Member: Noreen K.
Location: Union, NJ
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 13:10:07

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I'm new here. Don't know the topic of discussion, but I would like to hear info on slipping.


Member: john a
Location: duncanville tx.
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 13:31:58

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hi im john im an alcholic ive been sober for 1yr &4 mo now and ive found that every morning if i ask god not to let me drink today . i dont drink i know that i have to go to meetings at least 5 times a week and that seems to work i dont go where alchol is . and i call some one from my group every day if for nothing else just to say hi . just remember it progres not perfection have a good week god bless you all john a


Member: Noreen K
Location: NJ
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 13:41:52

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I don't have a "group" yet nor anyone to call. I haven't been to any AA meetings yet..I was counting on the counselling to give me the jolt I needed. I messed up this weekend after only a month's sobriety and my family isn't talking to me and I feel terribly alone right now.No


Member: Ade J
Location: England
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 14:41:38

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Message to Noreen: Well done to you for having the courage to seek help - many people run away further after slipping. As the poet says falling in the river happens to everyone, its how you get out thats important. Please find a group close to your home - no one in AA is there to judge you, just help you. Yo're family, as much as they may try, do not understand how hard it is in the early dry days. This is why the support of AA is important. There is no shame in admitting that alcohol has beaten you - it is a cunning baffling, powerful and above all, patient adversary which is why you need some one at the end of a telephone to talk to when you crave it, someone who has been through the same craving. Pick up a phone, not a drink. On a more practical note, make sure you stock up on sugary foods and drinks, and vitamin B, the supplies of which alcohol destroys in the body. By doing this, and joining AA, your family will see that you are making an effort to overcome this illness and their attitude towards you will change. Suggest they go to an Al-Anon meeting (for the families of alcoholics) to meet others in the same predicament and gain a greater understanding of the alcoholic. Tough love is ofetn the only kind that works for an addict.

Good look with your fight - find a group and you can win. May whoever your god is watch over you.


Member: Michelle
Location: CO
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 15:28:55

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Michelle alcoholic - Noreen, don't be hard on yourself. In fact everyones recovery is designed to benefit them most. Maybe this is your way of confirming that you are done with drinking and it doesn't work for you. I had to test every boundary of the program before I was ready to completely give up king alcohol. I had a lot of false starts, or "mulligans" in sobriety, but finally found that I was out of excuses and tired of hearing myself try to dream up reasons why I was still insane. I consider these times a gift now, and you will too. The best part is you made it back-- some don't. I can't stress the importance of face to face meetings and the support they have to offer you. Your AA family understands your problem best, so best to stick with them for now. Today is a new day, and a great day to be sober. Glad to have you back.


Member: jim  S
Location: Idaho
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 17:37:22

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Noreen always remember we are never alone in the program.God is always listening.Ittook me countless times to realize that.So hang in there life aint easy but its better.If a guy like me can stay sober 5 years anybody can.Remember to keep it simple and let God figure it out.Thats the way it works for me.rEad the big book and let him answer the questions.GOD LOVES YOU.


Member: Kendra S.
Location: Orange County, CA
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 17:47:03

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Kendra, alcoholic. 'Slipping' - when I got sober I was told there is no such thing as slipping. Either you drank or you didn't. I understand though that people sometimes think that they can 'control' their drinking or that their 'cured' I read about it in the BB often. I have experienced the thought of wondering if I could have just one drink (controlled drinking) but never acted on it due to recognizing what I would lose. When I realize those types of thoughts I ask myself what is going on with me that I could have conjured up such a thought. I always have to remember what made me turn to drinking. One of the reasons I drank was because I didn't like the feelings that arose in me. Therefore I would try to flood out them over with alcohol. A reality check for me is doing one or more of the following; making a 'consequences list', which shows me on paper what I have to lose; calling another person in the program and share with them what is going on with me; attending a meeting as soon as possible, and without second thought---praying and asking for help. These are things that work for me today; what may work for someone today may not work for them tomorrow.

Thank you for letting me share,

Kendra S.


Member: Christine B.
Location: Houston
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 17:48:22

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Hi I am Christine and I am an alcoholic. By the grace of God my clean date is 2-3-98. I know a lot about slipping if I would have stuck with my very first clean date I would have about 20 months instead of five and a half. What I have learned is when I slip it is God telling me to humble myself and ask for help, invest in winners of the same sex(no 13th stepping) and stick with the program and God with this we know we can get control back in our lives. If I can do it anyone can do it. Love you guys!


Member: Jason K.
Location: NAS Patuxent River, MD
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 21:06:06

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Hi I'm Jason, a 'real alcoholic'. This post is for Noreen, or anybody whom it may help. It is great that you are asking for help. A lot of alcoholics don't. My suggestion to you is simple: Don't drink today, get to an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, and pray. You don't have to beat yourself up for whatever mistakes you may have made. Get to a meeting and you will see how that feeling of being alone tends to disappear. One of the most important things to remember is to take things only one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow. Take care and God Bless.


Member: Craig D.
Location: UTOPIA
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 21:18:33

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CRAIG D. Alcoholic/Addict. Welcome newcommers. It works if you do. There's no better life. Avoid slipperly people , places, things. NEW PLAYMATES, PLAYGROUNDS, PLAYTHINGS.


Member: Robin B
Location: Idaho
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 21:37:55

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Hi I'm Robin and I'm an alcoholic. Noreen, I'm new to sobriety too, 60 days today. I just went to a meeting where a guy was celebrating his 28 year birthday...and he slipped when he had 16 years of prior sobriety! What that told me you never quit working the program, you have to take it one day at a time. What he said to his home group was they only get to fellowship with people who "slip" and come back... not the ones who let their pride and their fear block tem from admitting they are powerless. I've already met people who slipped many times until they finally admitted their powerlessness and truly embraced the AA program and really worked the steps. You have to have a sponsor too. It helps you stay sober and it helps your sponsor stay sober...it's a win/win situation. Go to meetings, make friends who have long term sobriety, it makes the whole process easier, less scary and it's a great system to keep you from slipping again. It's hard at first I know, but believe me, if you're just going to meetings every day and reaching out, God will help you find your way. God bless us eveyone!


Member: Mike C.
Location: OH
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 21:38:06

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Hi everyone, Mike C.,alcoholic, here.

Noreen's story sounds kind of familiar. I tried the counseling approach too. I would discuss the alcohol problem with the counselor, agree I should quit, leave her office, and go get drunk. Then I went to an AA meeting, found I was among a group of sincere people with the same disease, was able to talk honestly to them, and they really listened. Four days after that meeting, over a cold beer, it finally hit me, I am an alcoholic. That was when I "worked" step one and admitted I am powerless over alcohol. That was on 3/16/98, and I am still working the steps, attending meetings, have a sponsor, and staying sober one day at a time. I now have over 4 months sobriety thanks to a loving God & AA. So the only advice I will offer Noreen is get to an AA meeting soon.


Member: john b.
Location: n.j.
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 22:04:31

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jb alcoholic fellowship is the way. im a loner by nature, this program is, over time, changing that behavior. been in 26 months, thank god every day.


Member: Wayne B.
Location: Leander, TX
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 22:19:14

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My name is Wayne and I'm an alcoholic. This program really works. It's when I get complacent that I'm in danger of picking up old habits. So as a friend told me "come place your ass in a meeting. It's keeping me sober.


