Member: Chris
Location: NS
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 6:58:23 PM

Comments

How about gratitude!


Member: laura
Location: mass
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 7:10:32 PM

Comments

Hi my name is laurie I can't believe I'm the first ! I really just wanted to read what other peoples comments were. I had a birthday party for my 80 year old grandmother everyone is gone know and it went great, but i'm fealling very alone and like I need another drunk to talk to i dont know what to do with my self and Ihate tv so I gess my topic is about the transmishion line between two drunks and what makes it work some how it alway makes me feel better. not know there is none here got to go make a call. laura


Member: ????????????????????
Location: ????????????????????
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 7:17:58 PM

Comments

Is the topic gratitude or the transmishion (((transmission))) line between two drunks ?????


Member: Linda S.
Location: Sandhills
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 7:36:39 PM

Comments

The topic is gratitude and I am very grateful to be alive and sober.


Member: Charlie Darling
Location: Key West Fl
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 7:40:49 PM

Comments

Hi family, Charli Darling a very gratful recovering alcholic, and the topic of grtatitude is always my favorite, as I have to have gratitude everyday or I know I will pick up. Yes I had a rough day at work on friday, and was beating myself up about it, as I knwo it was my committee going off in my head to cause me to blow up the way I did, and I spoke off to another Alcholic who only has a few months, and I felt bad about it, but the tools of the program told me what to do next, I told them at work to take the job and shove it, and swore alot, and this is the first time I have had this reaction in over 4 yrs, as I didn't like myself at all back then, and wasn't to happy about it on friday either. Well I rushed home on my bicycle, and felt like the wicked witch in wizard of oz just a peddling as fast as I could, and the first think I did was pick up the phone, and called another alcholic, which was better than a drink, and I was close to it, after that call I called the president of the company, and explained the whole situation, and that it was my fault, she was happy about that I would own up, and she asked me what the supervisor did, and I said he sat there with a smile on his face, so I told her I had to appoligize to the other, and she said you take care of that and I will talk to the super, as he should have pulled me aside, and try to calm me, and talk to me. But.... What can I say he is an active drinker, and waits everyday for Happy Hour, but that keeps it green for me. I am gratful that I am able and capable of doing the next right thing, I called another alcholic, got my job back, and I appoligized to the person I had words with, and today that is gratitude of growth on my part. I knew I needed rest and was stubborn (Tarus) So I slept for a straight 12 hours, and the day it happend when my partner got home and found out, he said lets get haircuts, and something to eat, and then he said let go it will be handeled, I gratful he is understanding of my program, and knows what I need to do, when I get that way.But today most of all I am gratful that I did not pick up a drink, but instead picked up the phone, so I will keep coming back, as it only works if you work it. I Love you Thank you for letting me share kwduke@keysdigital.com


Member: Mike V.
Location: Nampa, Idaho
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 8:03:42 PM

Comments

Howdy all! I've been thinking about how greatful I am for the gifts god gave me.


Member: steve k                               
Location: swan lake  n y
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 9:09:05 PM

Comments

hi i am steve an alcoholic. this is my first time doing this. i feel very greatful to be able to express my feelings this way. i have been sober for 8 months and i thank god every day for this. thanks for letting me share.


Member: Karen B.
Location:
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 9:18:03 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Karen and I'm an alcoholic. I am very grateful to have gotten through this weekend without wanting a drink. I am also grateful for the people who are helping me with my need and desire to be sober. Thank you all for letting me share.


Member: Donnie M (DOS 3-1-99)
Location: Short Gap, W.Va
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 10:02:09 PM

Comments

Hi, to all I`m Donnie and I am a alcoholic. Thank`s chris for this topic. Gratitude today is for me first of all I thank God for getting me through all the shit I put myself through. I also have to thank my family for standing behind me while I straightened my life up. I also have to thank every person in AA for listening to me sit around and bitch and moan about how much I wanted a drink. My sponsor and best friend (someday`s) has to be on my list because he would listen and advise me how to live this life I never would have never thought possible just a few year`s ago. So, that`s enough from me thank`s for letting me share and I truly want to thank everybody that understand`s just how hard it really is . GOD BLESS ALL.


Member: Bob W.
Location: Iowa
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 10:30:07 PM

Comments

I had been sober for 17 years and "slipped up" this week. I am grateful that my wife caught me, and did not throw me out! I am so grateful for a loving family, and good friends who support me and forgive me. But, most of all, for a loving forgiving God that loves me inspite of all my sins and screw-ups!!


Member: Adam H.
Location: Nagano, JAPAN
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 10:44:03 PM

Comments

Adam, alcoholic.

I heard people say that the amount of serenity they have in sobreity is equal to the amount of gratitude they have for what's in their lives today. I guess that's my goal in sobriety....being grateful for what I have today. I have a lot in sobriety...self-esteem, dignity, memory (I know where I was when I woke up this morning and what happened before then!), and a sense of family and friendship. And best of all...I have a reminder that if I didn't go to the liquor store, it's a miracle. That's A LOT to have in sobriety, and God and AA have made that possible. I hope I can be grateful for these things from one day to the next, and that as a result I may enjoy serenity.

It's really important that I make that list of what I am grateful for...my anniversary is coming up in a couple of days. 5 years on the 28th if I don't drink...and with the help of AA and God, I hope to see it!

Grateful to be alive and sober.


Member: Joy K.
Location: MI
Date: 6/24/01
Time: 11:23:41 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Joy and an alcoholic.

If I keep and attitude of gratatude going in my life, then the stinkin thinkin doesn't have room. It is rather selfish, but as the saying goes it's a selfish program. I am so very gratefull to be here at all, and sober besides. What a miracle. I have just lost both of my jobs, but I am sure there is a reason. God does not shut a door without opening a window. I am grateful for the opportunity to learn and grow. Before 12 steps I would have been drowning in pity and booze, and that's an ugly place I want no part of today, and for that and so much more I am grateful. Thanks


Member: Jen B.
Location: California
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 12:14:37 AM

Comments

Hi gang, Jen here, alkie. I don't feel tremendously grateful at the moment, all the more reason to realize all I have to be thankful for. 110 days sober and a multitde of people who support me in my snivelling. ;) Thanks for being here and for a great topic.


Member: Bob H
Location: Pa
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 12:30:30 AM

Comments

My name is Bob and I am an alcoholic. Tonight a GSR from our area wrote a column in our soberity News letter that really bothered me. It targeted our group. The articule she wrote stated that it is a break in tradition 4 for a group to vote to open a closed meeting. Our group has always given ourselves the liberity of doing this in the event a member bring a child to the meeting. Or if an outof towner and their spouse (non AA) happened to arrive at our meeting. We would simply take a vote to open the meeting. Understand they couldn't share but we would welcome the visiter non the less. Are breaking any tradition?


Member: Michael B.
Location: AZ
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 1:00:20 AM

Comments

Hi! My name is Michael, and I am a recovering alcoholic and addict, sober today only by the Grace of God and the Fellowship. Welcome newcomers! Thanks for the sincere shares!

