Member: Amy S.
Location: Boonton, NJ & Tampa Bay Area
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 08:11:52

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I'm an alcoholic, my name is Amy. I would like to discuss the "PROMISES", and how they have worked in your life of sobriety. I remember hearing them read the first time at a meeting. My immediate reaction was, No way, This will never happen. I'm very happy to say they did all come true. Not all at once and not all everyday. I've tried to think which is my favorite, but I find that impossible. They are are so precious to me. A new freedom, a freedom I never knew existed. To be able to remember the past and not cry over it; To be free of that horrible quilt; To know serenity; To be able to help others by sharing my ES&H; to get off the pity pot; to be able to put others first; to lose the unnamed fears of everything and everyone; to be able to handle situations that used to baffle me;and to renew my faith in GOD. Ah yes, they have all come true and for this I will be forever grateful. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: DJ
Location: NORFOLK
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 08:18:45

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ONE ALKIE FOR ANOTHER. TOPIC ENTRY OF WEEK..


Member: dj
Location:
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 08:27:02

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..........LOVE........is the missing word sorry.


Member: Mike C.
Location: OH
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 08:29:45

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Thanks Amy - good topic - the promises are coming true for me. I'm about 8 months sober and have already seen such a new freedom that I'm amazed. I sure have lost the desire to drink most days, yeah there are days when I revert to stinking thinking, but a visit with God, a talk with an AA member, or some reading from the Big Book always saves the day. My advice to newcomers, it works if you work it.


Member: John T
Location: Texas
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 08:39:51

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As a OLDTIMER i find that the promises keep comming true , as long as I work the program. The more I work it, the more I get out of it, the more Freedom from Desire and such..so Keep working the program and they will keep comming true for you too..


Member: Tammy L
Location: nc
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 08:48:24

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I think the Promises are the best part of the Big Book...i know the hope of some of them coming true kept me coming back to AA.

And guess what!!!! They do come true....if you work for them. The book says..they will if you WORK for them.

Love to all in the fellowship....


Member: Rivner
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 09:23:33

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Good Mornin’. I’m an alcoholic. My name is Rivner. What a terrific opportunity this week. The Disc. Mtng. Is calling for Promises & the Step is on Turing over will and lives … The two topics have always been pretty well hitched up for me and seem to be an important focus in my recovery. Until recently I’ve had this tenuous relationship with God. I always held back a bit from that ultimate leap of faith given up in the prayer: "…Thy Will, Not Mine…" . I had to accept that I was in fear of God; believing He might send me off on some really nasty task that I wasn’t up to. My wife’s admonition (How could God’s will for you be any worse than your own) set me up for the leap and my prayers became far less self-centered. It was pure arrogance of me to think that I was somehow out maneuvering God. Things have been better. Although I still "wince" a bit when the words come out of my mouth, I have been making a consistent effort to turn my will and life over daily and frequently. My days have gotten a lot better and evidence of the promises continues to unfold. In most respects the promises have impacted my life profoundly and I feel generally at ease. It’s the "fear of financial insecurity" that gets stuck in my soul. Although I have absolutely no evidence that God has ever let me down in this respect, I continue to stress over where the next month’s money is coming from. Being a self-employed builder means hustling up the little tide-me-over jobs in between the big ones and I get in that fear space. I don’t know why I’m hangin’ on to this one. The anxiety levels hardly seem worth it. It’s sure is a week fence in front of a nasty bull when it comes to things an alcoholic might drink over. I think I have a good handle on the "fear of people" part after learning how to set more healthful boundaries. I find it strange that I’ve got this residual fear in my relationship with God. I don’t like having this hole in my spiritual development. Maybe I’m over thinking it all. I’ve been told I can complicate the Hell out of simple things. I’m open for any "hits" y’all might have. Otherwise, I’ll just keep turnin’ it over and try not to duck under the table each time I do (KaBoom!?). It all sounds a little childish now that I reckoned it all out. Have a flat-out great day. Riv.


Member: Jennifer S
Location: WNY
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 09:49:30

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Once again, Rivner has beat me to it. I still have a fear of economic insecurity. When I first came to AA, this was probably one of the only fears that I did NOT have. Reason being... I was only 17. I had no financial responsibilities. The bills that I did accumulate, my co-dependant parents took care of. I don't quite understand why this is so hard for me to let go of... you would think I'd be eager to get rid of that weight on my shoulders. I have felt the beauty of the remainder of the promises in my life, although I do occassionally give in to self pity for a few moments.

Tammy, I too stayed in this program because of the promises. When I first got here I didn't really care about what people wanted me to do... I wanted to know what I would be getting in return. I liked what they told me. I just didn't hear the part about me having to WORK for it!! I thought it was something they would just hand to me for becoming a member. "We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves." I thought that just for joining this group... these people and God were going to run around and fix my life for me, so I could resume my old life and be happy at the same time. Hmmmm Cunning, baffling and powerful. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: lauren
Location: chesapeake bay
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 09:55:10

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Hi - I'm lauren, alcohoic. Some of us are sicker than others and I guess - i know -i'm full of it if i'm thinking those promises really (in my heart) are true for me. I am an oldtmer (3/3/80)and have found SOME to be true on SOME days and not always true or NEVER YET true. I wuold like it to be true that I do not regret the past ever or at all - but I do - frequently and often. I know that my alcoholism caused me to make very BAD CHOICES in my late teens and 20's that are irreversible no matter how sober i am ( like how well i did in school, havng a family etc) that have had lifelong effects upn my life. I love my life and owe it to AA and have made a lemon out of lemonade. But i worry at newcomers thinking they may be "doing it wrong" just because the promises are not true for them. They are lofty goals and they are true and not true for me on any given day, depending on my level of serenity.


Member: Bob G.
Location: EUGENE, OREGON.
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 10:37:35

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I'm Bob, Alcoholic. Today I know a new freedom,and I don't worry about money and I can remember the past and use it to my advantage. When I drank I'd be waking up about rite now feeling so poisened that I had to drink just to stand it in my skin, but today I don't drink and I do know a new freedom, I have a H.P. and I'm never alone. I owe so much to Bill W. and youall, and my H.P. I truely know A new freedom, Having lived the way I did and now living the way I do has given me a taste of both worlds, and A true gratatude for sobriety! what A gift! To each of you A SOBER DAY! and may god bless and keep youall this day.


Member: Bill T
Location: Easstern shore MD
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 13:28:37

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Bill T. - alcoholic. I was fifty-six, 13/14 years sober, divorced and remarried, alienated from my grown children, dead broke and working at a no good job which I hated. As I drove to work on a dreary, rainy Monday morning I was absolutly terrified in the grip of a dry drunk. A beat up old truck wormed its way into traffic immediately in front of me and in foot high block letters across the top of its cargo box I read (absolute true story!) "GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU". Coincidence, serendipity or miracle, I took heart and sure enough - years later I have been taken care of - well taken care of. In my experience the promises work when we BELIEVE they will work and when we work at making them work. This, of course, involves not drinking and going to meetings, working the steps and following instructions. Easy? Certainly not, but possible. Keep the faith!


Member: BRIAN H.
Location: RAPID CITY S.D.
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 16:23:09

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HI I'M BRIAN,ALCOHOLIC, I was 24 yrs. old ,a convicted felon doing time and a complete and total failure in life when I got here,no direction, no hope nothing, anything that anybody might have seen in me worthwhile was just that lttle boy whistling in dark.bacause of my head first leap into drunkeness I didn't even complete the 8th grade. All the strikes were against me ever having a real life in this world.But I was also ready for this way of life, I accepted deep down that I'm a real acoholic, just a loser, a loser with a fighting chance so the BB told me and I dared to BELIEVE. Today I have a different life and a different perspective on what life does hold in store for me. I own a nice house,kool car(mustang), been employed at a good job for last 9 yrs.,regained the trust of my family and friends, have a faith in power greater than myself which is personal and intimate and travel the world just for kicks and tomorow(Nov.9) I celerbrate 8 yrs. of soberity.Hmm..... now what was this weeks topic??......cya.....BRIAN.


Member: rob k.
Location: binghamton, ny
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 16:44:44

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i'm rob alcoholic. the promise seem to come true whenever i am working with another alcoholic and going to meetings and keeping the concious contact wit the higher power. Jenifer from western ny i have a friend that goes to the friday silver lake meeting and i recently went to the hamburg meeting on saturday i meet someone named jenifer r u her? let me know


Member: Charles V.
Location: Oklahoma (panhandle)
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 17:36:41

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The word painstaking always hits me when I hear the promises. If I endure the pain of whatever circumstance I will build perserverance in myself and become stronger as long as I trust in GOD and let him take of the problem . I will become stronger and know how to handle situations which used to baffle me.


Member: Pat R
Location: NYC
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 18:38:53

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I really have to say in all honesty I did not get the promises all I got was misery and sobriety. If anyone knows me you know what I got from being sober had better days drinking honestly but just couldn';t do it anymore thought I was losing my mind.


Member: Randy S.
Location: Manvel, Texas
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 18:39:02

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Hi, everyone, I'm Randy S., and I'm a drunk. It has proven to be like the old adage, "Ifn you're gonna pray for rain, you might oughta bring an umbrella." Yes, yes, yes, the promises do come true. All of them. And the work we must do on a daily basis is not all that difficult. Not when we look at it honestly. I was told almost seven years ago that if I did a fraction of the work I did before to stay drunk, I would remain sober. But only sober from day to day. Gotta keep on keepin' on. And I, too, have fears today. But so do all human beings. My wife is not an alcoholic and she leaves the house each and every morning with certain fears. I don't know that there's anything wrong with that. The Big Book says that I will fall short. . . that I will stumble and fall. . . But as long as I'm trying my very best, it is going to be all right. Like Rivner said, I too have no problem at all with thanking God for all of the wonderful blessings He has bestowed upon me. Still, however, there is a bit of trepidation when I must force the words, "Thy will, not mine," from my clenched lips. I own a small company, and I must plan things for the future. If I do not, I'm going to bump into many brick walls. I believe that my "lack of faith" at times might not be that at all. Not pertaining to God anyway. I'm only seven. Maybe that is merely a "lack of faith" in my own decision making ability. Afterall, a first grader will always have a great deal of trouble doing a twelfth grader's tasks. Sometimes growing up in public is tough. I tend to second guess everything that I do. Maybe that is true faith.Is a true test of faith when everything is allright, or when things are kinda shaky? I've been in business for 5 years, and I think that my business reputation has grown. If I can be known for an honest job, and help wherever I can, then the rest has just fallen into place. Like I said, I must plan. With success comes responsibility. If I am hungry I can't go hide in the bathroom and expect God to shoot a chili-dog through the keyhole. He guides me and gives me the ability to do something, and I must get up off of my butt and go to it. A true gauge of the promises is that today all of my little failures and mistakes along the way have not caused me to give up. When I open my eyes in the morning, God has giving me a gift--that swirling stucco pattern on my ceiling. That's the first thing I see each day. I must work to give something back to God. He is not Santa Claus. I work. He watches and lends a hand when needed. But only when needed. I believe that He wants me to give it try. . . or two. . . So, of course there is some fear in and around there. But, one last thing, I do not believe at all anymore that God has brought me along this far just to drop me on my head. My sponsor was against the idea of me starting a business with only 2 years under my belt. But he did give me some advice. He said for me to try and keep some options open. To prepare myself for success. If I did it was sure to come.