Member: DEBRA C.
Location: RICHMOND, TX
Date: 19 Jul 1998
Time: 22:44:40

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HI MY NAME IS DEBRA AND I AM A GRATEFUL RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND ADDICT. I JUST WANT TO LET ANY NEWCOMERS KNOW THIS IS AN AWESOME PROGRAM TO GET YOUR LIFE BACK IN ORDER! I FIRST THOUGHT THIS THING CALLED AA WAS A CULT. WELL IF IT IS I WANT TO BE A PART OF IT! LIFE HAS CHANGED SO MUCH. MONDAY, JUNE 20, 1998, I WILL BE MARRIED TO A WONDERFUL MAN NAMED BRUCE WHO I MET IN THE PROGRAM FOR 2 YRS!! WE WORK OUR OWN PROGRAM. AS I SAID EARLIER LIFE FOR ME IS GOOD TODAY. TAKE CARE TO EACH AND VERY ONE OF YOU AND REMEMBER WE ALL ARE MIRACLES AND GOD LOVES EACH ONE OF US THE SAME..1111111


Member: Pat M
Location: Alberta
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 00:34:00

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I I'm an alcoholic, I have been sober by the grace of God and AA for nelrly five years, they have been the best years of my life. I hae slowly been able to get ride of some of my selfishness, self pity. am able to think of others and most importantly to be there for others. May you all have peace and serenity


Member: Donna W.
Location: wpb fl, and Rockaway NJ
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 01:20:38

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Nooreen, I am an alcoholic and my homegroup is the Love faith and life group in wpb fl. I am visiting NJ until aug. 13. I would love it if you would call me and we could get together and go to a meeting. There are some great meetings around here. A really good group that I have found is called the week that was group. It is located off rt. 80, exit 27b. I can give you more detailed directions if you'd like. From what I understand, the intergroup office has moved to Union. Intergroup provides information on where meetings are in your area, and has AA literature. Some intergroups will even be able to help you get a ride to a meeting. I'm not familiar with intergroup in this area but calling intergroup would be a great start for you. You can find this number by calling information 411, and asking them for the number of intergroup in Union or it might be listed in plainfield still or try asking for the number for alcoholics anonymous. The phone book should also have these numbers. If you call you can probably find everything you need to stay sober. Staying sober is not hard, in fact it is very simple. I don't know what you have done in the past but I know some things that are sure to work. It seems strange that such simple things can produce lasting and continuous sobriety, but my own experience and countless others have proven it to be true. The first thing I would do it "Get a sponsor who has a sponsor who has worked the 12 steps from the big book of alcoholics anonymous." Most likely if you do this and take "her" suggestions you might also find lasting and continuous sobriety. Going to meetings everyday to find this sponsor is a good thing and getting lots of "womens" phone numbers would help.

Well best of Luck


Member: Ali C.
Location: California
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 02:33:51

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Noreen -- get yourself to at least 90 meetings in 90 days and at your first meeting get The Big Book. Look around, listen, find who has what you want and do what they do. Sound hard? Put one foot in front of the other and ask God to help.

I have no experience on relapsing, today, by the grace of God I have continuious sobriety. I have always felt I do not fear taking a drink. If I am at that point, the insanity of this disease will have already killed me if not physically, then spiritually, emotionally, mentally and every other way. When I came into AA my heart and spirit were broken. I was blessed with the willingness to do what was suggested by those who had what I wanted. Deep, healthy, spiritual sobriety. I worked the steps, went to meetings, got a sponsor, called people, and protected my sobriety at all costs. What I received in return cannot be measured and has built a foundation and a relationship with a higher power that has sustained me through many difficult times of all types. This program is not for those who need it. It's for those who want it. There are no guarantees, work hard and stay close to AA.


Member: LK
Location: WI.
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 03:15:54

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I am extremely happy to have found AA on the web. I work odd hours and can't find many late-night meetings. I have less than 30 days of sobriety, so I need all the support I can get. I get tempted every day by my cravings and people at work during closing time. The serenity prayer seems to work for me so far. I also have a great sponser. To any newcomers, keep going to meetings. It works if YOU work it. Thanks, and bless you all.


Member: Virginia
Location: Here                                                      
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 04:23:27

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My name is Virginia and I am an alcoholic. I give thanks to my higher power each day when I wake up. I didn't always believe I just practiced it until I came to believe. My prayer was simple, "please God, Help me not drink whiskey today". I haven't had a drink for eight years and I am a very grateful alcoholic. Don't drink, go to meetings, get a sponsor, work the 12 steps and trust God. You won't have to drink today.


Member: Bonnie C
Location: Seattle
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 07:11:28

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Hi extended family, bonnie/alcoholic here, (((ROOM-HUG))) Its so good to be here this AM, sober and clean ((noreen)) SLIPPING good topic, before I got to this awesome program my life was so screwed up, to the outside world by all appearances I had the American dream, married to a naval officer, 3 healthy children, a house overlooking the ocean in San Diego, a prestigous career of my own but I was miserable, the marriage had fallen apart 4yrs prior, the kids neither loved or respected me for I didnt love or respect myself, I felt like a fraud at work and had made an ass of myself at almost every company function that had booze or drugs, I had told people off that I definately didnt need to be telling off, I slept with people that I never intended to sleep with. the kids never could expect consistancy from me so they manipulated me at every turn and I could give a 3 hr lecture about peanut butter on a cupboard door because I just didnt know how to handle situations when they came up, I'd let a volcano inside of me build and then I'd blow. I'd have shame attacks the next day after "I'd done it again" remembering things from the night before and wonder how I'd gotten there one more time. sometimes I meant to get drunk, sometimes I only wanted to have one or 2 and surprizingly I could once in a while but I was never in control once I took that first drink, I didnt know how many I was going to have to have, when I first started drinking I threw up all the time, then I didnt throw up at all until the very last time I drank, sometimes I couldnt pass out, I'd drink myself sober, sometime 3 drinks is all it would take. I got tired of giving all my rights away, other people being in control when I drank or used. thank God I never killed anyone while I was drunk either with my car or anything else. thank God I never got arrested or put in an institution for the insane for sometimes I felt totally nuts. they told me at my first meeting that those are my yets. I dont have to go back out there to know that things arent made better by drinking or using or wondering if I'm an alcoholic. If I wasnt and alcohol had given me problems, I could just quit and never give it another thought, like if I were allergic to strawberries and just eating one would kill me, well, I wouldnt eat them, the fact that I wanted to drink kept me sober because that proved to me that I was alcoholic. alcoholism is the only disease that has a mental twist, it tells you that you dont have it and it WILL KILL you. sometimes I'd hurt so bad to have a drink that I would be in the middle of my livingroom with my arms wrapped around myself sobbing for I wanted to drink so bad, of course my head would be saying drink or you will die, drink and the emotional pain will go away, LIES! If you dont want to drink, you never have to again, a lady told me that at my first meeting 5/30/80, 18yrs ago and you know she was right, go to a meeting and when the topic of slips comes up you can state that you are a real alcoholic and dont need to experiment anymore. I am happy joyous and free today and drinking nor drugging is an option anymore, I am very active in AA at least 5 meetings a week, more sometimes. they suggested to me 90 meetings in 90 days, and dont drink in between, I went to a meeting or more a day for at least 5 yrs, I would have drank every day so I gave my sobriety at least a fraction of the energy I would have put into finding a drink, I only stayed sober 24 hrs at a time, and sometimes 15mins at a time at first. the lady who took me to my first meeting said read pages 60 thru 63 449thru452 and 83&84 in the big book daily and I did, i bought the Living Sober book also that helped, I got phone numbers of WOMEN not guys and called them, I can run my game on guys and they can run theres on me and AA is there for saving my life, this is not a game but a deadly disease, this lady also told me to introduce myself when they asked if there was anyone in their first 30 days or at their first meeting so they could get to know me. I was scared when i walked in those doors but they were so nice that that left me and I found people who for the first time in my life understood me. Noreen go experience your miracle my friend, a whole new life is waiting for you. Dear God please bless all who venture here, love and hugs, bon


Member: Andrea T.
Location: CT
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 07:46:51

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Nobody stays sober without taking the all important first step. And a large part of that is accepting that our way doesn't work. Our own thinking got us drunk and many other bad things. So we need the help of others - either the group at large or an individual who has been staying sober. Sometimes loners stay sober, if they rigorously keep coming and listening. But it is so much harder that way. When I was new I was told to call 2 women from the program every day. The first time I picked up the phone, it weighed a thousand pounds. The second time, only 500 pounds, etc., until I had developed the habit of reaching out to others. Then when I was stuck in stinking thinking, people were available to help me NOT self-destruct. I can't believe the difference having sober people in my life made then, and continues to make today. I have been sober for over 11 years. My life is beyond what my wildest dreams could have been when I first stepped through the doors of AA. And I have seen miracles occur in other people's lives. They can happen to anyone with the desire and commitment to recovery. There is much action to take and work to do, but slowly, step by step, we reap the rewards of our work. First I surrendered to the disease, then to the group, then to a sponsor, and finally to God. And then the miracles began. One of my favorite slogans is "Don't give up before the miracle happens". God bless and keep coming.