It seems as if no matter how bad my day goes, I can always be grateful for my sobriety.

The sponsor I had when I lived "Back East" suggested I make a gratitude list every night, and I have done my best to take his suggestion. Invariably, my sobriety always appears at the top of this list.

I recommend that all newcomers make a gratitude list each night. It's been invaluable to me throughout my sobriety.


Member: bugaboo bob
Location: my box
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 1:12:59 AM

Comments

my yransmission went out in my old buick


Member: Jeannie C
Location: DFW Tx/
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 4:36:24 AM

Comments

Hi I'm Jeannie and a Very greatful recovering alcoholic. I just celebrated (birthday night tonight) 16yrs sobriety. And I sure don't know how I did it. I had taken a 2 1/2yr sabatical away from AA. Many excuses and lots of nonsense. And I almost drank and got totaly messed up. I got very suicidal around the beginning of May. And somehow, by the grace of God. Walked into an AA meeting. I still don't hardly remember doing it. But the group I joined just wrapped their arms around me and have been the most loving bunch of drunks I have ever met. YUP I'm doing many meetings and reading the BIG BOOK. And it's so funny how good that book is now to me. I even got one heck of a sponsor. She is so great.But that's why I'm so greatful. Glad I found this sight too. It's my first time here.


Member: Jim C.
Location: Stanford
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 7:48:55 AM

Comments

Jim, an alcoholic. I work the graveyard shift (midnight to 8:00 am). I don't have a car. And where I live is not convenient to getting to very many meetings. So, I would have a lot of "gratitude" if some of you would send me your e-mail addresses and/or phone numbers. Mine is Jimbo@SLAC.Stanford.EDU. I,m lookimg forward to hearing from some of you.


Member: val h
Location: Warrington, PA
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 8:31:41 AM

Comments

Val. Alcoholic.

I too, keep a gratitude list. I attempt to do it every night. I find that if I focus throughout the day on things to jot down on my list, there is little room for self-pity.

I am struggling every day with the obsession to drink. I have ten and 1/2 months sober through the power of prayer. In my Sunday step meetings, I have noticed that in steps 4 through 6 it says that the obsession will be lifted after one thoroghly cleans house. I will be starting my fourth step soon, and pray that this merciless obsession will be lifted.

Anyone who has any insight or feedback, please write to valh63@hotmail.com.

Thanks for letting me share, and peace, encouragement, love to all.


Member: AndyM
Location: w.Pa
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 10:40:24 AM

Comments

Bob H I dont see any problem here as long as the group conscience of that group votes to change the meeting.The 4th tradition states "Each groupshould be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or AA as a whole." that says it all for me, unless this person has good reasons not to change,if that is the case he can make his views known in the group conscience,and then the group will decide.I am interested in this could you email me at irish@shol.com


Member: Ray B
Location: Chicago
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 11:43:37 AM

Comments

Hi group, Im Ray and I'm an alchoholic. Gratitude! I am greatful that I am sober today, and I am greatful for my family. I am also VERY greatful that God and the program helped me stay sober thru the weekend, which was VERY tough due to a family party.


Member: Sherri L
Location:
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 12:55:39 PM

Comments

Hi my name is Sherri and I'm and alocoholic. Yes more than anything in this world today I am grateful to be alive,sober not to be sick ,alone and hurting any longer from the pain of the drink


Member: Joe L.
Location: Phila.,PA - USA
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 1:41:16 PM

Comments

Good Afternoon All; My name is Joe and I'm definitely an alcoholic. I used to know a guy in A.A. named "Charlie the Cab", and he always said "Gratitude is Attitude". Have you ever noticed how some people say the same thing over and over? Anyway, Charlie was a happy guy and I always wanted what he had - a positive attitude. I'm convinced some of us are more positiver than others. I am grateful though, for A.A., God and You... Have a good one. Peace, Out - Joe L.

LeachFtown@aol.com


Member: sherri M
Location: S.Texas
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 2:47:25 PM

Comments

Hey all......trying to get out of a "funk". I know damn good and well that I am an extremely fortunate lady that has a fantastic family/life in general and enjoy soboriety going on 6 years now. Truly.,I feel as though I have an angel,lots of them that watch over me.dealing w/MY life is always good. I think my problem is expectations of others.My ol' man is really beginning to grate on me as in I think he is going through some crap and we are not meshing.Granted he is losing his job in a couple of weeks but how he is dealing w/it is rather odd for me. I like odd by the way.He crapped on me for leaving the gate open,the dog out and then a couple of days later goes out and buys a truck w/o even consulting me then wants to go visit his parents on his motorcycle for a week w/o me!Hellooooooo, am I not getting something here or what. It is rather hurting but, I figure why not make a positive deal out of it-while he is up visiting I'll go on my own little vacation. Camping and hiking would be cool and I ain't done that in a while.Just go up on a mountain and get a little closer to god and let my spirit go w/the wind.Probably what I need to do anyways and what is better for me than going somewhere I may not really enjoy anyways. Yeah.,I hurt a little bit for now due to expectations but as you may gather if not for this program I would not have the proper tools to look at this stuff in a positive light and have faith that god is doing for me what needs to be done for the betterment of my life. I am so grateful I am not other people sometimes.


Member: Mitzi P.
Location: DE
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 3:21:15 PM

Comments

Although I may not be grateful for many events in my day, I am always grateful for my sobriety. With that, I can handle anything that comes up. That sobriety gives me choices and the wisdom to make them, or the wisdom to ask for help if I am having trouble deciding. My 19th anniversary is coming up, but I can relate so well with the newcomers. It seems like a very short while ago I was new and scared and nervous. What a relief it is now to be able to trust the program and its people and the Goddess with my life. Keep comin' back!


Member: Walter
Location: Alabama
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 6:14:03 PM

Comments

Great topic, indeed. Grateful to be able to participate in AA in this manner. Keep on sharing. You/we touch daily, in the ways we need touching the most: mind and spirit. I'm grateful, today, to be healthier in both spheres/areas.


Member: Ann C
Location: Reno, NV
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 6:29:58 PM

Comments

Gratatude is my favorite topic, and like some one sais earlier that my spiritual condition is based on how much gratatude I have for the things in my life.

I am really sick, cold flu and Idon't know wha tall but I am grateful that it isn't a hangover.

I look around me at the people who drink still and know what it feels like to feel that way and try to hide it and pretend that I am happy with the way things are.

Mu life isn't all it should be, my life isn't all it could be but thank God it's now what it used to be.

Sober ten years a glad of it. My prayers go out to all the new comers keep coming back it does work.


Member: mike m
Location: Penn,near Sayer
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 6:49:32 PM

Comments

when i went online i didnt like the topic .I felt that it should be something else,but after reading all thats been said so far, I realized,once again, my own powerlessness over life. Im new to the web and would appreciate any help,finding online (realtime)open discussion meetings.Im stuck with my family in a rural area and am without transportation.


