thought of drinking only entered my head for a split second. If this is God's will, I have to accept it. But it is very hard, because I know she still loves me and if she followed her heart we would be back together. She says her relationship with this new guy is great, but I know rebound relationships never work. I won't pursue her anymore, but there is still a part of me that believes she'll change her mind. I'm not counting on, nor am I praying for it. The only thing I'm praying for is serenity and the strength to always do the right thing. Has anybody else had to deal with a crumbling relationship while newly sober. I'd love to hear how you dealt with it. God Bless, John


Member: Steve F
Location: MA
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 9:59:51 PM

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Hi, Steve, alcoholic, God was a huge stumbling block for me. I still am unable to give anyone a clear definition of my HP, including myself. But the calm moments I feel and the sense that everything is going to work out makes me realize that I do have faith and that it is working in my life.


Member: Cindy Rudd
Location: Ventura, CA
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 10:06:57 PM

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This is new to me so I am just going to say, I am so glad AA is at our fingertips. I was messing around and found this site. I have been sober over 2 years this time. I can't even image that life again. I work five minutes from my home. I live in a little town, about 14,000 and have two beautiful girls. I love beening sober today. Thanks Cindy


Member: Steve F
Location: Chicopee, MA
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 10:22:03 PM

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Hi All, Steve, Alcoholic, This is my first time here. I may or may not have already submitted something about an hour ago. I don't see it, so, I am trying again. Regarding my Higher Power, quite simply, I struggled with the concept for a long time. However, I kept going to meetings and stayed active and I have slowly begun to feel that everything is going to be okay and I believe that is faith in a Higher Power creeping into my life.


Member: Phil
Location: VA
Date: 11/30/2002
Time: 11:08:06 PM

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I'm Phil & I'm and Alcoholic. I don't claim to know anything about what god's will for me is. God is something far beyond anything that I can comprehend. My head may explode trying to figure that one out. How can I trust my own mind to come up with what is and isnt gods will. My experience is that god is looking out for me and all I have to do is turn to him. I can talk to god like I am talking to a person. I sometimes turn off the radio in the car and just jab away with the God of my understanding. I wake up and thank him for another day sober, thank him for my sobriety, and that him that I am alive. At night I day thanks again. I have alot more thanks today than I do help me. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Tom W.
Location: Arizona
Date: 12/1/2002
Time: 4:50:03 AM

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I have 35 glorious days right here, right now. HP, oh you better believe it. I have spent upwards of 20 years trying to get just one day sober. Trust me, Tom did not do this alone. A lifetime of uncertainty, procrastination and overwhelming dread is in my past and God willing I'm not going to live there anymore. I'm no longer obsessed with why I drank. I am following God's direction with the help of my sponsor and all of you incredible people. If I can ever give back a fraction of what has been given to me through this program and your fellowship it wouldn't even scratch the surface of my gratitude. Thank you God and A.A. for this day...