Member: Rich
Location:
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 8:34:40 AM
Hi. Rich, alchie. I'd like to discuss the 'pink cloud' of early recovery. What is it? Did you experience it? What happened next? etc. Thanks.
Member: Tracy
Location: Essex England
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 9:06:27 AM
Hi ((Rich)) Tracy alkie here, I have been sober 3months tomorrow, and from my own experience, I to was told after about 2-3wks that i was on a pink cloud, I didn't know what they meant but i thought they are wrong i will always feel this confident and happy about not drinking, wow was i wrong, after the cloud came the tidal wave and i was swept under it. I sometimes get that pink cloud feeling now, but it is edged with reality now of knowing everything is just for today. Hope this makes some sense. tracy.vntlworld.com
Member: Tracy V
Location: Essex England
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 9:19:26 AM
Opps meant to say reality is more fulfilling experience then the pink cluoud , it has depth to it. tracy.v@ntlworld.com
Member: Kathleen
Location: Florida
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 9:39:17 AM
Hi everyone...Kathleen here alcoholic. Congrats on your 3 months tomorrow. The pink cloud....never have figured out why they call it a pink one instead of another color but... When I was new in sobriety and I was actively working the steps and going to meetings and etc etc, I was on I think an adrenalin high from just feeling good from not drinking and thinking all would be wonderful. Just as when I was drinking and a crisis would hit I would think all was lost, no hope....as an alkie I tend to do the extremes...very high highs and very low lows... then one day, when I was about 3 years sober and in a bad spot, I was wanting to die, and I had one of those little "god shots"....I was in a truck crossing a bridge and wanted to let go of the wheel, I threw my hands up in the air, crying and cried out, "what do I do????"...and at that instant there was a license tag that said..."CGOD-4IT".... so I took my big book and 12 and 12 and went to the beach and started working my 11th step and was on a spiritual high that lasted 3 days.... I don't consider that a pink cloud but a spiritual expierence... I know we can't always be in the euphoric stage and that tells me I can't always be in the real down stage either..it's finding a balance between AA, work, prayer, meditation, social life, family life...it takes practice and patience and all those qualities that build by living by the principles of the program... Thanks for a good topic and food for thought... Kathleen rambler@atlantic.net
Member: LynneV
Location: Southern NJ
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 10:35:41 AM
Hi everyone, Lynne,alcoholic. I didn't experience the "pink cloud" until I was in recovery for several month. I was on the beach and I had a good feeling that surrounded me and I felt like I did as a child on the beach. That healthy, happy content feeling of innocense and a strong feeling of being protected by my mom from all evils. I know it sounds weird but that's what I felt. I knew that reality would set in but enjoyed the moments of those feelings and actually have had many since then. BUT, I know they are "moments" and not every day life which certainly has it's "ups and downs" and I have my problems to cope with. At least now I can meet with AA friends and talk about them and get through them one day at a time. Thank you for letting me share.
Member: Britt B
Location: Atlanta
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 10:49:08 AM
Hello. I am an alcoholic named Britt. The pink cloud thing for me happened after about three months of working the program, For the first time in twenty or so years I was feeling good physically and mentally, I also had developed a spiritual connection between myself and my higher power. At this point in my recovery my family was happy with me. There were no issues at work that I had created and life was looking darn good. I felt like I had a good knowledge of the program and wanted to tell everyone. I new I could help others find what I found. This was a great feeling. There were problems with this mind set. First, I found put very quickly how little I really new about working the program. In those few months I had also forgotten that I had to want to change my life, so it did not matter that I wanted to help everyone I could when most, if not all, the people I tried to help were not ready for help. The most important aspect of the pink cloud for me was that I was building self confidence in myself and self respect. This new found mental attitude was my reality that came from my pink cloud experience. As Tracy said, Reality is much more fulfilling, I am one week short of my second birthday. It has been a good two years with a few bumps in the road, I continue to work my program and can look back at my early sobriety with wonder and awe. I am very grateful to so many in this program and I try to reach out to other alcoholics. I do this with a better understanding of working the steps and have a much stronger support group around me that I use in all aspects of my recovery. Thanks for the topic and for letting me ramble on. Britt
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 10:53:43 AM
Pink Cloud, Wow I've been so happy these past few weeks of being sober I'm going on my third week so it's Day 19 for me so I must be in a cloud, this is a good topic and am excited about hearing what to do when my cloud leaves? Diane B
Member: Stephen H.