Member: Max G.
Location: Murphy, NC
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 21:07:28

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My name is Max and I am an alcoholic. By the grace of God I am sober today. I have to remember that the principle behind the third step is faith. If I put trust in God that he will take care of me, no matter what, then these promises work in my life. However, like most of drunks, I am human and have an inate desire to run my life as I see fit. When I found that alcohol no longer worked for me, I had to make a decision to find another way to live. Boy am I glad I found these rooms! Without the guidance and faith I found here, I would be lost. I have found that I have to make this decison everyday of my life and go forward with the next nine steps on a regular basis if I am to progress in this program. Like GE likes to say "Progress is our most important product. Happy Anniversary Brian and many more One Day At A Time. Love to All Max


Member: John W.
Location: Laconia, IN
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 21:48:08

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Hi, I'm John Williams and I'm an alcoholic. First time I've been to an "online meeting". My hours recently changed for the worst and I have a hard time getting to regular meetings. I heard about you guys from an A.A. speaker at a Convention. So, an "online" meeting is better then no meeting, the way I see it. The "Promises" is a great topic. I'm sober 13 years now they've all come true, at one time or another.

I heard a fantastic speaker at an A.A. convention this weekend in Jasper, IN. He is an American Indian named Don C. and he talked about the different seasons, BOTH IN LIFE, AND IN SOBRIETY. Sobriety has "winters". We will all go through "dark" times, times to reflect, to gauge our sobriety and our "progress". I believe, as distasteful a concept as it is, that we grow through pain. That it is always darkest before dawn. That our darkest hour is our best hour. By continuing to work the steps, and by "work the steps", I mean just that. At the minimum, an annual written inventory, a new fifth step, another sixth and seventh and eighth and ninth. And a new commitment, if you will, to the 10th, 11th, and 12th. By keeping a "clean slate', we keep our channels open to God's will, which, of course, is for us to be Happy, Joyous, & Free. Remember, that when those dark times come, its not because of anything you did or didn't do, but an opportunity to grow, to become more spiritual by growing closer to your Creator and becoming a better person and servant. The Promises are wonderful but try not to base your program on how well they are coming true. As a byproduct of doing what we are suppose to do in this program, they are PROMISED. Continued sobriety to all you guys. I love you. John W.


Member: Christine M.
Location: Bayville, NJ
Date: 08 Nov 1998
Time: 23:23:42

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Is there a better topic? I think not. My all time favorite topic. I am Christine, an alcoholic, and as a newcomer, I heard the promises read at a meeting and was brought to tears because I knew that they would not happen for me. That was over NINE years ago now and I can remember being a year or so sober and realizing that not only could they happen for me that they were! The new freedom came from just putting down the booze, no more arrests, no more waking up from a blackout in jail, the freedom to go new places, try new things, without the paralyzing fear that I used to cover up with booze and indifference (didn't want to go there do that anyways....cuz I couldn't cuz I was afraid so I pretended not to want....) Took a while to not regret the past nor wish to to shut the door on it but working those steps sure helps. By changing the person that I brought in here I found that I don't make as many bad decisions and don't have to regret them. I HAVE come to KNOW peace and serenity and it is NOT all the time but more often than not. For those of you who are new DON'T LEAVE BEFORE THE MIRACLE HAPPENS IN YOUR LIFE AND THOSE PROMISES START TO COME TRUE FOR YOU. For me the promises are a result of changing myself through the 12 steps. The promises say nothing about education and I know as a person who dropped out of three different high schools, finally got my GED and started college as a 27 year old freshman and continue to take a class when I can towards a degree I may never get that NOTHING is out of my reach if I want it and decisions that I made as a teenager or young adult do not have to affect me negatively for the rest of my life. God bless, all.

Love and Peace,

Christine M.


Member: Craig K < craig4d@earthlink.net >
Location: Arizona
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 03:00:00

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Hi all, Craig here, grateful recovering alcoholic.

I don't recall the first time I heard or read "The Promises." Perhaps I discounted the ideas as being something beyond my ability to attain. I recall finally "hearing" The Promises about two months into sobriety and they did give me hope. When I looked around the rooms and saw the smiling faces and heard some of the "way it was" stories, I knew there was a chance for me. The Promises gave me the courage to keep coming back.

Since then I have been very lucky (blessed?) to have meet and be taught by some caring and loving "mentors" who have helped me pick up the tools we have available through A.A. I have found a loving and understanding God. I have tasted the thrill of being able to help suffering alcoholics discover this program.

By turning my life and my will over to God, as I understand Him, I too have been blessed with The Promises. Not all at once and not all the time. When I accept His will and do my best to do the footwork is when The Promises come about.

I suppose my understanding is the promises are something like Easter Eggs along the paths of life. As long as we are on the right path, the promises are there to be discovered on our journey.

When there are no Easter Eggs on the path, it's time to get back to the basics and find the right path again.

I'm very grateful to have this forum. I too have had some changes at work and it is less 'convenient' to attend meetings. This is a welcome substitute. Keep coming back. This drunk needs to hear what you all have to say. God now works his miracles through you all since he got out of the burning bush business a few years back. Burning Bushes now require permits in California and twelve other states.

love you all,

Craig


Member: Steve H.
Location: Columbus, OH
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 07:37:44

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Hi everyone, I'm an alcoholic named Steve. The promises are definately coming true in my life today. I never could have imagined how beautiful life could be 3 years ago. If I would have made a list of what I wanted to get out of the program I would have sold myself way short. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves about sums it up 4 me!!! If you are new, or have doubts about this program working, please hang around long enough for the miracle to happen. It's a good day to be sober!!! I pass.


Member: toddf
Location: so cal
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 08:52:17

Comments

hello my name is todd and i am an alcoholic todd f


Member: Haydn G
Location: Melbourne Australia
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 08:56:17

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The 12 promises are part of the spiritual progress and the promises will not always be 100% perfectly staying with us. It depends on how much I am willing to let my will go, so that I can change things I can, that is my attitude, and let the rest into the high power's hands. The crux of serenity and sobriety is letting go when God asks us. When I let go then the promises come to me. The strange thing is that I take a lot of encouragement from God before I let go. However, I am human and I guess the process of letting go is how I get some wisdom and serenity. Thanks for sharing


Member: Pat P
Location: CT
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 09:04:22

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Hi, my name is Pat, and I'm an alcoholic.

I'm very grateful for the topic today, too. I needed a reminder of how much my life has improved, inside my head. The stinkin thinkin still tries its best to get ahold of my soul, but with the working of the program comes the realization of the promises. My former sponsor moved acrosst the country, but happily is on line so that we can still communicate for "free". I have a new sponsor who I am still getting to know, and that is part of my path as well. I am so hearted to feel again the good that can come from being a member of the AA fellowship, IF I WORK MY PROGRAM! Thanks again for being here, each of you who share and read these entries! :-)


Member: JerryC
Location: Colorado
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 09:25:43

Comments

I'm Jerry and I'm a drunk. First time here and about 12 hours since my last drink. The promise that I must make is to stay sober. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Carol L.
Location: Canada
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 11:04:25

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Hi. I'm Carol,alcoholic. Just got my computer about a month ago and still trying to figure things out. I have been very ill physically the past two years and sometimes have a hard time getting out to my meetings. I am so grateful to all you people who send your comments to these meetings, it's been helping me feel a little more connected than I have been the past little while. As for the promises, the past few years"you will know a new freedom and a new happiness" has really been sinking in. Aside from my drinking, my biggest problem was myself. By doing the work in the steps I have finally come to accept myself. All my life, I didn"t measure up, was never good enough, even for years in my recovery, I wasn"t doing it right, should be better by now. My perfectionism is one of my biggest defects of character, but with TIME, the grace of God, meetings, working the steps and being given the gift of people who loved me when I couldn't love myself, I can finally say from the bottom of my heart,"I'm a pretty good person". That is one of my biggest freedoms. I don't hate myself anymore and don't have to be perfect. For me that is a MIRACLE. Thanks to everyone for being here. Love, Carol


Member: Robert B.
Location: Boise Id
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 11:40:00

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Hi. I'm Robert, an alcoholic. When I was new the promise that stood out fr me was not in that group usually refferred to as "The Promises". It was a promise so important and so alluring that they named a whole chapter with that promise--There Is A Solution. The Big Book offers this promise to all of us. For the newcomer: There is Hope; There is a Solution; There is Unqualified Love in recovery through Alcoholics Anonymous. The Promise that has made itself most apparent in my life this past year is that we will be able to meet calamity with serenity. This has been the most calamitous year in my recovery, yet I have not had to drink, blame, or rage over the dificulties that have arisen, and God is taking care of each one, some swiftly, some slowly. Love and Light Robert


Member: Jimmy S.
Location: Benton,AR
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 11:51:01

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Hi, I'm an alcoholic, my name is Jimmy. I am celebrating my third year in sobriety. Yes the promises keep coming true so long as you always remember what you are where you came from and where you are today. Always live in the now because we never know if there's going to be a tomorrow or even an hour from now. Lives are being taken every second of every hour and I don't know when my hour will be up that's why I live in the now. Since becoming a member of Alcoholics Anonymous I've found new love. I love Jimmy for who he is and the life God has given me. The twelve steps of alcoholics anonymous has given me the guidence I needed to live again. I now know a life I never dreamed possible. Sure I had fantasy lives but to be as happy as I am today with a family I almost lost is a miricle. Thanks for lettinig me share.