Member: LeeEllen
Location: MI
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 6:53:01 PM

Comments

Hello all - LeeEllen here and a grateful recovering alcoholic. I'm with Mitzi in that I don't always feel gratitude everyday, especially in the last 3 months since I lost my hubby to cancer. But I can never forget where I came from and the hell I was in while drinking.

I am tho' truly grateful for AA, you people and my Higher Power who brought me back to sanity. Prayers going out to the newcomers. Thanks for letting me share. Peace, LeeEllen


Member: Nancy G
Location: Maryland
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 6:54:48 PM

Comments

Hi, Nancy and alkie, sober almost 5 mos. Grateful as anything that I've made it this far, and for all of you accepting lovely drunks out there who go through so much and hang in. An inspiration. I am grateful for everything these days, but was just today thinking how fortunate that I finally got sober when my elderly parents could enjoy it... never knew how much it hurt them, and my husband and daughter. Grateful for little things I had been missing when I got trapped in the pain of drinking, playing beach ball today in the pool my 9 yr. old, energy to do physical work, plant flowers, etc. Know I have a long road ahead, but believe it or not, I never tried to stop before... I swear my HP just reached me on Feb. 11th and it dawned on me "Just don't have one drink, ever" Seems to be that simple, plus lots of self work, and redirecting my life. This site is a God send to me, as I need to keep learning, and bene- fitting from the wisdom/experiences of others. Thanks for being there.


Member: Jo A
Location: Florida
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 7:59:02 PM

Comments

I'm just grateful that I found this site.I have been really depressed and shaky after my last binge. To read about people's length of happy sobriety gives me hope that I too can have this way of life. Thanks! I've been around the program for a long time, but can never seem to get longer than 3 years


Member: Allison V.
Location: PA
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 8:28:13 PM

Comments

For me, gratitude begins and ends in love. The love I have for God, the incredible love I get from my husband and children, the support of my family and friends, and the love I can now experience for myself. I went through so many self-loathing times in my life, times when I was a teen wishing I would just die, times as a young mother when I felt like I didn't have any purpose, times thoughout my alcoholism when I couldn't stand to wake up or look at myself. Today I am sober, and I am so grateful that I can feel gratitude. I also try to make a list of things I am thankful/grateful for each night. Amazingly, the list continues to change and grow. Prayers and Hope, Allison


Member: randy s
Location: PA
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 8:46:48 PM

Comments

80 days Hummmmm?gratitude is coming everyday there is alot of mess to clean.but i am getting alittle everyday. I heard at my third meeting . when you get up in the morning,before you even get out of bed.reach your hand out and ask your higher power to lead you threw the day!I have bad knee,s .and when iget threw the day go to a meeting and not use that,s gratitude for me!


Member: Doug K
Location: Hot, humid, cherries are ripening-W Mi
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 9:35:12 PM

Comments

Hi everybody, Doug - alcoholic. How can I not be grateful? What degree of denial, what kind of slant on reality would it take for me to forget what a miracle it is to not have to take a drink today...to have a fellowship that I truly love (shit, some of 'em even tell me they love me!)....to have faith in a HP....friends....family....work...life, etc. ALL my problems today are small and high-class, ie, I'm not sleeping under a bridge, eating out of a dumpster, contemplating suicide, lieing, cheating, stealing for a drink. How can I not be grateful? BOB H. from Pa....Don't give it a second thought, sounds to me like she should probably read the fourth tradition, not write about it. We do the same thing here in glorious Hart, Mi on those rare occasions. But if only one alkie sitting there wishes the meeting to stay closed, we keep it closed. Thanks


Member: Matt H
Location: chesco Pa
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 10:29:33 PM

Comments

long time with out a drink,trying to figure out how to kive, struggle continues but still grateful to see the world around me


Member: Matt H
Location: chesco Pa
Date: 6/25/01
Time: 10:29:47 PM

Comments

long time with out a drink,trying to figure out how to kive, struggle continues but still grateful to see the world around me


Member: AZbill
Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 1:10:59 AM

Comments

Hi. Bill here. Alcoholic from Arizona. I been sober ever since I knowed how. I didn't drink today. I didn't want to drink today. Haven't wanted a drink in a long time. For that I am grateful.

Bill Wilson once wrote that a full and thankful heart can hold no conceits. I believe that to be true.

I thank the God of my understanding every day for three things. That I am alive. That I am sober. That I am an member of Alcoholics Anonymous. I am grateful for all of my gifts, both spiritual and temporal.

I was taught that gratitude is a basic ingredient of humility. That humility leads to anonymity. And anonimity is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions.

If there are any FOBW Skydivers reading this, I made my first solo jump yesterday at Marana. Awesome.

Thank you all for being here and being a part on my sobriety today.

Bill

az-bill@mindspring.com


Member: Rita F.
Location: Sunny California
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 3:39:24 AM

Comments

Hi. Rita, alcoholic.<P>

Grateful to be here and have found this site. There is lots more to be grateful for too. Like others, I had been instructed long ago by my sponsor to write out my gratitude lists (5 new things daily). I am once again actively writing them. I go through periods where I neglect to write them, but I have yet to lose my gratitude. Writing them down makes it more powerful.<P>

For me, gratitude is the key to being happy, joyous and free. There is always something to be grateful for, always...the sun is shining (or not), I woke up early (or late), my boss didn't yell at me...yeah, I can always find stuff to put on my list.<P>

Thanks for being here.


Member: Fred M
Location: MD
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 7:21:40 AM

Comments

I'm Fred and I'm an alcoholic, grateful to God and the fellowship of AA for today's sobriety. I agree with Rita and everybody else who said gratitude is the foundation of their recovery. When I am in the dumps and thinking the world is picking on me, I just start listing the things I am greatful for. The list is endless and I can never reach the end. By the time I am well into this, I realize that the petty problem I was obsessing about is just that. Gratitude gives me serenity and peace, humility and honesty, and a greater appreciation for my higher power. Gratitude never fails to return me to a peaceful state. To me, gratitude is a powerful tool of the program that I turn to when I am troubled. It seldom fails me. Thanks for letting me share. Love, Fred


Member: Paula
Location: Lost
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 9:09:35 AM

Comments

I'm grateful for my brother, who is a card-carrying AA member and called me last week to talk. He has been with AA for two years and can finally talk about it. No one else in my family will admit to the alcohol problem that has silently hurt us for several generations.

I still have to join AA but found this sight in the midst of a pity-party knee-deep in self-hate. Thank you Mark W. from St. Louis, your reply to my first message made me cry and strengthened my resolve to take my life out of the bottle.


Member: AnilG
Location: MtVernon,IL
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 9:57:47 AM

Comments

I am an alcoholic and an addict .I am thankful to the great members of AA and Al anon who has helped to remain sober for the past three yrs. I am thankful and greatful to my sponsor and my HP for giving me the strengh and courage to maitain my sobriety.