Member: Arnie G.
Location: British Columbia
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 13:59:55

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Hi,

I had many many slips in my first efforts at sobering up. I first came around AA meetings about ten years before gaining any real length of sobriety. All I can say is that you should never give up trying. You are always welcome to an AA meeting. Even with a raging hangover.

So just keep coming back. I found I would always end up back at AA meeetings because everthing else I had tryed simply didn't work for me. But in A.A. I knew people were staying sober and it seemed to be the only hope for me.

Now I'm 8 years sobe and still go to a lot of meetings, because I never want to return to that misery again. And I've found that it's true, so long as I don't pick up a drink today, I have a pretty good chance at a really wonderful life.


Member: sharon c
Location: so padre is TX
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 14:43:10

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I'm still not sure I like the term slip. I'm not a victim anymore. I pick up the next drink!!! I've been in AA since 1-82 and I've stayed sober this long by NOT picking up the next drink ....as long as I don't pick up, I have hope.


Member: Norm C.
Location: Calgary, AB
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 14:55:46

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This is my first time using the AA Meeting on the Web. I'd like to talk about change. I'm sitting in a technical school right now that I will be attending in the fall and I just actually can't believe it. By taking little baby steps I was able to attain a goal or a dream. This is far from where I was at a year ago. I just took my first year cake on the 13th and now I'm in a completely different city. I came from a small coastal city in BC but now I'm in a huge city in another Province and I don't know anybody. I have so many questions to ask but I can't really afford a million $ phone bill home. I'm not all that scarred because I believe that I have a somewhat firm foundation. I spent a year going to treatment, then moving into a safehouse and going to at least two meetings a day for many months. I only just began feeling the true meaning of fellowship when I left to come here and I'm glad for that because if I hadn't I probable would have been to scarred to phone the central office here and ask for a meeting in my area. Those little steps help me to get out of my fears because if I so choose to go to any lengths to stay sober then I have to take them. The consequences are far to much to handle if I were to get drunk. I like to write my thoughts out onto paper but I don't get a lot of feedback that doesn't seem like selfwill. However when I do write and I can see my own thoughts and the ways that I intrepret things it makes me happy to be human. I'm here in a new city and I have friends because I have the fellowship of AA. The little voice in my head tells me I wouldn't have brought you here and then abandon you. I felt the presence when I read the FOOPRINTS poem yesterday. I'd just like to know how some people handle the change when the have to leave everything familiar and start life fresh in a new town. Thank you for listening.


Member: chuck k
Location: twin cities MN
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 16:15:08

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Hi all chuck k and I am an alcoholic. The discussion is good to read about for there is not a cure for alcoholism. Not today any way. When I got here I was taught that the first step is the only step that can be worked 100%. the rest of them I can only do the best I can. Over the years I have watched a lot of people come and go. The ones that I have seen stay sober are the ones who have made the decision to try a different way. IT IS NOT EASY. No one ever told me it was going to be. To noreen STAY IN TODAY and go to a meeting. Try it for a while and don't leave before the miracle happens. YOU CAN DO IT. THAT GOES FOR ALL OF US. God bless, chuck k


Member: Doris
Location: Oregon
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 16:19:13

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My name is Doris and I am an alcoholic. Noreen: get a big bag of those red hot candies. The ones with the jelly on the inside. I ate those till I turned red. They helped. I, like I have said here before, thought about it and realized I was giving my body a jolt by taking away the booze. I was used to 1. flavor 2. huge amounts of carbohydrates 3. huge amounts of liquid. 4. the solace I got from the wine and any other thing I could find to drink that brought on the euphoria. So, I went to treatment and then meetings, ate candy like a child and traded the addiction to the wine to an addiction to GOOD coffee and other liquids. I have since cut almost all the caffiene out and most of the candy. I guess you would say I am well into recovery and as far as the slipping goes being immersed in the program is what prevented that. I hope you too can do something to immerse yourself. One more thing Noreen. Don't forget that you DID have that time sober. It is a BIG DEAL that you were able to achieve that and I want to congratulate you on that. You deserve credit for those days you DID achieve. They are not lost, you can do it again and I think you will. I also suggest you get a morning meditation book and read a page for the day. Being that much in thought on the program you choose to implement will help I think. GET A BIG BOOK and read it. Please. I have to be honost and admit that I have not slipped. I am grateful for that. But I have seen others that I have come to love a lot slip and die from it. A lot of others my friend. Please don't be one of those. It sounds like you have a lot to live for. Like they say, It will work if you work it. Go with God Noreen, Doris


Member: toni f.
Location: rockford, il
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 17:33:43

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Hi. I'm Toni, alcoholic. My experience with "slips" is: I could not stay sober until I had admitted to my innermost self that against alcohol, I had no willpower what-so-ever. I could stop...I just couldn't stay stopped. I just thought if I tried harder, or wanted it more, or if it hurt me enough...then I could stay sober. Surrender was a foreign word to me. Today, it just means that I honestly give up. I quit trying. If I can't give up, I quit trying to and I ask my hp to help me to give up.(if it's His will) That is always so scary when I first "let God", but it has NEVER failed me. I have let God keep me sober everyday since I finally gave up on beating this disease with willpower. Trying to quit drinking, for me, is working the first step. When I give up, I've worked it. Try it, Noreen. It works! Thank's for the topic.


Member: Jane
Location: Ma.
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 17:49:11

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Welcome, all! S.L.I.P. happens when: Sobriety Loses Its Priority. I like that one.

Norm, I moved away after 1 1/2 yrs. sobriety. Transition can be very tricky for us alchies but not impossible. Most important was that I joined a new group immediately and got active in service. Best way to feel "a part of.." is to greet folks at the door, make coffee, sell tickets if group does that, go on speaking commitments once /mo. etc. That's my ESH, anyway. I kept my old sponsor for some time because phone was not too costly, eventually got a local one, as well as lots of phone numbers. I tried to "stick with the winners". Hard at first to reach out, but heck, alcoholism KILLS so what's a case of nerves by comparison? LOL

Connecting immediately was a suggestion given to me and I see why: many of us fall quickly away. Same with leaving detox...

Happy first AA anniversary, Norm, and best wishes to you and Noreen too. Love to all, Jane


Member: Ramon P.
Location: miami,Fl.
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 19:25:57

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Hi everybody. Iam Ramon P. an alcoholic,to me and what I tell everyone "it don't matter where you are or how you feel just don't drink and go to meetings" and above all trust GOD and you are going to be allright. GOD bless all of you.


Member: graham y
Location: inverness scotland
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 20:07:53

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hi noreen, my name is Graham and i'm an alcoholic. it's a very brave step you have taken. asking for help to stop drinking. please contact aa in your local area there is nothing to fear. We aa's have all had to ask for help. you need never drink again make contact, it will work for you if you want it. I'm 3 years off it now and I couldn't go 3 days on my own. aa gave me the answer one day at a time. All the best!


Member: tom h.
Location: northern va.
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 22:00:54

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if you have ended up at the AA website and are not yet a member; you're probably not having a banner day. my first day in AA wasn't so great either. however, if drinking is or might be your problem, AA has the answer. you are a member when you say so!! don't drink,get a sponsor and go to meetings. work the steps. if your life isn't 100% better after a go through our twelve steps, we will refund your misery free of charge.


Member: Mike Ott
Location: Pontiac, Michigan
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 22:45:32

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hi......my name is Mike and I am an alcoholic..for me to take another drink would not be a slip....it would be losing life as I know it today......and then.....losing life.


Member: Mark M
Location: Eastern U.S.
Date: 20 Jul 1998
Time: 22:46:04

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I'm Mark, alcoholic, Noreen I feel your pain I went through the family situation for many years they wanted me to stop drinking but I could not stop. I never could have stopped for my family or anyone else until I found myself in a situation where I could not live with ME anymore. You see I was so self-centered that I couldn't consider a step this much out of character for anyone else but me. On the day of my last drunk, I drank a 12 pack to rid myself of the shakes and it didn't work-that scared the crap out of me enough to want to stop or die or whatever because my best friend for so many years(alcohol) had let me down. Driving my 6 year old around drunk as hell didn't stop me nor did my mother's or wife's crying. The only thing which made me ask God for help was when I could no longer live in my own skin. Since that day by the Grace of God and the Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous I have not had to take a drink. You are on the right track by sharing here Love all of you. Mark.