Member: Lauretta
Location: Frederick,M
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 12:28:14

Comments

Hi I'm Lauretta - today I believe I am coming to the awareness that I have a serious drinking problem. Reading all these comments is helping me understand more why I am feeling this enslavement. I have a decent life with kids and family who love me yet I continue to do stupid things with alcohol. I yearn for the promises today. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Lauretta
Location: Frederick,Md
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 12:28:31

Comments

Hi I'm Lauretta - today I believe I am coming to the awareness that I have a serious drinking problem. Reading all these comments is helping me understand more why I am feeling this enslavement. I have a decent life with kids and family who love me yet I continue to do stupid things with alcohol. I yearn for the promises today. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: tony g
Location: ma
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 12:36:33

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my name is tony ,i"m an alcoholic.sometimes when things are going very good i second guess the fact,am i really an alcoholic?Yes! i have to go to meetings to remember through others things or feelings i may have forgotten for the moment.my life is alcohol free today,its tough sometimes,very tough when i have alot of anxieties i use them to measure my distance from God,my higher power,my life and quality of life is improving showingfeelings and loving people,doing things that will help others maybe not have to go thruogh stuff that i had to.i like what someone said about growing through pain and dark periods,if you dont give in to picking up you can break thruogh tothe other side the peace and joyous side.i havn"t heard the promices in a while but i don"t have to hear them to know that they do come true.the trick forme is patience. thanks


Member: Lisa A
Location: SD
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 13:27:06

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Hi my name is Lisa and I'm an alcohlic. Greatful today for the grace of God and the fellowship of AA. The promises do come true and have come true for me.When I first started reading these letters I was a little Discouraged becasue the alcoholic in me said oh no I am not doing THAT well what can I do today. Prompted me to work a little remember the things that I used to do and let go of a little of my perfectionism. Today I have the promises in my life . The fears creep in when I get out of the day and forget that GOD as I understand him is an awesome GOD and has all control and power. He only wants good in my life. To be willing to be able to accept his love and grace is the greatest miracle in my life. From there the rest becomes a desire for me. I love you all. I have waited in many dark times in sobriety but they have not been nearly or even close to being as dark as the times before I entered the doors of a treatment center years ago. GOD's grace to you all...Keep it simple. STick around until the miracle happens..I did , I am , I hope to again


Member: Kathy F
Location: Carlisle, IA
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 13:48:52

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Thanks Amy - great topic... Hi my name is Kathy and I am an alcoholi and a drug addict. I never believed promises growing up. I was always told that I'd get to do something and they'd say they promise and I wouldn't get nothing. As I starting practising this disease I would never keep a promise. I tell my friends that I wouldn't drink so I could drive them all home and I'd get drunk and leave them with no safe ride. I lost a lot of friends from breaking promises. When I came into the program and I heard the promises I thought "oh great, something else to get my hopes up and bring me down" So I didn't believe them... I did keep going to meetings and working the program. Then a year or two later I went to meeting and they read the promises and I realized that they had started to come true without really realizing it. It was then that I looked over my life since starting the meetings and I saw how my life had improved so much. I wasn't even them same person any more. And, I liked who I had become. I now believe in the promises and can't wait to find what else comes true for me. Thanks Kathy F


Member: Chrystal O.
Location: Ottertail,MN
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 15:57:12

Comments

Hi, My name is Chrystal and I'm an alcoholic. I'm still pretty new to AA,I've been sober for 7 months. I thank God for AA and all the support I've found in the group. I feel that promises are very important ikn this world and I'm thankful for it.


Member: Suzie D.
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 16:19:48

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Hi, I'm Suzie and I am an AA, with a soberity date of 12/22/76. Very grateful to be sober today. The promises are a fact of life for me. I find however, that fear works the same as faith. If I fear something it usually come true and does if I trust God. I wold love to say that I know it all because you guys have kept me coming back for recovery. Recovery is progress, thank God. Very slow to learn, having a high tolerence for pain. Getting back to the promises, I recall the first time that God did for me what I cannot do for myself. A situation where "I intutively knew how to handle a situation that use to baffel me. A 15 year old son come out of the woodwork for my husband that after 10 years of marriage I knew nothing about! I was putting cornbread in the over when my husband gave me the news and I went to another room and got on my knees and said "God, this one is too big for me, your will not mine." Well, that has been 15 years ago and my stepson is a blessing to me and our two daughters. He is wonderful. Only in soberity would that be possible. I am grateful to God and I stay sober one day at the time, still. Life on life terms is tough but, thank God we have each other and this wonderful set of spritual principles at our feet. Pick them up and go forward. God bless you all and thank you for being here for me.


Member: Chris H.
Location: Colorado
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 17:50:39

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Hi, I'm Chris, 15 years and counting, a day at a time. Hum, the promises are truly intriguing. Well Rivner, you nailed it for me. Like Jennifer S. when I got here, I was so immune to self torture that a fear like insecurity over financial stuff seemed ridiculous. At that point, death was my big thought, something so seemingly trivial and normal never crossed my conscious mind. Well, now it does, and letting go of that one is tough, matter of fact, I think the fear of financial insecurity is my big hitter. But, reading the book and doing the steps takes me to the root, because, I have a tendency to project about fears, and act out of my insecurities or character defects as a defense, or more appropriately I still live in denial, and the steps clear the clutter. ...I guess denial is the root of my disease when I loose faith. I seem to do this program in cycles. Always grateful, but sometimes reluctant. I go out self willing, get my butt kicked, and come back willing. Almost sounds like a drunk huh! Well, I keep coming back. The things that I have gotten by doing steps and sharing in the fellowship are for me unbelievable. Unbelievable, because I would have never dreamed I could have or deserve any of them, and unbelievable, because god has provided for me things I needed that my arrogant self will would have never sought. Thanks for the chance to share. Cyber-meetings, what will they think of next, holograph meetings! Thanks!


Member: Paul M.
Location: Santa Rosa, Ca.
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 17:54:34

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Hi my name is Paul and I am a recovering alcoholic. Great topic Amy. Next month I will have a year in AA and in that time I could not ever have dreamed that so many things positive would happen in my life. I spent 20+ years trying to find "it" through the use of alcohol and drugs and I never found what I was looking for. It took me until I was about three months sober to realize the "it" that I had been looking for all those years was staring back at me through the mirror. I started to like myself again. I started to not have the constant guilt and shame that surrounds someone that cannot stop. I would not trade the feelings I have now for anything. I know in my heart that if I stay on this path and do what is suggested and follow my sponsors advice on going to meetings and getting service commitments I will not have to look any farther for "it" anymore. It will always be inside me because my God will always be walking with me. Thanks to all of you for sharing and have a great week. Paul


Member: Kari.F
Location:
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 21:52:28

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Hi, my name is Kari and I am a alcoholic. I just celebrated six months of sobriety, in some ways it seems like six years. The promises do work if we work them. I am not saying that it is easy, it's not and some days are easier than others. I am just glad I haven't given up when things got tough. The one day at a time is my salvation. This is my first time on the internet also, I am glad that I found you. I wanted to ggo to a meeting tonight but did not get out of work in time and so reading everyones story was good. Thanks to all for being here.


Member: Kari.F
Location:
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 21:52:47

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Hi, my name is Kari and I am a alcoholic. I just celebrated six months of sobriety, in some ways it seems like six years. The promises do work if we work them. I am not saying that it is easy, it's not and some days are easier than others. I am just glad I haven't given up when things got tough. The one day at a time is my salvation. This is my first time on the internet also, I am glad that I found you. I wanted to ggo to a meeting tonight but did not get out of work in time and so reading everyones story was good. Thanks to all for being here.


Member: Willi 4-Tribes
Location: back woods Georgia
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 22:33:46

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Hi, I'm Willi, an alcoholic in recovery. When I first came to the program I thought they wasted so much time reading all THOSE THINGS; like "How it Works", the Promises and the Preamble. I just wanted them to "get on with it". Well, after a few weeks I learned to love "how it Works", but especially loved and felt the Promises were like a Prayer. If I was discouraged, I'd read the Promises. If I was happy, I'd read the Promises to remind myself how they were coming true. Once I started chairing meetings, I'd read the Promises or refer to them, I felt that since they were so important to me and did so much for me; that if I could help just one person be able to hold on to them, that I'd be passing on my expierence, strength and hope. The Promises do come true; over and over again as time goes by and we have one more day of Sobriety. The Promises re-new themselves and never become boring or stale; when we stay for more Miracles, they truely do happen. Thanks for letting me share- love to all!


Member: Jo Ann B.
Location: Texas
Date: 09 Nov 1998
Time: 22:39:36

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I'm Jo Ann, an alcoholic. A very good topic. I came to AA to stop drinking - that is all I expected, and if that is all I had gotten it would have been wonderful just to be free from drinking- my life revolved around drinking. I was either thinking about it, trying not to think about it, doing it, hungover, making promises mainly to myself that I wouldn't drink anymore, and finally realizing I could not give it up on my own. I never drank again after my first visit to AA. I did, to the best of my ability what they told me to do - went to mtgs., STUDIED the BB, got a sponsor and worked on the steps - CONSTANTLY. The miracle happened for me before I knew it - gradually - I almost had to look back to realize the promises had/were happened/happening - it's and ongoing process - forward, back a little, up, down a little - sometimes I am so totally and completely happy that I feel guilty, because I know there are so many people suffering untold misery- oh, if only they would work these steps whether they are alky or no! But, it takes a great incentive like active alcoholism to commit to and live this program of miracles. Sometimes I still get into fear over finances - I guess because I know I have to have money for food, clothing, shelter, etc. Bill W. did advise us to be prudent - live one day at a time, but having prudent concern for our futures and those of our loved ones, especially those who are dependent on us. Always, it seems to get back to "balance" in all aspects. I have to remind myself that I am dealing out there in the world with a lot of people who are not trying to live by these principles all the time, some of them not any of the time, therefore, it is easy for me to get off the AA beam - as soon as I get back on the beam, I seem to have the promises. Sometimes I feel sorry for people who are not alcoholics, cause they don't have this wonderful "thing". And that's the honest truth, newcomers! We are all so fortunate to have AA and it's all free! Talk about freedom! Love to you all.


Member: Katie H
Location: Atlanta, GA
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 01:11:07

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Hi, I'm Katie, and an alcoholic. It took me a few meetings to hear the Promises and How It Works, and now, I see that they are just chop full of wonderful things. Each sentence is another guide to live by. I am just coming back, and I feel this whole new outlook upon life. And I also see how my outlook upon life can improve. I am just now taking my first baby steps, and I am thrilled at the prospect of these promises coming true for me as they have for many other recovering alcholics. I think the most important part of the Promises are the last two sentences: "They are being fulfilled among us-SOMETIMES QUICKLY, SOMETIMES SLOWLY. They will always materialize IF WE WORK for them. I know I didn't work my program to the fullest (half measures availed us nothing), but now I desperately want what others have and I am willing to work for them and have faith that one day I will listen to the promises being read and realize, wow, it happened. But I do agree with what some people have said, the promises are not going to come true all the time every day. They are dependant on your current contact with your higher power and program. I just want to emphasize patience and working the steps, and faith in my higher power will allow the promises to surface into my life.