Location: Washington
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 11:17:59 AM
I am not really sure what the "pink cloud" is but I don't think I've hit it yet. I have been sober a little over 2 mo. and I do feel better now than I can ever remember feeling. The funny thing is I was forced to maintain sobriety for treatment, I was sent by the court, and it is the best thing that has ever happened to me so far.
Member: C.B.
Location: LORAIN
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 12:33:51 PM
Today is a nice day with spring moving in . Today I have been keeping faith the flowers are going to blossom . I can say that I got today . ONE thing good the ice is gone . The snow is gone so the day are getting longer . I just say for today is what I'll got . Yesterday was the past and what is to being in the past . There are thing that we call tools I'm my self Was told to start pray for tools that can help me . Today herd the old timers say pull the cotton out rabbit ears . Easter is next Sunday . SO tell rabbit something good ok. so have good one ok . today in cyber speach of the day IN love in today godbless you people just a day they call for the man that died for our sins. THANKS YOU FOR TODAY SEE YOU LATER Alligator and have good one ok .
Member: C.B.
Location: LORAIN
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 12:37:19 PM
Today is a nice day with spring moving in . Today I have been keeping faith the flowers are going to blossom . I can say that I got today . ONE thing good the ice is gone . The snow is gone so the day are getting longer . I just say for today is what I'll got . Yesterday was the past and what is to being in the past . There are thing that we call tools I'm my self Was told to start pray for tools that can help me . Today herd the old timers say pull the cotton out rabbit ears . Easter is next Sunday . SO tell rabbit something good ok. so have good one ok . today in cyber speach of the day IN love in today godbless you people just a day they call for the man that died for our sins. THANKS YOU FOR TODAY SEE YOU LATER Alligator and have good one ok .
Member: Ron K
Location: N.S.
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 12:47:55 PM
Hi, my name is Ron and I am an alcoholic. I remember when I first sobered up thinking that life was going to be perfect, just because I had put the cork in the jug. That was part of the "pink cloud feelings". Alot of self- centerness there. I was soon to learn that life has its ups and downs and that we have to learn to live life on life's terms, not Ron's terms, in sobriety. I know for this alcoholic, it got alot easier when I started to learn some of the tools we have in A.A to deal with life as a sober person. It certainly gets easier with time, and for those newcomers, just keep coming back and have faith. Thanks for letting me share and I wish you all another sober 24.
Member: Mark
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 12:53:00 PM
Mark-grateful alcoholic -I missed my big book meeting this Sunday morning so I thought I could take advantage of this online meeting. It's quite amazing to feel a sense of a meeting here that is as large as the whole world via the internet. -I also hear people at meetings talk about the "Honey Moon Phase" as being the same as the "pink cloud" meaning that there is a wonderful euphoric feeing right after sobering up because it just feels so great to be able to live each day without being inslaved to the need to drink. I also hear that it is expected that the "pink cloud" will not last because the bigger picture of sobriety has to set in with the consequent homework to do with all of the 12 steps. For me, truly, my sobriety date was just the beginning. My drinking was about my pain as a result of not having answers about how to live my life in relationships, at work, in my spirituality, in my emotional life and in my head. Booze was my medicine. When I threw the medicine away I had to find my answers if I was to not drink and still feel happy with my life. Beyond the pink cloud for me are the challenges of growing up as an adult instead of being a child in an adult body. I've got to work on my resentments, fears, self esteem, spirituality-concious contact with my higher power, etc. Truly, this is my journey now after 19.5 years of sobriety. I also often hear the following phrase at meetins. In my sobriety, I am learning how to live life on life's terms and how to be happy with this. Today for me, my renewed pink clouds come as I keeping turning my life over to my higher power, remember the serenity prayer and mindfully work step 11, go to meetings and see my sponsor. -I have health problems, 3 months ago I was laid off from work and my retirement planning is a joke. Good thing I came to this meeting this morning. - Mark
Member: Marsha L
Location: Michigan
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 1:13:07 PM
Thanks to you (Mark and Ron and everyone) I know what can lie ahead for me and what possibly to be on guard for. I am staying sober for another day. Thanks.