Member: mitch h
Location: so.cal.
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 00:37:28

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the most slippery place i ever been is in my own head, i have to get out my head by going to a meeting or calling someone or lending a helping hand to anyone aa or not itdos'nt matter. if i don't get into action iam just bragging in the quicksand alcoholics don't do good alone, somebody with lots of time in the program told me that washing dishes was pretty spiritual. god bless


Member: Mary
Location: seattle
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 00:43:40

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Hi, I'm Mary..alcoholic. To Noreen, LK and anyone else who is new...read all of this sharing and then read it again. There is a world of hope and truth in these pages. But reading it will only take you so far. I tried "white knuckle sobriety" for awhille boy, is THAT a miserable way to live. Getting sober isn't anything close to easy, but it sure helps when you are surrounded by people who have all walked in your shoes. These on-line meetings are fun - and it's neat to not have to try and remember what has been said - I jsut scroll backwards and re-read it! But NOTHING takes the place of face to face at a live meeting. If you don't like your first one (I didn't) then try another - and another - I guarantee there's a meeting for everyone. God bless you and keep you till we "meet" agan!


Member: Christine M.
Location: Bayville, NJ
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 01:17:11

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Noreen and other newcomers:

When I first got "sentenced" to AA thru the courts in Massachussetts I figured I had to go and do my "time" but did not want to stop drinking. I just wanted to stop blacking out and getting arrested. I started going to meetings (because I had to), knew no one, was totally alone, had no friends left, family would barely speak to me (and mother was/is an active drunk, tho' not as "bad" as me)to sum it all up, life sucked...started trying not to drink, not for some virtuous reasons, just to stay out of jail. I used to put a big red "X" on my calender on days that I didn't drink. I could only get three red "X"'s in row. I remember the week I got five! But drank over the weekend and then went back to the group that I had joined and had to change my sobriety date, and on top of that, if that didn't take guts owning up to the group secretary or whoever she was that I had drank over the weekend, I had to deal with that little b*tch's remarks "Listen, are you serious about this or what. I know you are here thru the courts. Are you gonna do this or not?" (Can you believe her?)

I made it thru the next weekend without a drink (that was a Monday, I think I smoked some pot, tho over that weekend) I changed groups the next Monday and made that my new sobriety date, September 24 or 25 (I can't remember which date) 1989. I haven't had a drink since.

Message, keep coming (first you have to go, tho) find the people and group that is right for you and don't let some "holier than thou" person knock you off track. I think maybe her nasty attitude towards me might have helped me stay sober that first weekend out of sheer determination.


Member: Barry M.
Location: Villa Grove, IL
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 06:55:54

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Hi everyone, my name is Barry and I'm an alcoholic/drug addict. Just thought I'd share this with you guys : Thursday 7/23/98 8PM Central "My Name is Bill W." will air on The Family Channel cable network. I'm pretty new to this program, have never seen this movie, and am excited. Gotta' go read my Big Book pages to start my day. See you guys around............I'll keep coming back and hope you do to!! Love to all Barry


Member: Therese
Location: Spain
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 08:13:53

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Hi Noreen. My name is Therese and I am an alcoholic and I can actually feel the love that everybody is sending out to you. I remember how lonely and lost I felt when I THOUGHT I was in control of my own life but woke up one day and realised I needed help. I did not realise at the time but that was the key that changed my life. The help I received was from AA. I would like to send you all my love and I would like to thank all the good people in AA for helping to change my life. God Bless, T.


Member: Wayne
Location: New York
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 09:08:01

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My name is Wayne and I'm an alcoholic. I first came into AA in 1989. I did not drink for 6 1/2 years. I went to meetings for 2 years constantly and then I started being dishonest and living a lie. Slowly I began to become more and more selfish. I started to cut down on meetings because I knew I wasn't living the right way. I eventually got drunk in march of 1996. I stayed drunk for five months and I was trying to justify it every step of the way.My higher power at the time [probation officer]thought it would be a good idea if I went back to AA. It took a while but I did eventually come to and was able to see what I was doing to myself and my loved ones. I've been back in AA now for 20 months and I know now that I have to be honest, open minded and willing to change.It is a disease that wants me dead but will settle for me drunk. One suggestion I would like to recommend is to open up yourself to spiritual principles, don't let predudice and self will deny you the life you were intended to live. Read the Big Book and help another alcoholic


Member: Martina G
Location: CT
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 15:33:36

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Hello, My name is Martina and I'm an alcoholic. The one thing that keeps me from "slipping" is to constantly and faithfully remember where I was and the constrast to where I am now. If I allow myself to remember the pain and count the blessing, it helps me when I am tempted. (This, of coarse, is besides going to meetings and practicing the steps.) For those who just slipped or are newly sober, forget the past as you can do nothing about it. Today is a new beginning. God's grace is bigger than your screwups. He can make all things new.

Noreen, thanks for sharing and remember that you have no control over your family's reaction to you any more than you have control over your drinking. Don't allow yourself to focus on how lousy you feel about it , as that will pass eventually. You have no control but you do have choices. All the advice here is great. If you follow it, you will be okay. One step at a time.

God Bless you.


Member: Lee P.
Location: Texas
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 17:18:59

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G'day to all.I'm Lee and I'm an alcoholic.My day of grace is 9/4/84,and I could write a book about slipping.I made my 1st. meeting in 1974 and I "slipped" for the next ten years.Idid not hit my bottom until 1984.Had to keep on doing it until I was totally whipped and ready to admit that I was powerless.Some of us have a higher pain tolerance than others,and some of us are just downright hardheaded!! It's hard to surrender,but surrender we must in order to let God work in our lives.


Member: Steve D
Location: NJ
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 17:25:22

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I'm Steve, a grateful alcoholic.

AA saved my life. I could not have sobered up without it and Lord knows I tried a lot to stop. I went to a psychiatrist, I went to a hypnotist, I tried Antabuse, I tried vitamins, I tried not drinking for 10 days, I tried not drinking more than three drinks per night, I tried only dinking wine, only beer, I called rehab centers and all the answers pointed to AA. The doctors told me to go to AA, the treatment centers told me about their programs and it included AA. I started going to AA, lied to myself the first time around, then after coming back knew that it was now or never. Thank God I hit bottom, and that I saw no other way out. "It is darkest just before the dawn".

Thanks for letting me share.

Steve D


Member: Wendy S.
Location: Bethel
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 18:28:12

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My sponser says there is no such thing as a slip, "Nobody slips into a can of beer" says she. I've been sober since 9/1/96 with God's grace. So far no slips. Came real close one time but the telephone saved me. Noreen, hang in there. Find a meeting to go to, get phone numbers, get a sponsor and start to work on the steps. I was real skeptical when I first came into the rooms and it took me a year to follow the advice I just gave you, but I can tell you for sure that my friends in AA, my home group and most of all my Higher Power who I found again through AA have all worked to keep me sober. Life is not suddenly perfect, life is still life and some days are bad and some feelings are bad but today I don't have to pick up a drink over any of that. You sound like you really want it, so you'll get it, just take it easy on yourself, one day at a time. One more thing. Don't do it for you family do it for you. Have a good week everyone. Love coming here.


Member: Terry,B
Location:
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 18:47:35

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My name is Terry & I,m an alcoholic. I,m finally sober & it's great not waking up with a hangover. I'm newly sober for the second time around. I simply thank God that I'm back to A. A. So for all of us that have slipped just continue to stay sober one day at a time.


Member: Chris A.
Location: Ft. Myers,Fl.
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 18:57:17

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Hi y'all, Chris sober by the grace of God. I don't believe in slips. I believe in choices. Today I choose to follow the suggestions of people who have been through exactly what I'm going through. By following their suggestions I can choose not to pick up today. If I know that other people are able to stay sober then I too MUST be able to stay sober if I do what they do. When I do what other AA's do the choice to not drink or use today is much easier than if I tried to beat this thing all on my own. The only way to find out what sober alcoholics do to stay sober is to attend an AA meeting. Get a sponsor. Fellowship with other alcoholics. Let God take it from there. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Blaise S.
Location: Denver
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 19:03:14

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my name is blaise and i am an alcoholic, sober since 2/25/91.The only thing i know about slippers is that they get drunk. there is a story in the BB about a guy named Jim. it talks about his life and what has happened to him because of his drinking and then it says he got drunk, "because he failed to enlarge his spiritual condition."(pg.35)

the whole point here is this:1.)first of all, i had to admit(not accept)the fact that i was truly powerless over alcohol. i did this by trying time after time after time... that i could control my drinking. each time was a worse failure to do so. 2.)i was done drinking. did not know if i would get and stay sober, but i was DONE! 3.)i had placed myself in a place where i was beyond human aid. those who tried to "get me sobered up" failed. 4.)i got willing to do whatever it took (go to any lengths) to stay sober. 5.)i work steps. at least once a year since i first got sober,i work the twelve steps of AA in their entirety, all 12. 6.)trust God, clean house, and go to meetings(the need to be around others who are bodily and mentally different from their fellows). 7.)pray, meditate and claim the Power of God.

it is a simple program. it is not easy or everyone would be sober and we would not have to discuss slipping. it is hard work. getting sober was the hardest thing in life. read the first 164 pgs. of the BB of AA, go to meetings, ask for help(a really hard one), don't drink, and pray.