Thank you for letting me share and for the others who shared before me. Also, thank you for having this online service, its great to be able to access a meeeting at any time.


Member: richard m
Location: sarasota .fl
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 07:04:03

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hello, my name is richard. i am an alcoholic...thanks for the topic... that old big book sure has a lot of good stuff in it for this ol.alcoholic. the promise do come true one day at a time... especially that part about "intuitivley able to handle situations which used to bafffle us" ....remember do not drink and goto meetings!!!!!!!!


Member: Martina G
Location:
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 08:01:58

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Good morning, I'm Martina an alcoholic sober one day at a time for 13 years.

The promises do come true to the extent that you commit yourself to your sobriety. However,I think they are much more SUBTLE than what we alcoholics are used to. We like the RUSH of the quick high and are accustomed to immediate gratification. If you have just become sober, the promises are real, but there are no quick or easy methods by which to achieve them. They are like a sudden, unexpected cool breeze at the end of a long, hot, weary day. The greatest thing about sobriety is that, though the breeze was there all the time, one day you will notice it for the first time. You will experience it, feel it on your skin and you will feel tremendous gratitute and joy. Focus your eyes on today. Believe those who have been there and are now reaping some reward for the waiting. A day at a time, put one foot in front of the other and work your program as if your life depends on it, because it actually does. The miracle will happen.


Member: JimC
Location:
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 10:43:33

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Hi! I'm trying to get into AA. Very nervous about it, but I think it's the only way to stop the wasting-away. Please allow me just to make this first step.

I'm an alcoholic, and I know it. I guess I better start pounding that in. Went to a few meetings in '85, so I know what AA is about. The experience was good. I want to start going again, for good, but I'm real nervous about it. What if I see someone I know? And why am I so ashamed? How do I get past this obstacle?


Member: Chris H.
Location: Colorado
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 12:08:47

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Just yesterday I was reflecting on the fact that sometimes people ketch less flack from normies when they stagger into a liquor store, buy booze, go to a football game, and throw up in their cup; verses when they go to a meeting and get help from other recovering alcoholics. For me that thought just indicates a double standard in society, and I now think that whole situation is a joke! It takes courage to tackle a problem of this magnitude, but all we have to have is the willingness. I'm glad it's that simple.

In Chapter 5 of the BB there are words like, "demands rigorous honesty," and if we're willing to go to any length to get there, usually means we start with honesty about our problem. It seems clear there is a real issue with honesty out there in the world, need I crack tasteless jokes to make my point..., so having the honesty to say, "I'm an alcoholic" is something to be grateful for, not everyone can do it. The program just takes honesty, open mindedness, and willingness, and that's something to value. The result are the promises, and these are truly miracles. Thanks for the chance to share, cheers to you all, a day at a time!


Member: Mike W.
Location: New Hampshire
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 12:36:36

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When I came to AA booze had kicked the snot outa me. I suffered greatly from the doom and gloom of every day life. I was a breeding ground for kaos, confusion, broken promises and resentment. I was told that this program came with promises and that if I, 1. didn't drink 2. went to meetings 3. ask for help, they would come true for me. I could see that they had come true for others at the first few meetings I went to. I could also see within these people that thier life once stunk as bad as mine, if not worse! Other fatal illnesses hardly ever come with promises, we are fortunate. For the suffering alcholic out there; no matter how low you have gone, you never have to go any lower, you never have to sober up again. The promises have come true for me in many, many ways. I give thanks for what I have been given. A grateful heart never drank.

To Jim C. welcome. Do not worry about who sees you at a meeting. If you feel more at ease go 20 miles away to a meeting. Try not to compare your self with others at meeting, identify your story with thiers, that you are alcoholic and no one person (including yourself) could stop you from drinking, this is what makes us all the same. Remember you are not a bad person trying to get good, you are a sick person trying to get well.

Mike W.


Member: Khara W.
Location: Nebraska
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 13:54:36

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I'm an alcoholic, my name is Khara. I'm snowed in today and enjoying it because I am online with you all.I read alot of really powerful messages and want to express my gratitude to everyone, thanx so much. :) Lauren- chesapeake bay... I to see the reflections of past unhealthy choices, breaks my heart at times, but AA and you people are teaching me to deal with it in a good way. Hang in!! Randy S.- your spirituality is an inspiration!! John W. I have some Don C. cassettes on working the steps for Native American people, Absolutely awesome. Jerry C.- congratulations on your new beginning! He who seeks God has already found Him, that's what the old timers taught me, they were right of course. Welcome: Lauretta from Frederick, MD. Jim C.- Feal the fear & do it anyway, you wont regret your AA journey. I have been struggling with emotional sobriety issues. I had not reflected on the "Promises" for a while. I am so glad for this reminder. I am new to online meetings although sober for 8 years. This is very special to me, yet I have been sober long enough to know that this should never, ever, take the place of active attendance at meetings, reaching my hand out to the newcomer, and freely giving of what I have received. Thanx again. May we journey in God's Grace as we trudge the road of happy destiny. :)Khara


Member: don m                    
Location: ny
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 14:09:01

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i am here because there is no refuge finally from myself. untill i confront myself in the eyes and hearts of others i am running. afraid to be known i can know neither myself nor any other. i will be alone. where else but in our common ground can i find such a mirror? here together i can at last appear clearly to myself. not as the giant of my dreams nor the dwarf of my fears but as a person part of a whole with my share in it's purpose. in this ground i can take root and grow. not alone anymore as in death. but alive to myself and to others.


Member: Gina D.
Location: Huntsville, AL
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 14:55:49

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My name is Gina, I am an alcoholic. When I came in to AA, the first time I heard the Promises I thought them impossible in my lifetime. Yet over the past 2 years they have started coming true. The more I work the steps and trust in God, the more evident they become. When I heard "we will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it", I thought, Yeah right! I had so much guilt and shame about the things I had done I just wanted to slam the door shut and wipe it all out. But now I firmly believe, that which does'nt kill us makes us stronger. If I forget the past I'm likely doomed to repeat it. I have to accept my past, learn from it and move on. I know God forgives me, so I must forgive myself. The promises will come true but only if we work for them. Thanks for letting me share. Gina


Member: Clint J
Location: Turkey
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 15:26:24

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Hello, My name is Clint and I am a 22 year old alcoholic. I'm in the Air Force stationed overseas in Turkey. I have been having a tough time with alcohol since I graduated from high school. I would go to a A.A meeting but there are none here. This is all I got. I find it amazing there are so many people out on the internet like me. I wish I could quit but longest I ever went without a drink in the last two years has been three weeks and that was trying my damndest. clintjanofski@hotmail.com


Member: Anna G.
Location: San Diego
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 15:29:40

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Hi my name is Anna, I am an alcoholic. The promises are my absolute favorite!! It took me a long time to get this program and I remember hearing the promises and wishing that maybe if only one would come true it would be worth it. At the time it seemed inconcievable. Now that I have a couple years and have done a lot of hard work, every single one has come true! I don't understand why this program works the way it does, but I understand that it does work!!! The promises gave me hope that maybe someday my life could become something different than it was.


Member: Three Crows
Location: VA
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 15:34:13

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Hi, I'm Jim and I too am an alcoholic. The promises come true for us "if we work for them." That means we only get the good stuff if we do the Steps. See step 11, "having had a spiritual awakening as a result of the steps". Without the awakening (the common solution) alcohol continues to defeat us (the common problem). It is only by utilizing the steps (common solution) that we break the bonds of slavery and step into the light.

Then, and only then, do the promises really begin to come true. Get a big bookie sponsor. Tell her/him you want to work the steps (half measures availed us nothing) and get busy doing the grunt work that none of us want to do, but must if we are to save ourselves

Love,


Member: Chris G.
Location: San Jouquin Valley, CA
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 15:46:44

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My name is Chris and I am an alcoholic. I just found this site and am glad that I did. I started coming to the program almost a year ago and have never got more than 14 days really sober since. I lied at my meetings and almost got my 30 day chip before my conscious got to me. I have the desire to stop drinking and want to stop because of health reasons, but I do not know God and I keep refusing to let him back into my life. I condemned Him long ago. I also find it funny that even though I condemnded Him long ago, it is still in my mind that I have to Capitalize His name whenever I talk or type of Him. I knew a God, but I blamed Him for all that happened to me when I was young. I hated Him and now I know that He will forgive me for all that I have done, but I really like to drink and my attitude is really bad, so I don't care. Those last 3 words have been my whole life for the last 21 years. So if I don't care, why am I here? I have a desire to quit drinking and since God has not granted my wishes of dying, I have found that I really don't want to die. I just want to be normal. I am far from that. Anyway, I am at work and lunch is almost over so I need to go. I am glad that I looked for this site. I want to stop drinking and taking all that I have for granted. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Donna Z.
Location: Seminole, FL
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 16:19:07

Comments

Hi evryone, I'm Donna, an alcoholic. Jim C., you don't have to try to get into AA. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. If you run into someone you know ask yourself what they are doing at an AA meeting. Same as you, trying to get and stay sober!


Member: Jennifer S
Location: WNY
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 16:33:11

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CHRIS What exactly is normal? I've never known. If you have a problem with the God you once knew... get a new one!! You can use mine, let me tell you about him... He's cool... we laugh together, cry together, He comforts me when I am down, encourages me all the time... he does not punish, or even get dissapointed... he knows I'm only human. When I pray, it's like talking to a friend. I use slang terms... I don't make sense... I even swear if I feel the urge. There's no reason for me to be formal... maybe I can hide my "rough around the edges" personality from other humans... but I can't hide it from him, so why try? My prayers usually start out something like this "Hey Big Guy.... how's your day goin? Thanks for keeping me out of trouble... " and so on. Borrow my God if he sounds cool, I don't mind sharing! I'll believe for you... you just say the words. Keep saying them till you believe.

Sorry to double post. I struggled with this, and said nearly the exact same words.


Member: Larry M.
Location: Virginia Beach
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 16:40:30

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Larry, alcoholic

When I first came into AA, the promises seemed far-fetched and unattainable. I didn't believe people who said the promises had come true in their lives - figured they were BS-ing. Fortunately, I wasn't there for the promises; my sights were set much lower: I just wanted to stop drinking. And I did stop drinking, was grateful for that, decided that was all the AA I needed, and moved on to continue running my life my way, just without the alcohol.