Member: Melissa B.
Location: Canada
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 12:59:39 PM

Comments

Allison's post from yesterday could also have been written by me. That's exactly how I felt. My best days now are the ones spent in gratitude and thankfully there are so many of those days. I was forty three years old on June 19th, and two years sober on June 21st and tonight I am taking a cake at my home group. I feel blessed and more grateful than I can express in words. Thank you for the topic, Chris, and thank all of you for my sobriety. With love, Melissa, an alcoholic.


Member: Bobbye E.
Location: McKinney, TX
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 1:09:00 PM

Comments

Hi ALL! Bobbye, grateful recovering alcoholic and addict. Given the gift of sobriety and recovery 8-25-86 for that I am as grateful as I know how to be!

I did not end up in AA for singing to loud in the choir. I was unemployable, angry, pitiful, and unloveable. Selfish, self-centered, pious, proud, and arrogant. Needless to say . . . terribly lonely.

I did not get IT the first time around. My BEST thinking brought me to AA in '82, letting my Sobriety Loose Its Priority took me out in '85. Fear and the instantly refunded misery of the disease brought me right back but, I had some reservations about going to any lengths.

So I had a front row seat, watching the YETs (Your Eligible Too) happen to my STORY (what is now my experience strength and hope) when the insantity to drink returned.

When I found AA this time YOU-AA told me my name was Bobbye and to keep coming back. You gave me BASIC instructions, that I use today, these are the first lines on my gratitude list:

1. Breath in - Breath out 2. Put one foot in front of the other 3. Follow your face around - And do what is in front of it 4. Do not put anything in your hands that can end near your face that can change your sobriety date 5. When in doubt recite the basic instructions

My list goes on and on with the great things that the God of my understanding has given me. Today I am employable, and have a JOB I like I have a car, and like my car and have gas today I am clear in my head today, no one is living there rent free, WOW A new freedom and a new happiness! I have a home and I proud to share it! The list goes on.

My primary purpose is to stay sober and to help other alcoholics to achieve soberiety. All I ever wanted was a purpose and some buddies to share that purpose with. To continue to grow in undersanding and effectiveness from step 10 has added a profound commitment to continue in willingness to grow in my Favorite Relationship - My Love Affair with AA!

Happy Birthday! Alcoholics Annonymous 66 years old this month! Thanks for letting me share. Love Yall!


Member: Dry in the Desert
Location: Nevada
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 2:09:07 PM

Comments

Good Afternoon Everyone, my name is Walter and I am an Alcoholic !!

Remembering when I first came in and folks were introducing themselves as "Gratefull Alcoholics"....Gag !!

Now after some years of continueous miracles through the program and the spiritual guidance that I have found here, I still do not refer to myself as a "grateful alcoholic"....but only because "grateful" is not a strong enough word for what I feel towards the change that God and the program have given me at all levels....

My sponsor like to put it: "Walter, you cannot get where you are, from where you were !"

Welcome to all the newcomers and May the miracle happen to you....

Thank You for letting me share


Member: Dry in the Desert
Location: Nevada
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 2:09:35 PM

Comments

Good Afternoon Everyone, my name is Walter and I am an Alcoholic !!

Remembering when I first came in and folks were introducing themselves as "Gratefull Alcoholics"....Gag !!

Now after some years of continueous miracles through the program and the spiritual guidance that I have found here, I still do not refer to myself as a "grateful alcoholic"....but only because "grateful" is not a strong enough word for what I feel towards the change that God and the program have given me at all levels....

My sponsor like to put it: "Walter, you cannot get where you are, from where you were !"

Welcome to all the newcomers and May the miracle happen to you....

Thank You for letting me share


Member: Jessica g
Location: Plano tx
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 2:30:01 PM

Comments

Hi im Jessica and im an alcoholic and an addict and i am very great full to be here and to have found this program on line. i am very greatfull to be alive today and to have other alcoholics who understand what i am going through. and i am very greatfull to hve 4 months 2 weeks and 5 days today thanx for letting me share jessica


Member: marcia r.
Location: dallas
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 5:19:21 PM

Comments

gratiude. what a beautiful word. i am grateful for so much and feel very lucky to be sober and alive today. my detox was the most physically painful experience of my life. i have permanent nerve damage in my hands and feet. i feel that pain everyday. i learned to walk again, i learned to use spoon and fork again. i learned to show gratitude again. i believe that i have this pain so that i will never forget what i've put my family and loved ones through for the last eight years. and especially for what i put my bady and soul through. i am grateful beyond words to the people who stood by me, watched me fall, and allowed me to pick myself up again. i am grateful for this site and the input of others. thank you. m.sober4mos26days


Member: Rick P
Location: England
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 5:29:02 PM

Comments

I would like to express my tremendous gratitude to everyone who's helped me to reach one month of sobriety, my family, all the good people that I've met in AA, all of my coffee pot friends on this site for their encouragement, wonderful pieces of advice, and being there when I needed them most.

Thank you all, and I thank God for keeping me sober today.


Member: Ed G,
Location: Bryan
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 5:56:05 PM

Comments

Hi I am Ed an alcoholic, I guess the topic is graditude. Will I am gratefull everyday that I stay sober, and also for the family members which has stood by me through all the hard times. All the people in AA that has been there when I needed the support of a fellow alcoholic, for this I am every gratefull. I know I have to do this one day at a time, and for this knowledge I am gratefull.


Member: sarah c.
Location: ireland
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 7:56:17 PM

Comments

hi there my name is sarah and i am a grateful alcoholic. it's almost 1am here in belfast and i have not been to a meeting in too long. however, i found this site, and guess what? a.a. is a.a. all over the world. my last meeting was in cyprus while on holiday and i felt that wee rush of love as soon as i saw the familiar cupboard with coffe and frames with 'keep it simple' and 'live and let live' etc. just like this site, it felt like a homecoming, a safe place where people care and i thank you all and thanks to all those who have cared since 1980. luv & stuff sarah c.


Member: John
Location: Los Angeles
Date: 6/26/01
Time: 8:38:16 PM

Comments

Hi, I am an alcoholic. I am gradefule to be sober over 13 years. I was lucky to be able to get this program at 27. I know that I do not work the perfect program. But I now believe that no one is perfect really and that we do the best that we can. Recently I have be getting calls from those who go out after a bit of time. I tell them that it is what we do and that it will be ok. You just have to start over with today. Plus to forget the pain of this moment when you later think about picking up again. I am grateful for this day.


Member: Gale B.
Location: Fairfax, CA.
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 1:35:01 AM

Comments

Hi friends my name is Gale and I am an alcoholic. Gratitude is a tremendous topic. I am extremeoly grateful to be sober today because without sobriety I have nothing anyway. I am visiting my niece here in Fairfax, a family crisis going on and grateful to be sober and here to help anyway I can which would absolutely not be possible without AA. The program is my life instead of a head full of booze a heart full of ache and a mind full of rage and insanity. Welcome to anyone who is new or coming back stay with us your life will get better and you will find peace. God bless. Gale B. Participation Group Vancouver, Canada sobriety date Dec. 29, 1992.