Member: Rich B.
Location: Moorestown  N.J.
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 19:09:58

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I was told the only slip was under a ladies dress. You either drank or you did not drink, plain and simple. But I drank after 13 months of sobriety, I thought I was doing it all the right way, going to meetings I had a spounsor, I had a comitment, but I got in a fight with my girlfreind (now wife). She took off with my daughter to her mom's house, and I said I'll show her, I got drunk. I got the spins, I threw up, and I was hung over like never before. I learned an important message from that experience. I could not drink anymore if I wanted any type of normallity in my life. Alcohol controled me, I tell people that this was the best thing to ever happen to me, I realized that I could not never drink again. I learned from this mistake and took advantage of it. So if you did drink like me, and alot of other people, welcome back, go to a meeeting and listen to the other alcoholics in the rooms. Just to let you know my daughter is now 5yrs old and the light fo my life, I now have a 2 1/2 month old son, my wife will have 6 years sober in Dec., and I'll have 5 yrs in Sept., so it does work if you let it.


Member: JOHN MC
Location: HERTS ENGLAND.
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 20:26:37

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hi john mc here.i learned in aa that i had to think about a drink before i took it.the big book tells me i have to change my thinking(logical eh).how do i do that? find someone who has this solution(easier said than done)pp18 b/book,and do as directed.keep it simple.god helps those who help themselves(no that does'nt mean you can continue shoplifting)it works if you know how to work it(more logic)good luck Nooreen.


Member: Scott S
Location: Long Island
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 20:38:51

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This is my first time here. I am two and a half years sober. By the grace of GOD I haven't had to experience a relapse. I don't call it a slip. It's a relapse and it's not a requirement! It's a concious decision made way before you pick up the drink. You fall back down the steps just like you climb them. You're either moving toward a drink or away from one! I believe if I do what I'm told I will live happy, joyous,and free. Another thing , about these suggestions. It says that they are suggestions, like pulling the rip-cord when you jump out of a plane! For me it is do or die! The minute I don't listen I suffer. This is dangerous because it will lead to relapse, and for us "TO DRINK IS TO DIE!!!!!!!!!! it's just like that." So to who ever is reading this GOD bless and always remain teachable!


Member: Jo Ann
Location: Texas
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 20:42:42

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Member: Ray R.
Location: Florissant, MO
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 20:46:27

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My name is Ray and I'm an alcoholic. Thank You for asking about slips. As you read all the love in these sharings you know your not alone. We were all there,holding on day after day, wondering whats going to become of us.So lonely thinking nobody understands. I found someone that understands at the first AA meeting I attended. I found a bond there between us. I really wasn't sure what it was but it was there.I'm here today because of that meeting over two years ago. That first meeting is now my home group. I do today what my sponsor told me to do when I first came here. I go to meetings, read the Big Book and help others. My life is better today than its ever been. When someone comes back after trying to see if things have changed out there. I always listen to why, what happened after sometimes years of Sobriety they slipped??? The answer is always the same. They quit going to meetings and doing the things that kept them sober and happy. This is what a member of my home group told me he does. Go to meetings, get down on your knees every morning and ask God to be with me today and Thank Him/Her at the end of the day. Simple but not always easy, because we get in the way. Another person in our home group said that when your new all you need to know is line 8 on page 88 of the Big Book. Thats still all I need to know today. Lots of Love to My Family in AA Ray


Member: Bill w.
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: 21 Jul 1998
Time: 20:49:45

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Evening friends, I'm Bill and I'm an alcoholic. Noreen I have seen alot of very good advice here and wouldn't try to improve on it. I've "heard" Bonnie speak here and at the coffee pot and love what she has to say. Going to my first meeting was a big fear but i overcame that and haven't looked back. I didn't take a drink today and if i continue to do tomorrow what i did today chances are that i won't drink then either. I didn't quit drinking forever, just today. Do attend a meeting and get some phone numbers and finally a sponsor. God Bless.


Member: tony g
Location: ma
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 01:10:15

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hi all tony,an alcohol.ive been going to the same meetingplace for 5 mnths i keep my mouth shut and my ears open, i try to identifie not analize. but now people in the group are starting to ask why i dont talk and thier trying to give me thier phone #s and just being bothersome i dont mind meetings i need them but this is a pain im fine just listening maybe some day ill talk but not now ...is this the way its going to be??


Member: JoAnn B.
Location: Texas
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 10:10:36

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Hi, I'm JoAnn, an alcoholic-tried to leave a message last night, but computer crashed. I have been sober in AA for 21 yrs. and nary a slip as far as physically taking a drink, but there are slips and then there are slips-I've had many a "dry drunk" when I get off the AA beam and try to do it my way, such as forgetting that my Higher Power is in control of everything and I'm not supposed to try to run the show. I've been into a lot of complacency - after all I'm sober 21 years! But, that alcohol is still "out there" waiting patiently for me to forget Who is running this universe-not me for sure! Sobriety truly is one day at a time-today is a wonderful day because you great people have reminded me of these simple (but not easy) steps. Keep on keepin' on-I love you all. JoAnn B.


Member: JoAnn B.
Location: Texas
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 10:11:01

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Hi, I'm JoAnn, an alcoholic-tried to leave a message last night, but computer crashed. I have been sober in AA for 21 yrs. and nary a slip as far as physically taking a drink, but there are slips and then there are slips-I've had many a "dry drunk" when I get off the AA beam and try to do it my way, such as forgetting that my Higher Power is in control of everything and I'm not supposed to try to run the show. I've been into a lot of complacency - after all I'm sober 21 years! But, that alcohol is still "out there" waiting patiently for me to forget Who is running this universe-not me for sure! Sobriety truly is one day at a time-today is a wonderful day because you great people have reminded me of these simple (but not easy) steps. Keep on keepin' on-I love you all. JoAnn B.


Member: Michelle
Location: CO
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 11:23:30

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Tony G. There is such a benefit to sharing in meetings, and your group is being denied the gift you have to share with them. They care about you and are trying to help, not be bothersome. Alcoholism is a "we" disease, not an "I" disease. Keep coming back.


Member: John B.
Location: Lawrenceville GA.
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 11:28:22

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Hi I'm an alcholic and my name is John. This is my first time on the net and I find this exiting when i am at home with spare time to share with others. I believe the topic was on slips and i love the experience shared so far. As for me the process has been to smash the two ideas that I used to live with and they are the ability to control and enjoy my drinking, Since then my focus has been to keep clean within in order that the sunlight of the spirit may continue to flow. It has been a tall order but worth every moment of effort. Love John keep comin back!


Member: tony g
Location: ma
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 12:22:23

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hi, tony g alc. thanks for answering michelle, i think yourright.once i start shareing they probably wont be able to shut me up. anyway i just came from a meeting, no matter what dont be discouraged( i tell myself) its better in a.a. than on the street , dealing alone. did you ask your higher power for a little help today? may today be a good day.