It was a few years before I realized that I NEEDED the promises in my life, that life without serenity and freedom from fear was barely tolerable. So I came back into AA and really started working the program.

I can't say that the promises have all come true for me, but I have all of them some of the time and some of them all of the time. I don't know if I'll ever have all of them all of the time, but perhaps perfection is too much to ask. I have a new outlook on life and I know peace. My life is much more livable than it ever was and for that I am grateful.

Thanks for letting me share.

Peace & Serenity


Member: BUTCH S.
Location: MS.
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 17:03:32

Comments

Hi PAGE 552 BIG BOOK.


Member: Bruce A.
Location: Bovard,PA
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 17:16:13

Comments

Thanks for the topic Amy. All of the promises are coming true for me as long as I work the program of A.A. I have been sober over 15 yrs. and I have seen the promises come true in many people's lives. I was at an A.A. conf, a few years ago when I heard a fellow named Frank recite the promises. At the time Frank was dieing from cancer. He said all the promises were being fullfilled in his life. Frank passed away 2 months after this. What an inspiration. all of these promises will materlize if we work


Member: Chris H.
Location: Colorado
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 18:04:30

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Jennifer S., cool. Thanks!


Member: Tim W.
Location: Ohio
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 18:38:27

Comments

My name is Tim and I am an alcoholic. Thanks for this internet site and the comments. I know that this can't replace going to meetings but it sure is handy when I need to remember what I am and what I need to do to stay sober. What a blessing. Thanks again and I love you all.


Member: Rafael H.
Location: Valencia-Venezuela
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 19:31:28

Comments

Hi,my name is Rafael and i'm an alcoholic that thanks to my Superior Power I have been able to avoid drinking for a little bit more than 6 years. I agree with what its said about the promises becouse if I keep working my programme in dayly basis and counciously every day I will find that they keep comming true becouse if I allready have same Serenity I will be able to encrease it little by little of course with the help from above and a lot of Good Will.Wishing you all another 24 Hours of Happiness I say Good By for now. intldefletes@cantv.net


Member: Rafael H.
Location: Valencia-Venezuela
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 19:37:24

Comments

Hi,my name is Rafael and i'm an alcoholic that thanks to my Superior Power I have been able to avoid drinking for a little bit more than 6 years. I agree with what its said about the promises becouse if I keep working my programme in dayly basis and counciously every day I will find that they keep comming true becouse if I allready have same Serenity I will be able to encrease it little by little of course with the help from above and a lot of Good Will.Wishing you all another 24 Hours of Happiness I say Good By for now. intldefletes@cantv.net


Member: Rafael H.
Location: Valencia-Venezuela
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 19:38:21

Comments

Hi,my name is Rafael and i'm an alcoholic that thanks to my Superior Power I have been able to avoid drinking for a little bit more than 6 years. I agree with what its said about the promises becouse if I keep working my programme in dayly basis and counciously every day I will find that they keep comming true becouse if I allready have same Serenity I will be able to encrease it little by little of course with the help from above and a lot of Good Will.Wishing you all another 24 Hours of Happiness I say Good By for now. intldefletes@cantv.net


Member: Rafael H.
Location: Valencia-Venezuela
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 19:41:22

Comments

Hi,my name is Rafael and i'm an alcoholic that thanks to my Superior Power I have been able to avoid drinking for a little bit more than 6 years. I agree with what its said about the promises becouse if I keep working my programme in dayly basis and counciously every day I will find that they keep comming true becouse if I allready have same Serenity I will be able to encrease it little by little of course with the help from above and a lot of Good Will.Wishing you all another 24 Hours of Happiness I say Good By for now. intldefletes@cantv.net


Member: Rafael H.
Location: Valencia-Venezuela
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 19:43:02

Comments

Hi,my name is Rafael and i'm an alcoholic that thanks to my Superior Power I have been able to avoid drinking for a little bit more than 6 years. I agree with what its said about the promises becouse if I keep working my programme in dayly basis and counciously every day I will find that they keep comming true becouse if I allready have same Serenity I will be able to encrease it little by little of course with the help from above and a lot of Good Will.Wishing you all another 24 Hours of Happiness I say Good By for now. intldefletes@cantv.net


Member: trei j
Location:
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 20:05:02

Comments

hi my name is trei and i am an alcoholic. great topic. for me the promises are located after the ninth step for a reason. i know for me when i first came into aa i thought the promises where coming true for me. but today i realize that those promises after the ninth step is only one set of promises in the bb. the first set of promises for me is in the 5th chapter right after the 3rd step begins. looking back i believe today that was the feeling of elation i felt within the first 6 months of soberity. but after nine months the obsession had come back. i got booted of that pink cloud i was riding. after that first good feeling i wanted to stop and enjoy life, but this program is a program of action and i had to get active. after i became willing to do the steps and put some of that willingness into action only after the ninth step did i really begin to understand that those promises do come true only if work at it. my life is very different than it used to be. that does not mean that days or even weeks go by with my will out of line with God's will for me. the promises mean to me that when i realize that i have been doing my will instead of God's, that he has given me enough grace to keep the obsession of drinking from me. at that moment i stop be sick with that particular problem and a little more of the promises have come true for me.


Member: Khara W.
Location: Nebraska
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 21:48:53

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Hi! Quick note: Chris G. Have you ever read "When Bad Things Happen to Good People"? It was recommended by my sponser, it changed my life and my view of the Creator forever. Best Wishes!


Member: joyce
Location: Illinois
Date: 10 Nov 1998
Time: 23:03:19

Comments

Hi, Joyce, alcoholic. Wonderful topic. And the promises do come true, in time. We just can't expect them to happen all at once. We didn't get to be an alcoholic all at once. If we work the program, go to any length to get sober, the promises will come true. Jim C. Don't be ashamed - be proud that you'll willing to reach out for help. That's a huge step forward. Love to all Joyce


Member: Debbie G
Location: NH
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 01:49:47

Comments

Hi my name is Debbie G and I'm an alcoholic. the promises do come true. It's only 12 steps out of the woods. To Mike C 8 months and Jerry C 12 hours keep up the good work, one day at a time.If it weren't for the newcomers or people coming back, I wouldn't know what I have. Thank you and please remember to go to meetings and ask for help. God Bless ODAAT Debbie


Member: Debbie G
Location: NH
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 01:50:39

Comments

Hi my name is Debbie G and I'm an alcoholic. the promises do come true. It's only 12 steps out of the woods. To Mike C 8 months and Jerry C 12 hours keep up the good work, one day at a time.If it weren't for the newcomers or people coming back, I wouldn't know what I have. Thank you and please remember to go to meetings and ask for help. God Bless ODAAT Debbie


Member: Michelle M.
Location: Kennebunk, ME
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 07:20:42

Comments

My name is Michelle, and I am an alcoholic. I have been sober for almost three years now and it has been a heck of a ride. When I first came in, I remember hearing the Promises at meetings and they gave me so much hope. I wanted all the stuff that is promised, especiallythe part that says that "we will not regret the past, nor wish to shut the door on it", "that feeling of uselessness and self pity will dissappear" and most of all-"we will intuitively know how to handle situations that used to baffle us". These words gave me so much hope that I, too, could do it and that I was not alone. I thought that I was the only person in the world that felt like the biggest mistake ever made. Today I am working on getting to know who I am and dealing with the past-childhood issues (yeah, that's fun) and other things that will make me a better person. I have a great sponsor who loves me no matter what I tell her. The promises are already coming true for me. Before I got sober, I couldn't show up for work every day. Now I have my own business. I was in a very unhappy marriage, and I got the courage to leave. My divorce will be final next week. (No, I am not looking for a replacement) I share my story with newcomers, and I even sponsor a woman. My three deep, dark secrets are virtually forgotten. They do not rule me or haunt me anymore. In fact, I use them to help other women know that they are not alone. I know what serenity means...when the smile on your heart matches the one on your face. I still have stuff to work on, though. I still get fearful of people, but I am learning that some "people fears" are in fact very healthy. God does do for me what I could not do for myself. Yes, it is true, the promises are real...THEY WILL ALWAYS MATERIALIZE IF WE WORK FOR THEM. If you are new, PLEASE get a sponsor-a winner-who will guide you through the program and help you take a long look and yourself. I didn't know if I could "do this AA thing", but, guess what-I have a whole new life now and it is awesome. It does work...just keep coming back and please, don't drink. With love and prayers for your recovery (and mine), Michelle M.


Member: Jerry C
Location: Colorado
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 09:43:27

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Jerry C, drunk. I made it past the 12 hours, into a day and now on my third day. God I want a drink! It is amazing the excuses I dream up! How does one get a sponser?


Member: Doris
Location: Oregon
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 15:26:18

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Good Day, my name is Doris and I am an alcoholic and just one drink away from the feelings Jerry from Colorado is feeling right now. Jerry, please click onto the Coffee pot and talk to the folks there and after a while, if you don't drink you will find out what the promises are all about. The promises were becoming true in my life even before i knew they existed. the promisis started coming true for me when I picked up the phone book and looked up Alcoholics Anonymous. Believe it or not it has been all down hill since then. It hasn't been easy but I am still here, , , and I AM sober. Thank You God. Doris


Member: Robert G.
Location: Tempe, AZ.
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 17:22:50

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Hi, my name is Robert and I am an alcoholic.I like the topic "The Promises" it makes me take a look around to see if there coming true and when I do that I start comparing what my life used to be like and where I'm headed now. I've seen enough good things happen since I got sober that I may never be an alcohlic again, things are too good right now. and with that I'll pass.


Member: Tom D.
Location: Birmigham, AL
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 17:40:37

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Hi, my name is Tom and, unfortunately, I like to drink. Hell, I like to drink a lot. This is the first time I have ever sought help and it scares me, but at the same time I hope it will be the best thing to ever happen to me.

I have had a serious drinking problem for about 4 years. Initially I didn't care, I was in college and everyone else was doing it. I graduated and, for a short time, gained control of my drinking, but now it is different. Whatever caused me to start drinking again, stress, more money, my friends, I don't care. I want to regain control and I don't know how.

Somedays I will not drink, but this is usually because I'm too hung over from the night before. I find myself waking up in the mornings saying to myself, "Damn, I'm not going to do that tonight." It seems like I always do it again.

Without getting religious, how do I get control of this problem? Help.