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 2:24:02 PM
thank you Mark I needed to hear that I know I will have some difficult times ahead of me especially This Tuesday for my Son is coming out of rehab and I don't know what will happen, he pushes my wrong buttons so will have to find a meeting to keep me in line thanks Diane B
Member: JimM
Location: CenCal
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 4:50:28 PM
When I began to be sober I was going to a really small group 3 or 4 times a week. And pretty soon I begin to feel better and better and look better and better. Started doing the steps with gusto.Everything was peachy keen and I was indeed on a pink cloud . There was a long timer that was there everytime I was and he befriended me and helped me with a lot I didnt understand. He had been sober for many many years and was the poster boy for AA. One night I went to the meeting and I looked at him and he looked like sh**! , and I knew, and it broke my heart. There may come a time when nothing I can do will keep me from being at a meeting looking like sh**, so today I am grateful...
Member: Dennis K
Location: Pa
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 8:17:33 PM
HI, I'm Dennis, alcoholic, almost 2 months sober. About a week after I decided I had to get sober, and really worked hard at the program, there were several small things that just went my way. A very "pink cloud" feeling. I was on a pretty long driving trip and got stuck behind a truck going slow on a 2 lane hiway. It was making me late and I was getting stressed. Then it turned off the road and I was able to make it on time. Another time, I thought I had lost a credit card and was sure I was going to get this big hassle when someone else used it. But then I found it the next day. Another day, I was feeling stressed in traffic, but saw a license plate that reminded me God was with me. There were other things like this, and they all made me feel like Someone else was on my side. I start every day and end every day with a prayer for God to take over my life and my will so I can do His will. So far it's working for me, and this "pink cloud" is a million time better than the black cloud I used to be in. Good topic. Thanks for letting me share.
Member: Mike H.
Location: Jackson MI
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 9:08:34 PM
My "pink cloud" happened in rehab. I finally admitted to someone what I was feeling and was actually listened to. My family could not figure it out although they tried to help. I came away with a sense of well-being that I cannot explain. This lasted for the 14 days I was in treatment. got out is when the real work began and the "real" world closed in on me. I have been struggling for 20 yrs.. I need to go back to the basics and hang around the "winners". This maybe my last chance at sobriety. With God's help and the fellowship I will succeed. Thanks to you all for being here one day at a time.
Member: daryl e
Location: pa
Date: 4/13/2003
Time: 10:09:50 PM
Hi, after several attempts at getting sober i finally found a higher power, even though their is a lot of stress in my life, i am able to have gratitude on a daily basis. this to me is a perfect example of a pink cloud. if i keep it simple,nothing in my life is bad enough to bring me down to a level where i want to go back to a life of misery[drinking]
Member: Allie H.
Location: F.L. B.C.
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 2:04:16 AM
Member: Allie H.
Location: F.L. B.C.
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 2:28:28 AM
I have been sober for 31/2 years now. I remember when I first came in to recovery people telling me I was on a pink cloud, I guess I still am. I hope I never lose my distaste for alohol and drugs. For me the pink cloud is taking responsibility for my choices. Realizing I'm the # 1 contributor to my reality/life. Who ever or what ever is in my life is there, because I want it there or allow it. Since my sobriety I have divorced, graduated, completed 4 college courses, been responsible for 2 children,..... Life is what I make it and when I refuse to take responsibility it can get pretty ugly. Anyway thanks for letting me share.
Member: L-RAY
Location: SCOTLAND
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 7:25:59 AM
When i got sober i dont think i had a honeymoon period! i was to busy rushing along trying to sort out my marriage, and business ect,but it didnt do any good i lost it all anyway! so i began to accept that things wouldnt be going all my way! and i thought the bubble would burst! but i got a good sponser and got on this program and things to-day can be like a pink cloud-- but i have to work this program and help others to recover" and i know that my H.P. will make sure i am ok for to-day! so everybody be safe -regards L-RAY
Member: GenevaC
Location: Commiskey,In
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 9:12:23 AM
Hi Geneva an alcholic and my pink cloud experience was a good one but it stopped. It was wonderful and nothing or nobody could have knocked the smile off of my face. I have since learned that there are going to be pink clouds but they do go away. For me I think we take the small stuff in life for granted and go with it. Alot of times we as alcoholics get taken for granted too. For Diane whose son is coming out of rehab attend alot of meetings and if you don't have one find a sponsor and remember he can only push your buttons if you allow him too. We could all take any reason to drink and there is only one reason to stay sober because you don't want the drink or drug as bad as you thought you did. Life on life's terms is what we all need to learn. The good the bad and the ugly but we are sober and getting stronger everyday. Or I am I think. Thanks for letting me share and if anyone needs to talk e-mail me at Grea105@aol.com Have another 24 on me and my higher power.
Member: Jay T.