Member: Jack B
Location: Palo Alto, Pa
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 2:23:29 AM

Comments

Hi, I am Jack, a real alcoholic.My former sponsor, who passed away with 46 years of continous sobriety allwyas told me that humility will get us sober, gratitude will keep us sober. Thru the Grace of God, the Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous I have had continous sobriety since the 23rd of November 1987.That is truly a miracle and I am so very grateful for that. Today, I have freedom in my life thru our twelve steps.The obsession to drink was lifted in about my seventh month of sobriety.No greater miracle than the amazing Grace of God could have done that. Today I have no desire what so ever to drink, I can say from the bottom of my heart, that it has been about seven years since I even had the thought about drinking.Alcohol has no place in my life today, thru the Grace of God and our wonderful fellowship.For that I hope I can remain eternally grateful. Thru the Grace of God and the 12 step program, I can honestly say today, that I have everything I need, and almost everything I want. Sober today thru the Grace of God and A A.For that I am eternally grateful. Thanks for allowing me to share and God Bless .


Member: Mike C.
Location: Folsom, CA
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 2:23:41 AM

Comments

Hello everyone. My name is Mike and I am an alcoholic. After reading all the comments, I feel I do have a lot to be grateful for. For one, I am grateful for this web site. This is my first time on and it's really great! Second, I am grateful for my sobriety - 11 years and counting. Lastly, I am grateful for all my "high-class" problems as other have said. It's important for me to be constantly reminded by newcomers the obsession I had about wanting to drink that first year. Now I think about the job, the mortgage or why I don't have a girlfriend! As I said, high-class problems. Anyway, I'm very grateful to be sober today. I'm feeling much more connected with AA after reading the comments from fellow members all over the world. I just moved to a new town a few months ago and I still haven't fully adapted to the meeting format here. I couldn't have found this site at a better time. KEEP COMING BACK EVERYONE!!!


Member: "Dennie of the Many" H.
Location: Shelbyville, IN
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 3:18:07 AM

Comments

Hi! I'm Dennie, an alcoholic, very grateful to be alive and sober today. Gratitude wasn't in my vocabulary when I came into AA. I was sure 1) I was possessed by the devil & needed to be exorcised, 2) saw snakes & bugs crawling all over me whenever I shut my eyes, and 3) at age 39 had a premature case of Alzheimer's. What was there to be grateful about in all of that?!

Though drinking daily, I didn't think I was alcoholic but knew I was certifiably crazy! In detox, they told me he devil, snakes, bugs & memory loss were all part of the DT's and would go away. Gratitude #1 but I didn't know it yet.

If I wake up on this side of the sod tomorrow, June 28, God will bless me with 15 miraculous years of sobriety, thanks to His Grace and the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous.

My "gratitude cup - so empty at first - runneth over" today. And it always starts with a thank you for the precious gift of sobriety.

Today my sponsor tells me to be grateful for everything - both the good and the bad - because there are lessons in it all. And tonight I'm especially grateful to Gregg M., who told me about this site, and for all of the AA sponsors (God has moved me from Chicago to Indy to Shelbyville) and friends also "trudging the road to happy destiny" who teach me to help others on this journey as they help me.

To the newcomers, do stick around for the miracle. You can't imagine the wonders and blessings your Higher Power has in store for you - one day at a time.

Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Sue S.
Location: Sherrill, NY
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 8:18:31 AM

Comments

My name is Sue and I'm an alcoholic. Good topic (one that I used to hate!). I haven't had to pick up a drink in 7 years. Sometimes I stay sober in spite of myself. I'm grateful to be an alcoholic. If I weren't, I wouldn't have found this life saving program and the 12 steps which have become my directions for living. Being sober is the BEST!


Member: Kim V.
Location: Iowa
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 8:35:35 AM

Comments

Very good topic...I've been sober just over a month and every day I write down 5 things in my journal that I'm grateful for that day. I am especially grateful for my AA members and my sponsor, without them I wouldn't be sober today. Thank you, everyone for being there when I need you.


Member: Sue
Location: Chicago
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 8:40:22 AM

Comments

Hi everyone Sue alcohalic. Gratitude!!!

When I was a new comer I really hated to here people talk about being gratiful. My life was such a mess. Wasn't even sure how I would live without alcolol. But I listened and kept coming back.

Today, is a gift. Today I have a choice of weather I pick up that first drink. Today, is the only day I have to live to the fullest sober god willing.

Everything and eveyperson in my life is a gift of this program. You all have given to me what I tried for years to do on my own. Today with all your help I have 12 years of sobrity. Thanks to all of you.


Member: Sam L
Location: Hong Kong
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 11:33:41 AM

Comments

Hi, My name is Sam and I'm an alcoholic. The topic of "Gratitude" is great, after all that I went throught last couple years on my recovery,I am grateful about the program and friend I met at meeting and/or online. My choice is to stay with the program and have this grateful for the rest of my recovery!


Member: jeremy w
Location:
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 3:54:35 PM

Comments

Being gratiful was big in my recovery i had to look at everything people did and continue to do for me instead of always thinking people had to do for me. Now i look at all i have to be gratiful for other than thinking what i want.


Member: Fred P.
Location: Upstate New York
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 5:25:03 PM

Comments

Like the diabetic who doesn't produce insulin, this alcoholic doesn't produce gratitude. I need to go to meetings to be reminded that I have a lot to be thankful for. I try to be grateful for the simple things like just being able to walk around. My AA friend Billie did't put down his last drink till he heard that old bone saw taking off his leg due to a drinking accident. It almost happened to me too after being mowed down by a car outside a bar one night. I survived and I don't even have a limp today. It could have been worse.


Member: Teresa W
Location: Texas
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 6:06:21 PM

Comments

Hello all you alkies!

I'm an alcoholic named Teresa. I've heard some great stuff from y'all on here regarding gratitude. I'm grateful to be sober for over 13yrs, I'm grateful to have found my God and the faith I have today, let's see... I'm grateful that I know I'm still an alcoholic and always will be and I'm grateful to have you alcoholics reminding me that if I don't stay grateful, I might die drunk, so thank you all for sharing your gratitude with me! If you pray you stay, if you don't you won't. You can't be hateful and grateful at the same time. Just thought i'd pass on those gems...

Big Hugs & AA Love to all...


Member: Rich R, slowly recovering compulsive person :-)
Location: detroit
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 7:41:39 PM

Comments

I am just returning from a relapse in a different 12-step program and that experience has made me grateful for my abstinence from drinking, big time! It's funny how I get to the point of just taking things for granted. This sobriety thing is really a gift because based on just my effort I should have picked up about 9 years ago! Thanks for letting me share.