Member: peter b
Location: devon england
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 19:14:26

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hello i am peter well cheesed off after reading all your " good news " comments i suppose i too am an alcoholic got a wife who is gorgeous , much younger than me and loves and backs me to the hilt .4 fabulous kids aged 20.....17.....12 and 3 yrs and a succesfull business plus national respect and fame in my trade.but tonight as most nights ,after a meeting had 5 pints of strong beer with fellow comittee members came home had roast dinner with wine ,now drinking glass of wine having consumed 2 bottles //i know i am a pisshead but do it quietly never violent but in my heart of hearts know i am killing myself ,my marriage and the respect of my children. worst of all i am a lousy role model for them..what next ?/my father was a heavy drinker and one of my brothers <younger than me> died from it


Member: peter b
Location: devon england
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 19:15:23

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hello i am peter well cheesed off after reading all your " good news " comments i suppose i too am an alcoholic got a wife who is gorgeous , much younger than me and loves and backs me to the hilt .4 fabulous kids aged 20.....17.....12 and 3 yrs and a succesfull business plus national respect and fame in my trade.but tonight as most nights ,after a meeting had 5 pints of strong beer with fellow comittee members came home had roast dinner with wine ,now drinking glass of wine having consumed 2 bottles //i know i am a pisshead but do it quietly never violent but in my heart of hearts know i am killing myself ,my marriage and the respect of my children. worst of all i am a lousy role model for them..what next ?/my father was a heavy drinker and one of my brothers <younger than me> died from it


Member: peter b
Location: devon england
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 19:16:08

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hello i am peter well cheesed off after reading all your " good news " comments i suppose i too am an alcoholic got a wife who is gorgeous , much younger than me and loves and backs me to the hilt .4 fabulous kids aged 20.....17.....12 and 3 yrs and a succesfull business plus national respect and fame in my trade.but tonight as most nights ,after a meeting had 5 pints of strong beer with fellow comittee members came home had roast dinner with wine ,now drinking glass of wine having consumed 2 bottles //i know i am a pisshead but do it quietly never violent but in my heart of hearts know i am killing myself ,my marriage and the respect of my children. worst of all i am a lousy role model for them..what next ?/my father was a heavy drinker and one of my brothers <younger than me> died from it


Member: Linda O
Location: PTB, FL
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 19:20:40

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Hi! I'm Linda and I'm an alcoholic.

Foolishly, when I first came into the program I thought the Promises only meant money -- lots of money! It wasn't until I had my first taste of serenity that I began to understand what the Promises really can mean in a person's life. That feeling of "wearing the world as a loose garment" and the blessed peace. Of course, the material part of the Promises have come true, too; however, certainly not in the way I dreamed they would. As a matter of fact, one promise happened for me the day after I picked up my white chip. My co-worker came into the office the next day and said he was afraid of the car I was driving and that he wanted me to have one of his. I had no money, no credit, no way to pay him back. He let me make small payments on the car until I had it paid off, which also helped me to establish credit. I've always considered that incident as my Higher Power saying "Keep up the good work!"

Jim C., Welcome. Don't worry about who might see you at an AA meeting. Did you ever worry about who might see you falling down drunk?

Craig G., Welcome. Try not to concentrate on the "God thing" right now. Just concentrate on getting and staying sober, being around people who are trying to live in sobriety, and let whatever higher power there is out there take care of the rest.

Tom D., Welcome. The time has come for you to go to an AA meeting. Look in the phone book for AA Central Office and find out where the closest meeting to you might be. If you're unable to get there (or find it too painful), ask for a member's phone number and call someone in the program.

To all three of you guys, keep checking back with us -- we're all here to help.

In love and service


Member: Devon C
Location: CA
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 21:13:42

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Hi my name is Devon I'm new (not to drinking only to the program). I want this to work and am still not too sure about how to go about communicating with all the others out there like me. So if anyone would like to talk. Jerry C, Tom ect... anyone get my e-mail from the coffee pot. Peace and success to all Devon C


Member: Tom A.
Location: Carlisle, AR
Date: 11 Nov 1998
Time: 23:13:34

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Hello!

My name is Tom A. and I asked my Higher Power this morning to help me stay sober today. I did not take a drink and in and I am thanking that Higher Power for keeping me sober TODAY. To me that's what the PROMISES are all about.

I enjoy meeting with all of you on Staying Cyber. And thank you Amy for suggesting the topic for this week.

God Bless!


Member: Sue D.
Location: NC
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 01:06:08

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Jerry C. and the rest of the "new crew" KEEP COMING BACK. I was happy to read of your progress Jerry.


Member: Sue D.
Location: NC
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 01:08:14

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To the New Comers: Jerry and the rest. KEEP COMING BACK. Prayers are coming your way.


Member: Dave W.
Location: Massachusetts
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 01:20:59

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Hi everybody, I'm Dave and I'm an alcoholic. For newcomers, the "Promises" are found on pp. 83-84 of the Big Book, right after the sentence "As God's people we stand on our feet; we don't crawl before anyone."

"If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are halfway through. We are going to know a new freedom, and a new happiness. We will not regret the past, nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity, and we will know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things, and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations that used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves. Are these extravagant promises? We think not. They are being fulfilled among us - sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. They will always materialize if we work for them."

To all newcomers - welcome. Keep coming back, it works if you let it.


Member: Bonnie C - 5/30/80
Location: Seattle
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 05:47:23

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Hi extended family, bonnie/alcoholic here (((ROOM-HUG))) 2 really good topics, thanks ((amys)) for the promises & ((dj)) for Love for each other = actually the promises make the love for one another possible. they told me that rarely had they seen a person fail that had thoroughly followed their path, well after some side streets and freeways of my own choosing I decided to do it your way, and it worked, I live the promises today. the first day in the program the gal who took me to my first meeting told me to read 60thru63 449thru452 and 83&84 in the big book daily, i did that everyday for yrs (its whats wrong with me, what I can do about it and what happens if i do) what a gift of unconditional love from one alky to another. and to keep this gift I have to give it away, unconditionally. thats the best kind of love. Dear God please bless all who venture here, love and hugs, bon - bonzoc@webtv.net


Member: Glynis K
Location: Northern Florida
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 07:33:11

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Hi My name is Glynis and I'm an alcoholic. First, I'd like to say to the newcomers, keep up the good work. It's not easy, but well worth it. You may not see this yet, but have a little faith, that if all the others, myself included, can do it, so can you! Second, the topic"The Promises"... When I first heard them I figured they would be a part of everyone else's sobriety, but not mine. Little by little, one day at a time, I can say that they have all come true. Not all at once, and not for great lengths of time, but they are in my life. I keep them posted on my wall, right next to the serenity prayer, in the room where my computer is. Things have been difficult this past year. Moved away from friends and family, lost my job, can't get "connected" to local meetings, very far from home, and yet I do have a sense of freedom from not drinking and the insanity all that brings I'm not sure how peaceful I am these days, and the economic insecurities have reared their ugly heads. I know deep down, I will be okay, He has a better plan for me than what I see right now. The very last promise is the one I am holding very dear to me right now. The realization that God is doing for me what I can't do for myself. Thank you for this site. I needed this


Member: GEORGINA R
Location: EDMONTON,ALBERTA
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 12:02:24

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HI, GEORGINA, ALCOHOLIC, WELCOME TO THE NEW COMMERS, IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BOOZE YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, WHEN I CAME INTO AA, I WONDERED IF I WOULD MEET PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, AND I DID, BUT AS MY SPONSER SAID IF THEY ARE THERE THEN THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AS YOU HAVE, REMEBER WHO YOU SEE THERE AND WHAT YOU HERE THERE LEAVE IT THERE UNLESS IT IS SOMETHING THAT REALY HITS HOME. I TOO AT BEING ON LINE BUT I KNOW SINCE I FOUND THIS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO IT SURE HELPS ME GET THREW MY DAY JUST READING WHAT THE NEW COMERS HAVE TO SAY AND WHAY IT IS LIKE FOR THEM. THE NEWCOMERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON BECAUSE THEY REMI8ND ME WHAT IT WAS LIKE WAY BACK THEN, AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 8 YEARS AND SOMETIMES I GET SO CONFUSED THAT I THINK I HAVE JUST COME AROUND AGAIN. THANKS FOR THE PROMISES THEY ARE ONE OF MY DAILY READINGS AND THEY DO COME TRUE IF YOU WORK FOR THEM, ONE DAY AT A TIME. LOVE TO ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.


Member: Doris
Location: Oregon
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 12:33:44

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Good Day, My name is Doris and I am an alcoholic. Peter in England, my heart goes ut to you and others like you. A little over a year and a half ago I was exactly where you are right now. I see this about you. The promises look imp[ossible for you right now. You are still IN your disease. I saw things the same way. I desperately wanted the promises to be true for me but THEY WEREN'T. I see you as having already taken the first step. It's the next step that is your stumbling block and without truly and honostly taking it I don't see how you can move on.My prayer for you at this point is that you TAKE THIS STEP. You say you are a financially well off person. I pray that you are able, no!, that you WILL check yourself into a re-hab and do "WHATEVER IT TAKES" to start your journey on the road to sobriety. I was in a pit and I saw no way out. The promises couldn't come true for me unless I commited myself wholeheartedly, completely. I see the despair in your post. I see the desperation and I just want to wish you peace and sobriety.Please try to do this. Love in the fellowship. Doris


Member: Karen C
Location: S.D.CA
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 13:33:02

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Well, it's the first day again, it's so easy when I wake up. Mabey this will be the beginning, It sure was nice to read all your comments. Wish me luck.


Member: Bruce T
Location: Space Ctr (brevard) FL
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 13:47:35

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Member: angie m.
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 18:27:24

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Hi I'm Angie an alcoholic I just read the promises for the first time in ages and cried. I forgot how beautiful they are and how far this program and my sobriety had brought me. The promises come true here and there within my life depending on my attitude and my relationship with my higher power. Am I taking care of myself and doing the things that this program taught me? Some days are harder than others but I know that if the Promises aren't beaming there sunlight on me today they will tomorrow or another day as long as I stay sober one day at a time and walk a straight path to the best of my ability peace


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 19:39:57

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Here are some of the promises that are in the Bib Book and they will come true if you work for them. Thy have all started coming true for me. If they were easy to get I wouldn't want them. I have to continue to work for them the rest of my life and give it away. Step 3 Promises We had a new Employer. Being all powerful, He provided what we needed, if we kept close to Him and performed His work well. Established on such a footing we became less and less interested in ourselves, our own little plans and designs. More and more we became interested in seeing what we could contribute to life. As we felt new power flow in, as we enjoyed peace of mind, as we discovered we could face life successfully, as we became conscious of His presence, we began to lose our fear of today, tomorrow or the hereafter. We were reborn. Step 5 promises We can look the world in the eye. We can be alone at perfect peace and ease. Our fears fall from us. We begin to feel the nearness of our Creator. We may have had certain spiritual beliefs, but now we begin to have a spiritual experience. The feeling that the drink problem has disappeared will often come strongly. We feel we are on the Broad Highway, walking hand in hand with the Spirit of the Universe. Step 9 Promises We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves. You will live in a new and wonderful world no matter what your present circumstances are. Fellowship at meetings There you will find release from care, boredom and worry. Your imagination will be fired. Life will mean something at last. The most satisfactory years of your existence lie ahead.