Location: Michigan
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 9:50:18 AM
Hi all, Jay alcoholic/addict. I was told early and often in my sobriety that the first year of sobriety is a gift. I didn’t understand that. I worked hard at going to meetings and trying to “get it” until I drove myself crazier (and I started out pretty crazy) wondering whether I would ever understand how AA works. Surrender finally came, however, and life started to look up for me when it became apparent that I didn’t have to have the answers. I only needed to have the faith that continued sobriety would make my life better. I also had the “coincidences” happen to me that served to strengthen my faith that everything was gonna be ok whether I knew how, why or not. The pink cloud came for me when I started to care about other people. The period of time in our recovery when we find out how good it can get (maybe how people are supposed to treat themselves and others) until the reality hits home that we will not be able to maintain this ideal potential. We crash, disappointed in ourselves, but at least aware that we can do better and the ability to do good works lies in our commitment to a sober life. So today I do believe that the first year is a gift because we get to see (most of us for the first time) how helping others helps us more than we could ever imagine. For most of us too, this is our first experience with understanding human nature and admitting we need others. Thanks for letting me ramble.
Member: srikanth
Location: Bahrain
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 9:51:38 AM
Hi, I am Srikanth, an alcoholic, at my third month, the euphoria of being sober was replaced by a sudden state of inertia, I was blank. Now, I was wondering what this was all about. However, I just went to the meetings and from just listening to others, I found some energy flow back. My suggestion for those who are on a pink cloud is: simply just attend meetings and interact with other alkis and the cloud will lift. Thanks, Srikanth
Member: Pete H
Location: AZ
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 11:57:49 AM
Hi there. Pete,a recovering alcoholic. Keep it simple, I was told. So the "pink cloud" you are referring to for me is simply, God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference. Simply serenity,courage, and wisdom. Yours in love and service,Pete H
Member: Kelly M
Location: NH
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 12:16:08 PM
Hi, Kelly an Alkie, I have not had the pink cloud yet but I hope to. I have had that really wonderful adrenaline rush type feeling in other aspects of my life. New love, childbirth, job gratification, childhood awe, feeling at one with God etc. I would love to have it in sobriety and hopefully I will again. I feel happy, peaceful and serene and that is good enough for me. God Bless. Kelly
Member: Norm F.
Location: SC
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 12:30:12 PM
Norm- alcoholic. I was on a pink cloud for awhile. Sometimes I was downright giddy with it. When it stopped I don't really recall. For me my sobriety has been like traveling on a road. Most of the time it would be extremely bumpy. One minute I would be high and next thing I would be low. As the years have passed, the road has smoothed out and my sobriety is pretty level. Yes I have my moments and there has been that "load shift" in my sobriety but I never have thought about a drink through it all. I owe it all to God, the 12 steps, plenty of meetings and the fellewship of AA. It's good to be sober today.
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 1:53:28 PM
thanks GenevaC yes I know he can only push my buttons if I allow him to but have you ever tried to tell a addict the word NO well it is not a pretty site. Fits and throwing things and a fist in my Face and had me shaking so bad I was even shaking in my feet and blood pressure shot up so high my vanes in my arms hurt all over that was right before he went into rehab now when he gets out he will be maybe facing Jail for breaking a law and he will have to get a job so I pray he does get the job and has learned like he says he has it is a long story but I want to stay sober so the meetings will have to be found thanks God Bless Diane B
Member: Geroge R
Location: Just outside Paris
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 3:37:59 PM
41 yrs for me in sobriety...and I have that feeling of being in touch with my surroundings with no conditions attached...acceptance (daily)of what life offers...lessons to learn....people to meet..but for me most of all..it is the unshakeable belief that today I do not have to drink. I have held onto that all these yrs...and I get that (Pink Cloud)if you like because I am so happy I don't drink any more. Bless you all and thankyou for your sobriety.
Member: john m
Location: brooklyn
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 6:14:19 PM
hello everyone, my name is john and i am an alcoholic. in the rooms i go to people talk about being IN a pink cloud, not ON one, so i guess i've always understood the idea a little different: when i'm in a cloud, i can see out but not that well. my vision is impaired. if the cloud is black, it will tint everything black - the world will look dark and mean to me. if the cloud is pink, it will tint everything rosey - the world will seem wonderful. the world is not all dark or all rosey, which is why being in a cloud at all is not the best place to be - but there is dark in the world and there is greatness, and we need to see both in order to maintain the balance we strive for in sobriety. some of us see the greatness for the first time in sobriety, and once we see it, it's all we can see for a while... later, the cloud clears a little. as we life continues to hand us good and bad, we are able to see and respond to both in a real and sober way. today i recognize that part of my life is coming and going from clouds of every color. i learn lessons from looking at the world every which way... for this reason, even a bad mood can have good results. i need to remember that because i have been in a terrible mood for about a week! thank you everyone for letting me share. congratulations and keep coming back to all those in early sobriety.