Member: Sue S
Location: Illinois
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 18:57:53

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Hi- This is my first time on the Web. Seems interesting. I haven't been to a meeting yet but I have been sober 5 days now. I Thank the Lord. I plan on getting to a meeting in a couple of days. I am sure I will need the help. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: CCenter
Location:
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 19:25:03

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MY HIGHER POWER IS THE ONLY ENTITY I RELY ON NOT TO GO OUT THERE AND DRINK AGAIN, LIFE IS SOOO GOOD TODAY.I'd like to hear from alcoholics who are having a hard time with GOD, maybe I can help,I'm almost nine years in and go to alot of meetings here in No.Hollywood, at CHANDLER LODGE My E-Mail is ALANKLOHR1@prodigy.net. Any way this site I found through the Betty Ford


Member: CCenter
Location:
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 19:25:32

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MY HIGHER POWER IS THE ONLY ENTITY I RELY ON NOT TO GO OUT THERE AND DRINK AGAIN, LIFE IS SOOO GOOD TODAY.I'd like to hear from alcoholics who are having a hard time with GOD, maybe I can help,I'm almost nine years in and go to alot of meetings here in No.Hollywood, at CHANDLER LODGE My E-Mail is ALANKLOHR1@prodigy.net. Any way this site I found through the Betty Ford


Member: ALAN L.          
Location: ALANKLOHR1@prodigy.net
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 19:26:37

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MY HIGHER POWER IS THE ONLY ENTITY I RELY ON NOT TO GO OUT THERE AND DRINK AGAIN, LIFE IS SOOO GOOD TODAY.I'd like to hear from alcoholics who are having a hard time with GOD, maybe I can help,I'm almost nine years in and go to alot of meetings here in No.Hollywood, at CHANDLER LODGE My E-Mail is ALANKLOHR1@prodigy.net. Any way this site I found through the Betty Ford center. EVERY ONE HAVE A GREAT SOBER AND SAFE Day!!!KIHR


Member: Mark L.
Location: Seattle
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 20:26:10

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<Snip> Hi I am Christine, my clean date is 2-3-98. <end snip>

Hi everyone - Christine, your clean date is the same as mine. I really can't comment on slipping - I quit one day and never looked back. Treatment has helped, but for me I made up my mind that this was it. The things that I changed in my life were those things that revolved around alcohol or otherwise getting wasted. The change for me was pretty rapid, but don't get discoruaged if you don't think you're progressing fast enough - it's not a race and he who dies with the most sober days is not necessarily the winner.


Member: Eileen I.
Location: Conn.
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 23:08:56

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Hello, my name is Eileen and my clean date is 1/26/93 and God is the only one who knows how I stayed sober this long. I haven't been to a meeting in 3 yrs and I only have my friends, "If you pick up I'll beat the crap out of you" to stay sober. (i am little, they are bigger) Also, i am one to care about what others think of me, so people like me better now. Sometimes, I don't like me now, sometimes I miss the old me. But, something clicks and tells me if i pick up Ill loose alot of friends. I don't want to be without friends again.For any newcomers, stay close to the meetings and hang out with the same sex!!!! And most important stay close to God.


Member: Ms. B.J. McCall
Location: Miami, Florida
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 23:20:01

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I am an alcoholic. My name is B.J. and the subject is "slips", the one really sad thing in AA. Because I've seen a lot of my friends pick up again and die out there. So if you are fortunate enough to have made it back, get with your sponsor, or get another one (did you know you can more than one?) and START WORKING THE STEPS. I slipped after 3 mos.(for 3 days) & I did not pass Go nor collect $200 I made my next move count - I asked my group to help me find a sponsor with some TIME in the program; she had l5 yrs. of sobriety and her husband 20 something and the two of them worked with me STEP BY STEP. This was September, l969 & by the following month on Halloween (very appropriate), I did my 5th step and got rid of all the ghosts & goblins that caused me to slip anyway. Since then I have walked free, felt the Grace of God, and yes, I still do it ONE DAY AT A TIME.


Member: robert d
Location:
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 23:29:26

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hi my name is robert i am a alcolholic please give me the strength to make my self a better person my wife is very understanding but i do not want to lose her i love her god please give me strength


Member: Jim A.
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 23:41:21

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My name is Jim and I am an alcoholic. Noreen, you did something different by admitting that you are powerless over alcohol this time. When I was drinking, I would try to cover up for my actions that I took while on a binge. Today I don't have to live constantly looking over my shoulder for the next person or problem that is waiting to jump out and surprise me. Neither do you. By coming to meetings, reading the book, and taking the steps with the advice of a sponsor, I have been kept sober for four years as of Saturday. These simple things are all that I have to recommend- but they have worked for me and may for you too. Thanks for sharing and God bless.


Member: Shelton F
Location: Texas
Date: 22 Jul 1998
Time: 23:53:24

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Hi. My name is Shelton and I'm an alcoholic. I didn't have a chance to read all the stories, but the ones I did get to read (about half) touched me. I've been in the program about a week now. Two days ago I "slipped". I let my self-pity get in the way of going to meetings this last week. I was scared that I had let everyone down. Thank you Noreen for "choosing" this subject for the week. It's what I needed to hear.


Member: Christine M.
Location: Bayville, NJ
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 01:35:02

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Hi Everyone! My name is Christine and I am an alcoholic. I already posted on the subject of slips before but I just want to say to all the newcomers out there, Sue in Ill., and Shelton and any others I might have missed:

Welcome! When you get yourself to a meeting, don't be discouraged if it isn't for you... There are meetings out there for people with all kinds of interests. If you meet some people like I did in the beginning who questioned my sincerity when I first "slipped", then go talk to someone else!!! We need support in the early stages of getting sober, not someone who is going to beat us up (physically or verbally, Irene) if we "slip". I don't know about you but I look for love and support from my fellow AA's not analysis and badgering.

Keep coming and most importantly, don't leave before the miracle happens!!!!!

Irene, pls go back or go to meetings after 3 yrs sober and no meetings. I am in the same boat. Coming up on nine years sober and I haven't been active in the program since I was like 2, maybe, 3 years sober. I've moved around a bit and am now going back to meetings and trying to reconnect. I have a feeling the longer that you wait, the harder it will get.


Member: Charlotte B
Location: Mississippi
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 02:26:34

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I'm Charlotte, alcoholic and addict. Robert D, you can become a better person. You've already taken a first step by asking for God's help. Please call your local AA. The phone number will be in the book. Tell the person there what you shared with us. Someone will talk to you and help you get to a meeting. When you get to the meeting, let them know you are new and want help. Listen and follow the suggestions they offer. Get a phone list and a meeting schedule and use them. Don't drink, pray often, and go to meetings. Be honest, openminded and willing to change... I'm grateful you shared tonight. Come back tomorrow after your meeting and let us know how it went.

Relapse is not a requirement of the program of Alcoholics Anonymous and I'm grateful that I haven't made the choice to drink or drug since coming into these rooms. We get sober and stay sober through the grace of God and with the help of the fellowship and design for living offered by Alcoholics Anonymous. One day at a time.


Member: LT
Location: ct
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 04:41:58

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Picking up a substance is not the beginning of a slip it is the end of a slip. AA tells us that resentments are the number one killer among us,not not alcohol or the like.


Member: LT
Location: ct
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 04:42:27

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Picking up a substance is not the beginning of a slip it is the end of a slip. AA tells us that resentments are the number one killer among us,not alcohol or the like.


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 09:01:07

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Early sobriety was especially difficult for me because I didn't have any tools to deal with all of the suppressed emotions that were returning. The best I could do was hang out with sober people and pray a lot. If you're new, find a sponsor and work the 12 steps as soon as you can. Going to meetings is great, but the tools for living are in the program of AA, and the program of AA is the twelve steps.


Member: Mark L.
Location: S.I.
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 11:27:36

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Hi, Mark Lerner,Alcoholic, I just would like to share a bit about the State Convention I went to this past weekend. Hi Steve, miss talking to ya! I orginally had 2 people going with me on this convention,1 was my sponsor. I get resentments real quik He made a statement saying "this is becoming more than its worth." I don't think you have the right to make that statement unless you have been there before. Anyway I had lost my ride up there. I decided to call a few of my friends and see if I could get a ride. What happened was that I had called 5 people up. Don't you know that I was offered 5 rides. What a great program. I get up there early Friday and all hell breaks out. ALot of people in the program arguing & fighting. Well I went to check into my room and lo and behold the room I had was suppose to be 2 queens,1 roll-out. Do you think I had that? No way!. But God works in strange ways. The room had a king size bed, I was to be alone and didn't even know it.So everytime someone was fighting I just went up to my room,(this gave me alot of gratitude and peace that I was alone.) I went up there expecting to sit back and relax(God laughed at that). I ended up doing service, took a coffe commitment,help with registration and was very grateful to do so. Alot of people from S.I. did. I went to 3 BIG MEETINGS and a wonderful banquet. Ended up going to Alcothrons all day and night. Shared my experience ,srength and hope. Went to a hospitatity room where 6 or 7 OLDTIMERS sat and talked about what A.A. was,what it should be and what it is now.(changed my outlook a whole lot). The SOBRIETY among them varied from 39 years to 16. They let me share and thanked me which I was grateful for. I got 2 phone numbers and addresses from them where they are willing to come to S.I. to share.I just can't say enough about the people in this program. One last thing for now is that they also audio taped the big meetings so if anyone is interesting in hearing these just let me know and we can work it out. A couple of these speakers were just down right OUTRAGEOUS!!!