Member: Therese
Location: Spain.
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 19:41:41

Comments

Hi my name is Therese and I am an alcoholic. Could anybody be so kind as to list the 12 promises I don`t know what they are. Thankyou.


Member: Jeff
Location: The First State
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 20:35:40

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Hi, Jeff here, and I'm an Alcoholic. I have been a member of A.A since March and the Promises really helped me and showed me the way. As far as listing the 12 steps,, try www.recovery.org/aa/ . Thanks for letting me share and for all your comments.


Member: Jo Ann B.
Location: Texas
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 22:13:14

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To Peter B. in England - It sounds as if you just might be ready to come to AA and get sober and into a fantastic way of living. You have everything, but if you're alcoholic, you will more than likely lose it all as you are beginning to realize. You can find AA Central Office or individual AA groups listed in the telephone book. Call them, start going to meetings, do what they tell you to do, and DON'T drink anymore. It's really pretty simple. There is lots of help out there for you. Remember this: Alcohol wants it all - your job/business. your family, your home, your money, and ultimately - your life. Keep coming back here and let us help you too.


Member: Bre E.
Location: Reserve, Louisiana
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 22:19:56

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HI I'm Bre I'm a alcohlic. this i my frist visit here. i just made a year,Nov.6.I can't even begin to tell you how much I couldn't believe those promises the second I heard them. It sounded as if I listening to a infomerical. However I was willing to do anything for just a little sanity! I'm happy to report that not long after I started my nine step, I didnt just feel the promises, I could see them. That fear of people is still my boggyman though. Mostly I'm greatful to be able see,and have the tools of A.A. thanks for letting me share. I think I'll be back

Thanks,Bre


Member: Bre E.
Location: Reserve, Louisiana
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 22:21:28

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HI I'm Bre I'm a alcohlic. this i my frist visit here. i just made a year,Nov.6.I can't even begin to tell you how much I couldn't believe those promises the second I heard them. It sounded as if I listening to a infomerical. However I was willing to do anything for just a little sanity! I'm happy to report that not long after I started my nine step, I didnt just feel the promises, I could see them. That fear of people is still my boggyman though. Mostly I'm greatful to be able see,and have the tools of A.A. thanks for letting me share. I think I'll be back

Thanks,Bre


Member: Gary S. (garyhd80@aol.com)
Location: Mi
Date: 12 Nov 1998
Time: 22:39:09

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Hi, my name is Gary and I am an alcoholic. I don't have to drink and it is a joy to be sober in AA. Joy is one of the PROMISES. On pg. 133, it says "We are sure God wants us to be happy, joyous, and free...." They wrote that out of their experience, not by some hope or desire, out of their experience. Having worked, and continuing to work, the 12 steps in my life, I got that. The writers of the Big Book made another promise in the first sentence they wrote in the 1st edition foreword. They said they had recovered. I am recovered, I am not recovering. There is a difference. One of the promises is that we can recover. No where in the Big Book does it say that we will be recovering for the rest of our lives. That's what the program of the Fellowship says. The BB program says we have recovered and have a daily reprieve based upon our spiritual condition. I know this because it is happening in my life, just as it did in theirs out of their experience. When I do what the bookk suggests to me to do, I get what they say i will get as the result. Thanks for being there.


Member: Susan S.
Location: Colorado
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 13:12:35

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I am a newcomer. So new that I have not attended a meeting in several months of drinking. All of your letters have given me the courage to try AA again. The promises were always my favorite part of AA. I have not yet learned how not to drink but I have renewed hope that if I go back to AA these promises will come true for me too. I'm so glad I found this website. Thanks to all of you for writing in. If you would like to e-mail me with your experinence, strength and hope in my new journey for sobriety my e-mail address is susan1998@webtv.net.

Thanks! Susan S.


Member: Susan S.
Location: Colorado
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 13:13:22

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I am a newcomer. So new that I have not attended a meeting in several months of drinking. All of your letters have given me the courage to try AA again. The promises were always my favorite part of AA. I have not yet learned how not to drink but I have renewed hope that if I go back to AA these promises will come true for me too. I'm so glad I found this website. Thanks to all of you for writing in. If you would like to e-mail me with your experinence, strength and hope in my new journey for sobriety my e-mail address is susan1998@webtv.net.

Thanks! Susan S.


Member: Michelle V
Location: Chicago IL
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 13:28:36

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Hi, I'm Michelle and I'm an alcoholic. I'm so glad I found you! Anyway, I realized a couple of weeks ago, that the Promises, which are coming true for me today, are what I really drank for (even though I didn't realize it at the time). I wanted peace and freedom and serenity. Today, although I have days when my mind is really out of whack, I have a lot of serene and peaceful days--despite any problems I might have. During my drinking days I isolated myself so much that my relationship with the bottle pretty much was the only one I had. I was terrified of other people. Now, I think nothing of striking up a conversation with a stranger, or joining in. I am in debt up to my ears (I spent money the way I drank), but somehow the money is always there. I'm not rich by any means, but I am comfortable. The point is, the Promises do come true and I remember reading them early on in my sobriety and thinking how much I wanted them. And now they are happening. I am so grateful to this program and to my Higher Power who has given me a second chance at life.


Member: Brian G.
Location: Langley, British Columbia, Canada
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 16:04:13

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RE: The Promises

Hi friends, my name is Brian and I'm an alcoholic. I'm happy to be here and grateful to be sober. This is my first time at this meeting, and I'm looking forward to frequent visits in future.

It's a good thing for me to read and think about The Promises. I don't always see them coming true in my day to day life, but reflecting back on it, I usually see that are. The Promise I do think about from time to time is "that feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear." It has, for the most part, but when it returns, usually on a Sunday for some reason, which was the worst day for me when I was drinking, I think, "Hey, I haven't felt this in awhile." More often than not, I choose to wallow in it and inflict myself on my wife and kids, instead of immediately getting into action and letting it go. But I think I'm getting better (or is that, being restored to sanity?)

Thanks for my sobriety.


Member: pat p
Location: england
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 18:02:42

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Yes the promises have become a reality for me too i was at my meeting tuesday, in england in a remote village and the unity and love in the room can never be got any where else except AA.I owe my life to this wonderful fellowship. thanks for keeping ME sober,just love you guys out there.pat


Member: Martin G
Location: Santiago,Chile
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 20:27:57

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The most important promise is the one that you make to yourself that you will try to do(or avoid doing) everything that consciously can to admit,accept and surrender so that you too can experience the unbridled joy and contentment that comes with having the Big Book promises become a reality for you.


Member: Freebird
Location: Canada
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 21:10:54

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Hi everyone, My name is Freebird and I am an alcoholic.

Very nice site you have here. I've been lurking for a couple of days, not sure what to say, naturally I don't care for the scrapping but I guess I can't change that so I'll have to accept it or ignore it. I found it very interesting however on one gentleman's rude remarks, nobody replied, Ha. This is a truly good site I immediatly thought, If he wants a scrap, he'll have to argue with himself. Anyway, the excellent postings,the ones that make you laugh,the ones that make you sad, the ones that make you think and face reality, those are priceless, and hopefully I will continue to benefit from them.

Take care, glad to be here, glad to be sober.

Freebird

P.S. Had a rocket once too Tom T. HaHa, glad you made it, its' not funny but I laughed so hard I hurt. Could use some wood too Please


Member: Copper
Location: Southwest
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 21:33:36

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Welcome Freebird! Hi! My name is Copper & I'm definitely an Alcoholic, a very grateful Alcoholic! I never thought I would see the Promises coming through in my life - yet as I heard over & over again at meetings...give Time, Time & things will get better, because you get better!!! Amen. It took time, but it did get better. Yes, Freebird, if we can ignore the rudeness, sometimes those guys get better too. At any rate, it's great to be Sober, yes?


Member: Freebird
Location: Canada
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 21:36:20

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Whoops, sorry people , guess I should have posted this in the coffee pot.

Trust a newbie

Freebird


Member: Jerry C
Location: Canada
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 22:17:39

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Coming on 4 years since I have been able to accept the program, I at times sit in wonder at the promises that the big books speaks of. These promises which, when I first read, seemed to me, to be some sort of nonsense that were posted on the meeting room wall to make A.A. more interesting to newcomers. At the time I was so ill that my mind just could not or would not believe that such a state of mind could exist in any person. Happily I have to say that most of them have come to pass for me. This higher power that I did not believe could do anything for me, has certainly given me a life of which I had never even dreamed. Thanks to A.A.


Member: Charles P.
Location: South Ms.
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 23:26:33

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My name is Charles,alcoholic.The Promises will come if i'm PAINSTAKING about this phase of my development.Sometimes i'm not painstaking and i lose them.I have to stay close to my friends in AA and God so i won't lose them for good.To do so means insanity or death for me.I to thought in the beginning they would not come for me.I kept commin back and it started happening in my life like others i heard speak in meetings.God is where they come from,so all i have to do is stay in contact and try to do his will for me.


Member: DEB H
Location: OHIO
Date: 13 Nov 1998
Time: 23:49:00

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GOOD TOPIC!!!! I AM 7 YRS SOBER BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND THE FELLOWSHIP. THE PROMISES STARTING COMING TRUE FOR ME ABOUT 4 YRS AGO. ONE NIGHT AT A MEETING I HEARD THEM READ AGAIN LIKE SO MANY OTHER NIGHTS BUT THIS TIME IT WAS DIFFERENT I RELIZED THAT SOME WERE BEGINNING TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFE. TODAY MANY HAVE COME TRUE FOR ME AND IN SOME WAYS THEY HAVE HELPED ME TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE. JUST RELIZING THAT THOSE PROMISES WHERE ALWAYS THERE AS LONG AS I PUT MY FAITH IN A HIGHER POWER WHOM I CHOOSE TO CALL GOD AND THE FELLOWSHIP MY LIFE IS MUCH BETTER TODAY. IT TOOK SOME WORK BUT IT HAS ALL BEEN WORTH IT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE TRIED IN AA. SOMEDAYS IT FEELS LIKE I AM BACK TO SQUARE ONE BUT THEN I JUST SAY THE SERENITY PRAYER AND THE BLACK CLOUD STARTS TO GO AWAY AND THE SUN STARTS TO SHINE AGAIN. THANKS FOR BEING THERE AND KEEPING LOOKING FOR THE SUN.DEB H.