Member: Chas B.
Location:
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 6:20:33 PM
Great topic! The words "pink cloud" aren't anywhere in the big book, but they do make it into the 12&12. In either case I remember the sensation clearly - my body was beginning to heal, and furthermore, I felt for the first time in years that desparation was coming to a close and that the end of suffering was at hand. It was a fantastic feeling, like drinking too much coffee on a sunny day. I loved the world for the first time in years. What I didn't know is that PINK CLOUDS VAPORIZE! Thank God I had a sponsor who had started the steps with me, so that when the initial euphoria wore off, I had a good foundation beneath me to stand on. What I see everyday is people who remain convinced that the pink cloud is the feeling they'll have for the rest of their lives, so why bother to work the steps? I can honestly say, however, that the peace and freedom that the steps have given me far surpasses any "pink cloud" I rode in those first few months. Thank you for letting me share.
Member: billy j.
Location: scotland
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 8:04:48 PM
thanks for all your sharing. I have had "pink cluds" at differnt times of my sobriety but what really matters to me is the joy I have in having a sober day with no fears of things I have said or done the night before . I no longer have blackouts and wake up dreading the day ahead. I have new found freedom that is based on the AA Programme with God helping me each and every step of the way. you are all thanked from the bottom of my heart. keeping going to meetings helps me realise how blessed I am and how each day is a joy , pink cloud or no pink cloud. Billy
Member: meg
Location: scotland
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 9:01:21 PM
there is a person who has been connected to my family for about 10 years. I know that he is drinking heavly and his wife and family are very distressed. I have had five good non drinking years and although I have not been to AA I feel I am doing ok. I would like to approach this person. But I am not sure if that is the way to go about things. Maybe I could help him. He knows I have been where he is. I think he went to AA before but it didn't work. Is it ok to approach someone and ask if you may help ? Or does this make things worse? Should I just ignore the subject when we meet. He isn't going to bring it up. Should I just shut up and leave it alone?
Member: C.B.
Location: lorain
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 9:18:59 PM
HAY!! MEG I SAY . I GOT today . THANKS IN OUR HIGHER POWER AMEN.
Member: C.B.
Location: lorain
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 9:19:29 PM
HAY!! MEG I SAY . I GOT today . THANKS IN OUR HIGHER POWER AMEN.
Member: Lisa W
Location: Kiawah Island (vacation)
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 10:22:00 PM
I'm on my 42nd day of sobriety and I DO FEEL GREAT. Don't know about that pink cloud though...I'm enjoying knowing I'm not a slave to the drink(for today) and that my body and mind and spirit are seeing more clearly (I like what John from Brooklyn said about being "IN" a pink cloud - not on one). anyway, I'm feeling good and trying to do all of the things I am supposed to -- but really stressing out right now because I'm on vacation -- The closest meeting where I feel safe is more than an hour away in Charleston, SC. I went there with my family tonight and we got lost going AND coming home. I'm afraid to drive there. There are a couple of other night time meetings closer, but, frankly, I don't feel safe. Just off of this beautiful island is the place where the meetings are - and the locals live in metal shacks. I know it sounds elitist, but I don't feel comfortable going to those meetings at night,and neither does my husband! SO, Here I am doing my meeting on line for the first time. I made a commitment to do my 90/90 and I don't want to screw it up. I must say, this is pretty cool if you can't get to a meeting. wonder what my sponsor will say? Does it count? Haven't talked with her today yet.
Member: C.B.
Location: Lorain ,Ohio
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 11:59:33 PM
I can say I'm saying ran from What read 12&12 book its the fourth step FEAR EVERY one has fears the gost called bob's read the forth stepes and twelve traditions Today I fear Women beer and drugs .TOday IS POSSIBLY to moving on in my life I got one son eight years old I don't what to see him out there out running the streets at night just for the day time meeting can help I live in two many meetings for A.A Will find a way myafter care teacher told me Brooklin is tough place sopray for it .I was in SC to A 11 our fishing trip came back in sept about ten year ago looking like a fire tan eeek. HAY stay out of the painted zones then you be ok
Member: C.B.