Thanks for letting me share

Yours in the Felowship

Mark


Member: Steve D
Location: NJ
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 13:53:37

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Hey all, Steve, a grateful alcoholic.

Mark, sounds like some of the people at the convention may have moved on from this website...It sounds like you had a fulfilling time. At a meeting last night, I heard that "You get out of the program what you put into it". Commitments like the one you made keep us busy. Sitting around, not talking, judging other people (like I do all too often) get me in trouble and stand in the way of true growth. And lead eventually to a slip (Sobriety Loses Its Priority).

Thanks.

Steve


Member: FURRY
Location:
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 16:34:52

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hi all i'm Ken,acholic this is not the worst illness in the world.after surviving liver cancer, heptitis C. andnd a liver transplant. acholism is not bad at all. i have choices aa is my illness and cure thanks to GOD&AA


Member: FURRY
Location:
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 16:35:32

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hi all i'm Ken,acholic this is not the worst illness in the world.after surviving liver cancer, heptitis C. andnd a liver transplant. acholism is not bad at all. i have choices aa is my illness and cure thanks to GOD&AA


Member: Harry K
Location: NM
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 16:54:22

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Hi, I,m Harry and grateful to be a sober alcoholic. I haven't had to take a drink since 4/85 when I received my first gifts of willingness. I sought an easier and softer way. THIS IS IT! I had made feeble attempts to learn how to live sober about 3 years earlier. It didn't work for me because I was too different. The suggestions did not apply to me. I was special. Terminally special! When I finally became willing to see what I have in common with other alcoholics the journey of AA recovery could begin. I stopped looking for the differences between me and "those wet brained, cliche ridden alkys" and began seeing the important things I have in common with all AA's.... the "wet brained" became my mentors. Simply, my HP allowed me to understand their wisdom. I could finally see that they had what I wanted. From that day to this - in spite of lots or trouble and pain - I haven't had to drink. My belief today is that I CAN live sober for the rest of my life. IF!!! If I do what AA has taught me to do daily. If I ask for God's halp. If I give thanks. If I pray for knowledge of His will for me and the power to carry that out my Faith tells me that I don't have to drink. I pray today that I be lent that power and strength that keeps me sober one day at a time. Thanks, God! And, thank you for being here with me today.

Love,

Harry


Member: Elizabeth G
Location: Austin, Texas
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 20:43:01

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I am Elizabeth Gonzales, an alcoholic, sober since 12/30/89 and I'm truly grateful. Those of you interested in seeing the" Bill W Story" it's showing tonite at 8 Central Time. I saw it in early sobriety and enjoyed it. Your can catch it on cable "Family Channel" Enjoy!!


Member: VIRGINIA B
Location: SW FLA
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 21:34:07

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dear dear all, How blessed you each and all are to share your experience strength and hope with me today. And especially with the folks having some difficulties. I joined your/our fellowship in l964, am 83. For three or four months after coming to you I drank occasionally again but never stopped attending meetings, even hungover. It finally occurred to me with the help of reading the BigBook, my sponsor, many meetings, that I had not SURRENDERED. I was still trying to run my own show. I did not know how to let go and when I asked my sponsor she said only God would do that part too. I should only ask or in effect say the third step. I was on the telephone with her at that moment and we said the third step together. I have continued to do that simple letting go each day, and sometimes during the day when some issue causes me some discomfort. I only have to elicit my HigherPower and I am IN PEACE at once.

I am thrilled to find y ou beauties on my computer. Thank you each and everyone for sharing your sobriety with me, so that my sobriety is one more time reinforced. InLove and profound peace, and grateful sobriety, not one moment for which I am responsible. Y ou and my HigherPower have done it all, Virginia B., swflorida.


Member: Kathy M
Location: WVa
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 22:22:30

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Hi, I'm Kathy, cross addicted. First time I have visited. Really great to finally hear from other people in recovery. I live in a remote area and there are no meetings here. With the help of my higher power, I have 20 months of soberity! To Noreen, I have been in recovery for over 3 years and have had my share of "slips" and the last one was last year. It almost ruined my life. But each time I picked myself up and started again. What they say is right, every time you go back out there it gets worse. I don't think that I want it to get any worse then it has so I am so glad to have found this site. It really helps to share with others who has "been there and done that". Great site, thanks for letting me share.


Member: Bill W
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: 23 Jul 1998
Time: 23:34:25

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Good morning all. I'm Bill and a grateful alcoholic. For the past four night I've read everything at least once and the more I read the more I got out of it. Noreen you have been very important in my sobriety because it shows the programme of AA works. Lots of love here. I use a company computer and this is my last shift until next Monday but will think of everyone meanwhile. A hug for rvryone and I wish you all a contented sobriey, one day atn a time.


Member: gary mb.c, can.
Location: B.C. Can.
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 01:21:40

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hi,my name is gary.i,m an aicoholic in b.c. can. haven,t been to a meeting in weeks. I have 9 yr,s clean and sober.things haven,t been great lately ,more fear then faith.just need someone to talk to or find a meetingnot great typer or speller.Left school early,you know the rest.Anyway thought i,d try this


Member: Dana D.
Location: Tulsa
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 10:28:33

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Hi,my name's Dana & I'm an alcoholic and addict. Thank God for this meeting! I've been working some really weird hours, and meetings have been VERY hard to come by. It doesn't take long, and the lack of maintenance begins to show...THANK YOU for being here. Noreen, the main thing is that you're back and are reaching out. I find that it's not the quantity of time that determines how sober I am...it's the QUALITY of time that determines that. There are many tools that this program has given me to maintain a sober (as opposed to dry) existence. 1) I had to get a sponsor. (it took a while for me to do this because of an intense fear of rejection, people,..etc. But someone told me that fear is the opposite of faith, and that the two cannot occupy the same space at the same time.) 2) I had to be willing. (willing to do whatever it took to stay clean...much to the same degree that when using, I was willing to go to any lengths to get messed up.) 3) I had to physically get up and GO to a meeting. (Nearly every major city has an AA Central Service listing in the yellow pages. They can provide information on meeting times and locations) Hang in there, Noreen, a slip isn't the end of the world. You just weren't finished with your "story" yet. Everything happens for a reason. When things happen, I find it's usually because there's something I'm supposed to learn from it. I also find that it's equally true that if I don't learn the lesson the first time, I'll more than likely have to endure similar experiences until I've learned whatever it is that my Higher Power wants me to know. Some lessons are harder than others.

Thanks for letting me share. Thanks again for being here.