Member: CHris H.
Location: Fla.
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 7:45:36 PM

Comments

Hi all---chris H. here... alcoholic/addict/bulimic...GRatitude--what a great topic..My sponsor has always been really big on gratitude. When things were going the very worst for me she always told me to go do my gratitude list. I try to do one every day...And even when I don't think that it is very good, it at least pulls my mind our of a completely negative frame. I am particularily greatful right now , because there are things going on in my family that I have prayed for for years... It is funny though when these things finally happen, I tend to not be as greatful as I should. I guess it is just a discipline... or mabey I feel like the good things just can't last...OR perhaps I have a need to sabotage it( a biggy with this alcoholic!). I don't know how to live without some huge crisis in my life. I guess gratitude is the key. Fridays in my home group are always Gratitude days. There were times when that was the last thing that I wanted to hear. But now as I look bacton those meetings, I learned so much from the old timers in those meetings. They really instilled in me the importance of gratitude. IT is so easy ( esp. for us alkies) to look only at the negative side of life, but I learned frome those meetings that there is always SOMETHING we can be greatful for in our lives.--Forgive me for rambeling../. I guess I just needed it!


Member: PhilS
Location: The Beautiful South (UK)
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 7:49:28 PM

Comments

Hi, Phil alcoholic here.

Fred P. wrote "Like the diabetic who doesn't produce insulin, this alcoholic doesn't produce gratitude." Could be describing me!

The hypercritical cynic in me has happily survived my active alky years and is ready to do battle at the slightest provocation. How easy for me to read all the posts and to react by thinking that people are just mindlessly repeating a mantra. That's because gratitude is something that doesn't flow naturally from me even when I know that it should and my arrogance tries to tell me that the way I feel things is the only valid way (so how come I ended up an alky then when my feelings were so clearly the right ones?).

Sure I "appreciate" and value" things but actively feeling "gratitude" is a very unusual experience for me. My guess is that mostly my problem is one of vocabulary. When others use the word "grateful", I would say "value" because I sure as hell value my sobriety, my family, my growth in emotional and spiritual areas and all the other things that getting sober through AA has given me. It's just that I rarely feel this intensely enough to convince myself I am grateful. I think it will come someday if I stick with recovery in AA but, for now, I still have some emotional and psychological problems dating from who knows how long ago that stand in the way for me in this realm.


Member: daniel t
Location: ohio
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 8:39:05 PM

Comments

Hi I am Daniel I am from Ohio and I have been sober for seven months and I have had a hard time with it but, I am doing it with the help of my girlfriend and AA Meeting , and my family they are all very supportive . And I apperciate them all. My girlfriend really helps me alot to keep my mind off wanting to drink we do things with the kids and keep active and we also exercise together and play ball . I am glad to be sober today . Thank you . DANIEL


Member: Rhonda K.
Location: Derry, N.H.
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 8:40:49 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Rhonda an alcoholic. Great topics and comments. Whenever I forget to be grateful I can become miserable. To all newcomers keep coming and ask your Higher Power for help. It works! Thank you God for AA and everything I have today. Nice to see your posting Charlie D.


Member: Ricky H
Location: Louisville, Ky
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 11:51:38 PM

Comments

Hello, I just got a new computer and this is my first time on this site. I am full of gratitude that today I have "soundness of mind" and that I don't live in the insanity that once controlled my life. Most alcoholics never get the chance that we in sobriety live one day at a time. I'm grateful that I've got a loving family and the support of so many people in my life today. If I had died on my last drunk on 10-10-87, they would have had to pay 6 people to carry me to my grave. My first sponsor passed on about 6 years ago and I had the opportunity to be with him on his last night alive. It was truly amazing how many people filtered through his house and how he made an effort to greet and respond to everyone. On the day of his death, I was getting ready to leave and he kissed me on the cheek and said, "You know what Ricky, we are two of the most blessed people in the world this morning." I was stunned. I thought to myself, how can this man feel lucky when he's dying. So I asked him, "Carter, why are we so lucky?" He stated these most amazing words, "Because we have so many friends." How could I not have gratitude after God saw fit to put such a special person in my life and to teach me a lesson in humility in my sponsor's death. Life is too short to be angry all the time. I spent alot of years in my addiction favoring those resentments like they were my favorite toys. If you are going to be happy in sobriety, it will be a direct result of how much of your life that you are willing to turn over to your Higher-Power. The more I surrender, the more gratitude I have. Thank God for such a wonderful program and for His loving Grace that truly is sufficent to keep us sober one day at a time.

Thanks, Ricky


Member: Jack B
Location: Palo Alto, pa
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 2:45:43 AM

Comments

Hi I am Jack, a real alcoholic.To Ricky H. Thanks for your comments about your sponsor Carter. It took me back to when my sponsor died with 46 years of sobriety.I never saw so many people turnout for his viewing.His wife had an Priest who is in A A and knew Tom from their days together in the Washington Dc area say a eulogy for Tom.On my way out I introduced myself to the priest and told him I was Tom's sponsee.He looked at me and said that now Tom is sponsoring me from above. Tom and Carter should serve A A very well together in heaven. Thanks and God Bless you for bringting tears to my eyes.


Member: Lionel-C
Location: Campbelltown NSW Australia
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 3:20:21 AM

Comments

G'Day all my names lionel i'm a grateful recovering alcoholic. Gaditude is the mother of all virtues.and i wish to believe that today.i once heard u cant be grateful and unhappy at the same time 'and thats true in mylife.just for today i'm grateful for this beautiful program .an a Higher Power who loves loves me with all my defects and shortcomings an i have alot of them.all i have is today and for me thats enought.thanku all for being apart of my brandnew life in recovery.Lionel-C


Member: Robert H.
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 10:54:03 AM

Comments

Hi Family. I'm Robert. A very greatful recovering alcoholic.

WOW! After reading EVERYONE's comments I'm almost at a loss for words (very unusual for me). It's also very uncommon for me to have read every posting. Before I found AA, I never listened. I just waited to talk. Sometimes I still don't listen as well as I should, but with the grace of my Higher Power and an old-timer in the program who politely told me to shut up until I knew what the hell I was talking about, I'm getting better.

Today I am grateful for 5 months and three days of sobriety, for everyone's wonderful comments, for the ability to listen (with not only my ears, but with my heart and my soul), for all the new (real) friends I have in AA, for not having to worry about tomorrow, and the willingness to KEEP COMING BACK.

I'll end with a quote: "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein


Member: ML
Location:
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 1:14:02 PM

Comments

HI, I am very new to this. Only one month yesterday. I just want to say that I am VERY grateful for a man in my church, who although he didn't know me talked to me and got me started in AA. Also thankful to his wife for the continual push to keep sober.


Member: oh my
Location:
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 4:07:49 PM

Comments

this woman in church sucks like a hoover


Member: Mira S.
Location: Tx
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 9:50:33 PM

Comments

Howdy, Friends--

Mira, Alcoholic. Unfortunately, we have those around us who are cynical, cruel, and bitter-- maybe because their lives are profoundly sad, maybe because we have what they want--maybe just because they are mean. I don't really need to know why.