Member: Katie T.
Location: Oregon
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 01:02:51

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Hi Everyone:

I am Katie and I am an alcoholic. I needed to hear the promises again. I desperately needed the reminder. I have 11 years sober. What the promises mean to me, is not that things will be easy or fun, but that I will have the inspiration and ability to cope with whatever comes my way. That I will be able to live life on lifes terms and not have to numb myself with alcohol to keep the pain from driving me crazy. Being able to deal with life sober has enabled me to experience feelings that I would be too frightened to have experienced before. I have so much gratitude in my heart to AA and the God of my understanding for my sobriety.

My heart goes out to the "seekers" and the new comers. I remember very well the emotional turmoil and agony and the "growing pains" of my first year of sobriety and how fear still ruled me most of the time.

About those that have a problem with "religion" or God. After I my first AA meeting, I too commented on the "God thing". No way, no how was I going to pray. God hated my guts or I wouldn't be feeling like this. Well, this wonderful woman shared with me and it went like this: Katie, you decide what you want your "higher power" to be. It can be the God of your childhood whatever. Make a list of all the things you want God to be for you. Then make a list of all the things you DONT want him/her/it to be. Throw the DONT list away and keep the WANT TO BE list for your higher power. Pray to that God in the morning, on your knees asking "please, help me stay sober" and at night saying "thank you for keeping me sober" and anytime during the day you feel the urge to drink, or have any emotional discomfort start a running prayer in your head asking for whatever help you need. In real bad times find someplace private and spill your heart out to that God. Go to meetings and don't drink inbetween.

It worked for me. My spirituality keeps me sane. Thank you all for being here. I really needed a meeting tonight and leaving home was not an option. Thanks for letting me share but most of all thank you all for sharing with me.

Group Hug.


Member: DAN D
Location: LAS VEGAS
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 03:31:35

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hi im Dan alcoholic been sober since 7/24/91 I know the promises come true. If you pay people back you get your selfresecpt back.I was 2 years sober when the Irs call I was full of fear. i told my sponsor that the wanted my money he in retun said NO they want theirs. The 10 step has a promise that i acheive nautrality and saftey'that is the biggest gift I RECIEVE.if keep coming does not work STAY HERE does .


Member: John V
Location: ATL GA
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 12:58:45

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Hello All, I'm John an alcoholic, I went through treatment last year at this time. I went to meetings and did what I was supposed to do. I asked for help and got none. I couldn't find anyone to sponser me and every time I went to treatment I would hear "Do you have a sponsor?" I felt like such a looser in the program because it seemed like everybody else was getting sponsors and help from people they knew and I didn't know anyone. I hate who I am right now and desperately want a better life and a life with god. I can't seem to get it together. I am not an easy person to get to know because I don't even know myself. I do know that my life is frought with ALOT of anger and confusion. Thanks


Member: Myka  N.
Location: Montreal, Canada
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 14:35:21

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Hello everyone! I'm Myka and I'm an alcoholic. Wow I am really being taking care of by my HP!He is showing me how to handle situations which totally use to baffle me. When I graduated from school for my chosen proffession I was still active in my disease. Soon after My doctor told me that I could never work in my field due to a back problem.Well of course I did not listen and went on to really hurt my back.Even in sobriety I could not accept that I must retrain for a total sit down job. In my fifth year of sobriety my higher power is showing me that yes I can do something else. I've always dreaded computers. Terrified of them. Totally fearful that I could never even learn to turn one on! Well three weeks ago I got one and I am actually learning new skills for a new job. What has motivated me the most to even turn the thing on ? Why AA online thats what! I'm so thrilled to have found this place here.God is giving me the courage and strength I never had to take this step I must take. Can computers be so bad if I can find AA there? No! Thank you all for letting me share.Have a sober and serene 24 hrs!


Member: Tina M.
Location: Pennsylvania
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 15:48:07

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Hi everybody, My name is Tina I'm a grateful recovering alcoholic. I just found this website, I think it's great. If I'm snowed in this winter, I'll know where to come. I've learned in the past 6 years that there is hope no matter how far you've gone down the ladder. And all of us sat in that chair for the first time, but if you stick around long enough, the miracle does happen and the promises do come true. I still live in the same small town that I drank in, but I get out of town to meetings and I stick with the winners. It works if you work it, one day at a time. Thanks for letting me share. God bless all of you.


Member: Marylane F.
Location: Hillsboro, OR
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 16:48:31

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Hi, I'm Marylane and I am an alcoholic. The topic of this meeting is a good one. The promises are something that at 7 years of sobriety am learning that they are finally coming true in my life. I have 2 boys ages 6 & 8 and they tend to keep me very busy. But never so busy that I don't go to meetings. I enjoy going to meetings and being with other alcoholics. It is much easier than going to work and being with normies. They are very different at times, and don't understand my actions or my feelings. I know that in a meeting of alcoholics anonymous, I am always welcome. The hugs are just a gift from everyone. But they are very important to me all the time. This is the way that I am able to give part of myself to another person and love them for who they are and they love me for who I am. Things are really different in my life now that I believe that the promises are coming true little by little. It does take time but I have all the time I want one day at a time


Member: Dan P
Location: Detriot
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 20:33:48

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My name is Dan. I've been a drunk for the past i dont know how many years. I beat my kids, my wife when i get drunk. My wife tried to get a divorce, but she gave me a last chance, that chance is now, i'm tring everything to help but i'm back to the boose. can anyone help me?


Member: dj
Location: norfolk
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 23:35:02

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dj an alkie

all the help anyone needs DAN P.,in a higher power a meeting and a sponsor call aa on

the phone and get going keep the plug in the jug and hang on till your ass falls off!! its worked for

millions for 50 years there you go. it will for you too.!!!!! if you work it........


Member: dj
Location: norfolk
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 23:35:48

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dj an alkie

all the help anyone needs DAN P.,in a higher power a meeting and a sponsor call aa on

the phone and get going keep the plug in the jug and hang on till your ass falls off!! its worked for

millions for 50 years there you go. it will for you too.!!!!! if you work it........


Member: beth h.
Location: memphis
Date: 14 Nov 1998
Time: 23:46:31

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Im Frances, alcoholic. i am very new to the AA program and i am not certain it can work for me. i notice the marked difference in my attitudes and general outlook on life since i have quit drinking but i have so many issues still to deal with i dont know if i can make it all the way. the major factor with me is my general belief that i am a failure. i am afraid to stick my neck out there because i am certain i will fail. i know all of the old phrases about "you never know til you try" etc... but the only thing i am really good at is making an ass of myself. it sounds pathetic i know but that is my underlying feelings. how can i possibly change a lifelong pattern of thoughts and behaviors and begin to enjoy life. it seem too far off to imagine. any words of wisdom?


Member: susan s.
Location: NYC
Date: 15 Nov 1998
Time: 00:01:53

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im susan, and i am an alcoholic. faith that the promises will work for me is difficult in times of stress. this particular group is helpful in my stress right now. thanks for being here.


Member: Jo Ann B.
Location: Texas
Date: 15 Nov 1998
Time: 00:34:31

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Beth H/Frances, You cannot change your lifelong patterns of so-called "failures", but God can and will change you if you give yourself totally to this simple program. Go to AA meetings. talk to the people there, get a sponsor, and miracles will begin to happen for you as it has for thousands & thousands of us alcoholics.


Member: Khara W.
Location: Nebraska
Date: 15 Nov 1998
Time: 00:36:38

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I'm an alcoholic, my name is Khara. Thanx to all who have shared their experience, strength, and hope regarding the Promises. This has been a refresher course for me, enlightening!!! John V.(ATL GA) Pray for hope, it has changed the lives of millions of drunks world wide. Tina M.(Pennsylvania) - welcome, I am glad you are here. Dan P. - you and your family are in my prayers. Get to detox, it is specially designed for us. Frances- (Memphis)it CAN and DOES work, look at all of us. We are proof that AA works, the PROMISES do come true. The promise that has been the biggest miracle for me is that "we will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us". For this, I am grateful.


Member: Karen C
Location: CA
Date: 15 Nov 1998
Time: 00:43:17

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Hi, I'm Karen, and I'm 3 days new. Can hardley believe Ive made it this far, especially through a firday and saterday night. I've been reading about the promises and nothing short of a miracle will get me through, but I am listening and am ready for God's help,and anything extra in the form of promises will just be bonus. Anyway, grateful for this medium to share, read and reflect. And all you newcommers like me let's work it this time.


Member: CURT A
Location: LINCOLN  NE
Date: 15 Nov 1998
Time: 01:22:12

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SOBER TODAY! THINKING ABOUT TODAY ONLY! LIFE IS VERY GOOD. I FEEL THE SOLUTION FOR MY REVOVERY IS: I HAVE FOUND GOD! I'M NO BIBLE PUSHER, JUST AS AA MEMBERS ARE NOT AA PUSHERS. YOU HELP IF YOU FEEL THE WARRENT. GOD BLESS. AND TAKE CARE. HOW FAST IS THIS ANSWERED? I RECEIVED MY ONE YEAR SEPT 12TH, FOR ABOUT THE THIRD TIME, HOPE TO BE THE LAST, BUT THEN AGAIN, TODAY, ONLY, WILL I THINK ABOUT TODAY.


Member: Lance N
Location: WY
Date: 15 Nov 1998
Time: 04:40:09

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I feel like a intruder - I'm not an alcoholic. I do need help, you see my wife is.(she addmitted it to my just a few hours ago) As most things in life go, I would rate this as the biggest break i've been blessed with in a long time. I heard both bad and good about AA. She has asek me for help I can not give her. I come from a big family that is loveing and carring. No one in my family has involved me with drinking related problems. Parents, brothers and sisters; none drink. This has turned out to be my down fall. My wife and two year old son are the most imporant things in my life. The delema I face now is how to face her in a positive and supportive direction. Thus AA. The name alone makes this hard. I do not want to disregard years of tradition and leave a e-mail address. So how can you help? I have let a link to this web page on her desktop in hopes that this will be her first step. I pray that since this is the end of this week dission that it might be read anyway. Please Just let her know you care too. That it is possible to live w/o the drink. Sorry to intrude, but I beleive she is in need of some hope. In need of some Promises. God bless you all. Her name (if she responds) should be Stacy N. Her Location in WY