Member: Patricia. O.
Location: Mississauga
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 10:50:11

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Hi My Name is Patricia and I am an alcoholic. I need to get to more meetings, I have moved from Ottawa to Mississauga and would like to meet new people in my life. I have been in the program for 4 years and I am grateful for this program. I live in Mississauga now. Would anyone be around this area and email me back. Would love to hear from you. I enjoy the closed meetings. Thanks. Patricia


Member: Patricia. O.
Location: Mississauga
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 10:50:52

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Hi My Name is Patricia and I am an alcoholic. I need to get to more meetings, I have moved from Ottawa to Mississauga and would like to meet new people in my life. I have been in the program for 4 years and I am grateful for this program. I live in Mississauga now. Would anyone be around this area and email me back. Would love to hear from you. I enjoy the closed meetings. Thanks. Patricia


Member: tony g
Location: ma
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 12:25:57

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noreen, thinking paterns,attitudes, behaviors those lead to slips theyall point t lifestyle changes


Member: Stacy
Location: OKIELAND
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 18:14:35

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Hi, I'm Stacy, alcoholic. Wow, on slipping. a recently fimular subject for me. I was sober for 2 years and 2weeks. Only slipped for a night...It was very bad very quick. Anyway I was charing a marathon meeting at our state conf. the night before the relapse. Seems funny to me now at 2mths sober. I'm positive more will be revealed about this but, I do feel part of my problem was failure to be completely honest with myself. As a typical alky, it was not my intention to get drunk. I believe that the slip started way before I actually drank. The drink is cunning, baffling and powerful. I have for the most part gone to meetings, called my sponsor, worked the steps and even had the great fortune to pass it on. Allof these thing will greatly inprove your sobriety! I was having trouble growing along spiritual lines, making that contact. I was getting very depressed, self-loathihg (a favorite charter defect) and just feeling like, "If this is being sober I might as well drink (my disease talking) and really feeling like I was missing out on this spiritual stuff. Jealous even of Bill's "white-light" experience. Well kids, be careful what you pray for! The slip was the best thing I could have gotten, spiritually. Previous to this, I wanted to die again. Ialways hoped drinking was a better alternative. I know drinking leads you to death and I was really at that jumping off place 2 years ago. Well, found myself right back there sober. It really goes to show me alcohol was not the problem..A.A. and the God who I don't understand is. So There I was drunk someone was trying to kill me. I was beaten for at least 2hours, I finally asked this attacker to just go ahead and kill me. I that moment I realized that I didn't want to die. I started screaming (Ihad been screaming help) "God I want to live!! Ialso started praying "Thought I walk through the Valley of death I will fear no evil." Who knows why, I was scared, drunk and begging for my life. Guess I must of heard it a funeral. Another hour went by and this guy continued to tellme how he was going to kill me and no one would ever find the body etc. He just stopped. He said, "I'm going to llet you liv because I love you." I'm thinking what a sick ****. The next day I was telling my sponsor the story, and I got goose bumps all over when I told her about " I'm going to let you live because I love you" I realized at that point that that was God talking to me. Well, I believe it and that's what matters. See this guy was a live-in boyfriend, from the program. He was not with us when he was beating me. Blacked out in rage plus tequila. Anyway my message is this...Remember that if you fail to inhance your spiritual life you may not have one. God works on his time, not Stacy's. Alcoholics are the masters a LOOPHOLES. I figured a way to not look at my relationship stuff via the loophole. So I have a different sobriety date, I have a chance to actually LIVE and what a gift that is. It was unmerited devine intervention. The grace of God keeps me sober....not all the "look good things" that I do in the program. I know that service work , 12 stepping, going to meetings, working the steps and allthose simple suggestions we get are what help keep me sober. So I guess what I'm getting at is the motive for doing things in the program, for me, was about ego. Not for free and for fun! I'm ready to have some fun, live life, be open minded, willing and honest. So I hate it when people talk this long in meetings. Especially when they do a mini 5th step and talk about "outside issues". Sometimes we become what we hate. Maybe now I understand why people have to ramble in meetings. I really appreciate you all keeping me sober today. Love and Light, Stacy.


Member: Roger R
Location: Ct.
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 21:21:32

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Staying sober is the easiest and toughest thing I ever did.Realizing I had a prob- lem with booze was the begining of a brand new life for me,allthough I felt very uncomfortable at meetings I kept going even if I felt terrible,I like everyone else who stays sober for a long time now know that the only way to stay sober is meetings,and more meetings.


Member: susie h.
Location: south florida
Date: 24 Jul 1998
Time: 23:06:36

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member: susie loc:south florida july 24, 1998 time 21:50

my name is susie and thanks to god i have only one white chip. i also have to give thanks to everyone who goes out , comes back to tell me how bad it was for them, how they lost time ( the least of value because all any of us have is today). i hear them tell how they lost themselves, family, their God, self esteem, hope and faith that this process does work. Harry said it earlier, AA IS the easier softer way and all we have to do is ask our higherpower for a little courage and guidence and then allow him to help. I do have to remember God doesn't wear a watch and all things happen in his time not mine. Oh i forgot to say that I am an alcoholic and an addict. I have just come up against some stuff that finally brought me to my knees and then i felt that godstinct, peace in the midst of turmoil. You people told me it would happen and i'm slow cause it took me just over 5 years to hit my knees and i have found it to be one of the most comforting places I have ever found. I know I have roamed off the topic, but jeez, I'm an alcoholic so what can we expect. This is also my first time here and that is just one more tool in my ever growing bag. thanks for letting me share and keeping me sober tonight.


Member: Judy S
Location: Jackson, AL
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 02:44:43

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hi y'all! JudyS., alcoholic Day #349 off to an EARLY start! Saw this at the AA-club house in Mobile (that's MAW-beel), Ala. "a S.L.I.P. is when Sobriety Loses Its Priority." Not sure if that quote is from our big book or what. But it got ole Judy-S. right between the eye-balls!/// I can't say I slipped. Instead I screwed around and fooled myself for 10 AGONIZING years! God bless you Noreen K in NJ and all others who shared their experience with me in this meeting.


Member: Ted B.
Location: Montreal
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 08:35:43

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Slipping is a great topic. I slipped a couple of times after reasonable lengths of abstaining from drinking (18 and 14months, respectively), but in both instances, I was trying to do it MY way - few if any meetings and lip service to the AA way of life. Since I came back 17 months ago, did 90 meetings in 90 days, got a sponsor and a home group, got involved in REAL service and continued to attend meetings on a regular basis, I began to get a taste of real sobriety. I have to take the whole package - I can't just put down the drink and expect life to get better without making the other requisite changes. It took a while for me to come to grips with that, but better late than never. I'm grateful that I was given enough chances to see the light.


Member: Ted B.
Location: Montreal
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 08:57:10

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Whoops. Forgot to say my name is Ted and I'm an alcoholic.


Member: Ed S.
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 11:26:15

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I'm an alcoholic and my name is Ed. Great topic. I'm fairly new on the net and have been sober in the fellowship (this time) for just shy of 10 years, a day at a time. I'm glad I had relapse because it showed me that my problem is not alcohol. My problem is my selfishness, self-centredness and fear. Alcohol is just the symptom. And it's alcoholISM, not alcoholWASM. I have found that I have NEVER had a drink on a day that I prayed. I have had a drink on a day that I haven't prayed. I don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure that out. I just try to do what the happy, useful and contented people do, and I get the same results. When I don't, then I get my old, familiar results. God bless to all of us, and remember, it's far easier to stay sober than to get sober.


Member: Bob E         
Location: Jensen Beach, FL
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 12:12:43

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Today I've been sober for more than 20 years, but before that I had multiple relapses. No need for a long hx about them, simply that I coldn't stay sober because I wasn't WILLING to follow directions, or suggestions or whatever you wat to call it. That's been a problem for me all my life, even before I started drinking. Those suggestions included getting some kind of Higher power, AS I UNDERSTOOD HIM; when I became willing, everything stsarted falling into place, I could take the action, but I had to trust the outcome to God. I'm grateful today for everything my HP has given me, taken away from me and left me, cause I sure as hell don't know what I need - and as long as I trust that process, I'm ok.


Member: Paula Z
Location: Mexico City
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 13:39:11

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Hi everyone! I'm Paula and I'm an alcoholic. 4 months sober by the Grace of God. English is not easy for me but I just wanted to thank everyone who has shared. This kind of meetings help me very much because in my group there are no women. Slip topic is very important for me because I've seen 3 fellows have a relapse since I came to AA. For those newcomers, I can tell you that this program really works. When I get to AA I had no friends, no job, have lost my family, have no life. Now I have not only that but also I have the most beautiful thing in the World: I have God's love and I have myself back. Thanks for letting me share and great 24 hours for all.


Member: patrick bfulton
Location: fulton n y u s a
Date: 25 Jul 1998
Time: 15:07:22

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sdob 8 27 58 i hold that bill was in error tocall our affliction aproblem with a solution1 .aa is now a doomed subculture of substance dependent persons.i have logged over 10'000 meetings in north america and europe 78-84.recovery has it is voiced today is a counterproductive indoctrination that sets tou up for doom.thus AA is in a massive failure mode

manumisson is a decades old medical term i would revive around which shared experience could accrete to frutify multi-decade manumissions such as i

affirm.


Member: 007
Location:
Date: 26 Jul 1998
Time: 02:26:20

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hey manumissionman take a hike