But being exposed to such unhappiness makes me grateful that I don't have to be that way any more. How does the saying go? "Pain is inevitable; misery is optional."

Thanks for the opportunity to share.

egrasshopper


Member: Hank K.
Location: Eaton, N.Y.
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 10:36:40 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Hank and I'm an alcoholic. It's been almost three years since my last drink and as one of my friends put it-every day is a holiday if you didn't pick up. Grateful to be here today and thank you for letting me share.


Member: MELVIN
Location:
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 1:22:48 PM

Comments

THIS VIAGRA IS GREAT.........I GOT A HARDON THAT STAYS ALL DAY,BUT EVERYONE AT WORK STARES AT ME ALL DAY.


Member: Kim D
Location: Indianapolis
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 1:57:09 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Kim and I am an alcohic addict. I am so GRATEFUL that I found this site. I am at work and truly need a meeting right now. I cannot pin point exactly whats wrong,just that I don't feel right. Sort of jittery and apprehensive. I am going on 2years sober August 15th. I know that birthdays can be weird sometimes, but this is ridiculous. Please share your hope with me.


Member: Darla H
Location: Georgia,Bartow
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 2:22:37 PM

Comments

Hey All Just found this site last week and have really loved it I also found Mel at the CP and have a great friend That is just one of the many things Im grateful for today My hhusband picked up after 5 years and we made it through w/out alot of damage being an alcoholic and married to one is an interesting trip many good things and a beautiful daughter and a love I have never know I can share his pain and know it will be alright at the same time I am grateful he stopped before losing his mind.

Kim D I have sat at my office and thought the same thing many days All I can tell you is someone is drunk today and it isnt you or me . I love this site there is always something good to read and learn Thank all who post I need it

Mel have a great weekend in Fla.

Hello to the guy in Brussells I used to live in Mons at SHAPE milatary base

Thank to all LOL see you next week It masy not get better but I will IF i follow these steps and share as honestly as I can every day..

Darla


Member: melvin
Location:
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 2:47:44 PM

Comments

kim i have viagra for us


Member: melvin
Location:
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 2:52:24 PM

Comments

yippie i have a big one


Member: billybob
Location:
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 5:42:49 PM

Comments

i want to see mr. winkey


Member: Gary
Location: TENN
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 5:56:49 PM

Comments

I am a drunk named Gary. I am grateful that I don't have to act like Melvin and billy bob. and that after five years I am still jittery and basicly crazy but I don't have to drink over it today.


Member: Look!
Location:
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 6:18:22 PM

Comments

Is Hell a place of fire and brimstone?

Does the Bible teach that at death one goes to either Heaven or Hell?

What does Christianity teach anyway?

These are the things this page will discuss. Many people including myself have never been able to reconcile the thought of a loving God devising a plan that required most people to spend eternity in agony after a few years living here on Earth. That is what I understand that Orthodox Christianity has to say about it. We all know what pain is and how anyone will take pain killers to try to avoid terrible pain. Can it be that people really believe that anyone goes to a place where they are burned and that they are kept alive and tormented with that pain forever? That is what many people claim that the Bible teaches. I have heard it said that "if that is what God has planned for people I'm all for it". This is thought to be expressing great faith in God. I think it is a terrible slur on his name. There is a song that expresses it. A line goes, "they magnify his vengeance with a zeal he will not own". I have never been able to see how anyone can really believe that. It is true that many think that the punishment is "separation from God". Whatever that is it is easier to accept than having people wreathing in excruciating pain forever.

What does the Bible teach? And could the famous Bible scholars all down through the age have been wrong? They didn't all believe it and they don't all believe it now. There is a big argument going on right now among Orthodox Christians. If you want to get in on it go to "Conditional Immortality" in the search box on Yahoo. There are many places you can go to get it. There are a lot of arguments given, some of which I think are quite strange, but the fact is that there are many people that are challenging the idea that anyone will be kept alive and tortured forever and ever. I think this is a great step forward by those that claim to be Christian.

It will be my purpose here to show that the question is not heaven or hell, but life or death. Only good people will be kept alive forever. Immortality is not inherited but must be gained. 1 Corinthians 15:53 (KJV) "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality". The Apostle Paul evidently didn't believe that mankind had inherit immortality.

As to the fire and brimstone; it is true that Jesus used the term "hell fire" several times. Why did he do that if hell is not a place of fire? For instance in Matthew 18: 9 Jesus says this, "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire". Is Jesus here saying that it is better to pluck out your eye than to be burned forever in a fiery hell? I'm sure that there are some that take this to say that. He is saying that one needs to give up anything wrong even if it is as desirable as one's eyes and he does say that being cast into hell fire is the penalty. So what is he talking about with the term "hell fire"? In this place and in eleven others, the translators used the word hell to translate the Greek word "Gehenna". Outside of the ancient city of Jerusalem was a valley called Gehenna. This was the garbage dump of Jerusalem. Refuse was disposed of here and it was burned. It was destroyed. That is the simple truth of what Jesus was saying. It would be better for anyone to give up any pet things even if they were as cherished as one's eyes rather than to be destroyed. It seems obvious to me that that is all that he is saying. It certainly doesn't say anything about being tormented forever. Then there is the one about the undying worms that the Traditionalists would mention. Mark9: 47&48, "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched". This is one of the other places where the Greek word Gehenna is translated by the word Hell. Jesus is here also talking about the garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. It seems very far-fetched to think that Jesus is here talking about the souls of people. Undying worms the souls of people? Obviously the garbage dump had fires smoldering and things that failed to reach the fire would have worms in it. The worms would always be there; they would not have to be immortal. The thought is that of destruction. In previous pages, on the resurrection and the soul I've tried to show that the Bible does not teach that at death man goes straight to heaven or if he is bad goes to a place of torment.

Here is a scripture that I have always liked. (Psalms145: 20 NKJV) "The LORD preserves all who love Him, But all the wicked He will destroy". Note it says destroy not keeps alive in any form.

There is much more to be said on this subject. I want to keep these pages short so maybe someone might read them. Just want to make it plain that the Bible does not teach that God is a monster.

If anyone is interested in pursing this subject I would suggest that you write to

The Dawn 199 Railroad Ave. East Rutherford, NJ 07073

And ask for the booklet "The Truth about Hell". It goes into every scripture in the Bible that uses the word Hell and the fact that the word Grave is used to translate the same Greek word as is translated Hell. The difference being that when good people are being discussed the word Grave is used, when bad people the word Hell is used.

Also they have a website.

www.dawnbible.com


Member: SB
Location: NYFN
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 10:35:34 PM

Comments

Hi guys. My name is Susan and I'm am grateful to not be drinking today. I have 64 days clean and coming home and seeing my yard not properly mowed really upset me. I love mowing my lawn and I haven't been able to maintain it lately because of circumstances. I know it sounds trivial, but it really made me mad. I didn't crave a drink, but I craved to feel different, and I thought of my HP and that alleviated the thought of adding pain and fear in my life by drinking. I am gratful that I have a place that I can come to today and talk about things. I really wanted to go to a meeting as well, but my license is suspended and I'm in the boonies. Sometimes it's hard to be rational and positive all the time. That's what I try to do, but I'm human. I also cried twice today, which is very healing. I was really pissed off this afternoon, but I think I'm going to be ok (my poor boyfriend, I guess I better go apologize to him for using him as my sounding board even if he does that to me as well). I just wanted to be with my AA family and thank God I can do it here online when needed. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Ricky H.
Location: Louisville
Date: 6/29/01
Time: 11:11:31 PM

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Look, That was a very interesting article, but could be very confusing for someone who can't go an hour without taking a drink. We both could come together and argue our beliefs and God concepts with neither of us being swayed one tiny bit. But remember, we can argue concepts, but we can't argue with a person's transformation. The transforming power that God gives through His grace to change lives is what I'm most concerned about when I think of God. I've never really talked to anyone who has been on the other side and I don't expect I ever will until I join them. I can't spend my sober time here on earth trying to figure out what I never could figure out in my addiction. I stand on the truth today as it unfolds in my life. I am sober and have a good job and a great family life. I have numerous friends and a large social circle with whom I spend a great deal of time with. I am a Christian by choice and attend Church on a regular basis. When I die, then and only then will I know the truth about eternity and God's plan for humanity. If I came at your article from the Christian side, I would say it is a typical escape the consequences version of self-will run riot. God doesn't send anybody anywhere. If there is a Hell and people end up there, God didn't send them--they sent themselves by their own actions and justifications. I quit trying to tell other people what God meant in His writings along time ago. It is written in plain English and it really doesn't need my interpretation. God seems to get the message across to people who are suffering the most and then watches to see if others will follow. AA is closer to the Biblical Church than the traditional church is today. I really believe that its because of the singleness of purpose. We can argue about many different things in AA, but the purpose never changes. Put leadership in AA and there would be as many different AA beliefs as there are in most Churches. Christians need to get back to the singleness of purpose, "Love Thy Neighbor, As You Would Love Yourself." God's grace enables me to act in obedience through my relationship with others. I don't think Jesus was kidding when he said what you have done for the least of these, you have done unto me. He gives us that opportunity everyday just to stick to his purpose of helping your brother in need. If you really think about it, this letter from me is kinda like the "Woe's to the Pharasees." Too much analizing causes most to think that if they dig hard enough, they will figure God out. AA has taught me that I don't have all the answers and that I really don't need all the answers to lead a healthy and productive life. My Faith in God has come through His Grace. And Grace is one thing that no human can ever give or take. I don't remember you saying if you were an alcoholic or not. I would guess not. Because if you were, you would truly know the Hell that Jesus was referring too. I haven't met an alcoholic who hasn't been through Hell in one form or the other. So for me, Hell is nolonger an option, and Heaven is the Greatest Reward. Thanks, Ricky H.


Member: Tracey S.
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 12:30:07 AM

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Every cloud... <smile> Am I grateful that my husband had an affair with one of my best friends and ran me into bankruptcy? Nope. Am I grateful to have found out and to be out of a bad situation before I wasted more of my life? You bet. If I am happy with where I am now, how can I possibly regret anything that came before? Would that I could have taken some easier roads to get here, but without even the regretable events in my life, I might not be in the happy circumstances of the present.

I must even be grateful for the relapse that came upon the crumbling of my marriage. I hadn't worked my program, and didn't have the tools to cope when things got rough. Now I have eight months sober and am working hard. God willing, things will never be so terrible again, but if they do, I want to be prepared!

Grateful to be alive and sober. Thanks for being here.


Member: joe
Location:
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 1:48:47 PM

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i like to have safe sex with myself,is this normal behaviour?


Member: Krissy
Location: MI
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 2:17:33 PM

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Hi, my name is Krissy and I'm an alcohlic. I'm a newcomer to the program. I'm going on my second month of sobriety and hav been to a meeting nearly every day in the past month. The knowledge I have gained is priceless. For the first time in my life I am discovering peace, happiness, and hope. I have been going through the hell of severe depression and several suicide attempts(all involving alcohol and drugs) during the past four years. I am on anti-depressants which help a great deal, but not nearly as much as my sobriety and daily meetings do. I am learning how to live. I am extremely grateful for AA and its' members, you have saved my life!


Member: meth monsters too
Location:
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 3:20:43 PM

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i see dead people


Member: you ARE ON DRUGS
Location:
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 6:17:46 PM

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yOU MUST BE TWEAKING


Member: Karen C
Location: Dothan, AL
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 9:34:39 PM

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Hey you all I'm karen I'm an alcoholic, this is my first time on this site. Boy i really didn't want to hear a gratitude meeting. But something inside of me said READ! So I pugged in my Metallica CD in and started to read. Thank you I really needed to hear this. I've got 6 year of sobriety and nothing to bitch about or to be ungrateful about. But when things don't go my way I can forget so fast. So i need to be reminded all the time. I just finished school (like i was told to do) and now I want to know where that job is!! I feel i will be moving but i hate the wait. You know just trust God and do what you can do well i did my part! I want that job yesterday. but thanks again for the ideas on the gratitude list haven't done that lately. Dua, maybe that is what God is trying to tell me. Like I said thanks again i really needed a refocus shot! "thanks"


Member: willie nelson
Location: white snakes house
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 10:42:16 PM

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that is the devils music.............

he he he ha haha


Member: Suzzi C.
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Date: 6/30/01
Time: 11:41:53 PM

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Hello family, Suzzi C. grateful recovering alcoholic and addict. I am grateful today that when I read through your comments that I see the similarities today rather than the differences. I too went on a field trip from AA for 1 1/2 years and damned near died. Thrown into detox at 89 lbs. in May...I would have been 8 years this Dec...but am grateful that I have today...and you people, ****GOD**** , the spiritual tools you all so freely gave me, two good knees for getting down and praying on..tee hee...and a tough big book thumping sponsor. Today is simple for me...get up, and do GOD's business ...which means what is in front of me...not what I need to do tomorrow or next week. What I can do right now...Living in today. Never got that until now...Uhmmm some are sicker than others and I guess I had to hit a bigger bottom and get the gift of desperation before I finally got a hold of that idea. Well, rambled enough...love you all Suzzi C. Oklahoma


Member: oh my
Location: goodness
Date: 7/1/01
Time: 12:03:56 AM

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tee he he lulu where are you in jail at?

hehehe


Member: Jeff B
Location: Northern CA
Date: 7/1/01
Time: 4:40:37 AM

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Hi, I'm Jeff and I am an alcoholic.

I have been given the gift of sobriety today. I owe it to God and AA. I can show my gratitude by going to meetings and trying to help. It really does make me feel good to act like I'm grateful. I still have days when I'd rather not take the actions of a sober alcholic, but it is getting better. When I can remember what it was like drinking and then remember some of my great days sober it is hard not to be grateful.

Thank you all for being here.