Location: Lorain ,Ohio
Date: 4/14/2003
Time: 11:59:35 PM
I can say I'm saying ran from What read 12&12 book its the fourth step FEAR EVERY one has fears the gost called bob's read the forth stepes and twelve traditions Today I fear Women beer and drugs .TOday IS POSSIBLY to moving on in my life I got one son eight years old I don't what to see him out there out running the streets at night just for the day time meeting can help I live in two many meetings for A.A Will find a way myafter care teacher told me Brooklin is tough place sopray for it .I was in SC to A 11 our fishing trip came back in sept about ten year ago looking like a fire tan eeek. HAY stay out of the painted zones then you be ok
Member: C.B.
Location: Lorain ,Ohio
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 12:00:45 AM
I can say I'm saying ran from What read 12&12 book its the fourth step FEAR EVERY one has fears the gost called bob's read the forth stepes and twelve traditions Today I fear Women beer and drugs .TOday IS POSSIBLY to moving on in my life I got one son eight years old I don't what to see him out there out running the streets at night just for the day time meeting can help I live in two many meetings for A.A Will find a way myafter care teacher told me Brooklin is tough place sopray for it .I was in SC to A 11 our fishing trip came back in sept about ten year ago looking like a fire tan eeek. HAY stay out of the painted zones then you be ok
Member: Geneva C.
Location: Commiskey,In
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 12:43:00 AM
Geneva here again and just want to say to Diane that I have been there and if you'll send me an e-mail I will explain. As for Meg you can mention maybe do you think you have a problem with alcohol but don't push it will make him resent you and maybe tell you off. Then again if he's ready he might want some help. One day at a time for all of us. Thanks again for letting me share.
Member: janis payton
Location:
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 1:46:24 AM
Member: alfredo
Location: nj
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 4:59:52 AM
hi everyone.....i came into aa via rehab.....thinking i had it made.....i was as high as a kite with in a week......it wasn't until i surrendered that i expierienced some kind of peace......then i began to listen to my sponcer and we started to work the steps......in time i began to feel much better.......today i use that expierience to help others.......thanks for letting me share
Member: robert j.
Location: angel beach
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 11:38:58 AM
Early in sobriety I was told that things get better, then they get worse, then they get real.After a little over 12 years of sobriety I can state that this is a true statement, At the times when things grew dark I used to think it was because I had lost touch with myself, in reality I have come to see that it was at these dark times that I was losing touch with my higher power which yes, I choose to call God. I have seen little "miracles" come about in my life which I could have never accomplished with self will alone. I used to chair meetings in jails and the penitentiary,I would tell those guys that" if I did'nt think this thing worked I would'nt be here".
Member: Susan A.
Location: Vernon, Connecticut
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 11:49:49 AM
Hi, I'm Susan and I'm an Alcoholic. I felt so -good- when I first started really working at not drinking, getting to meetings, talking with a sponsor, trying to ACT in a sober manner each day. It was so wonderful to not be doing things I would feel guilty or remorseful afterwards about. I wasn't lying, cheating, hiding, stealing, etc. anymore, and I loved it. I was also trying to follow through on what I said I'd do (like getting to a meeting, calling my sponsor or others, making coffee every week on time for a meeting, etc). It felt great to approve of myself for the first time in a long time. I heard some people talking about 'coming down from a pink cloud' and it confused me and frightened me. My sponsor said to not worry about it (if you're going to worry, why pray?, and if you're going to pray, why worry?). She said "If I kept on doing what I was doing, I would keep on getting what I was getting". It doesn't matter about this 'pink cloud', whether it stays or goes. If I continue to grow by doing the things that got me sober in the first place, I am able to face whatever life brings me - face everything and recover (the opposite of what I used to do). I believe this program is an ACTION program, and I can get really messed up if I'm in my head by myself - after all, my best thinking got me here in the first place. I'm so glad you all are here - See ya around the tables...
Member: Bill
Location:
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 12:05:13 PM
C.B. please get some help!!!!!
Member: Jim A
Location: Tennessee
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 1:20:12 PM
Pink Clouds..... I was on a pink cloud often during my first year of sobriety. I miss 'em. Thats been a few 24's now. Ive never experienced a 'runners-high', but came close in doing some other things that are good for ya, like walking, etc. Its that warm-fuzzy feeling and for me it was a 'God-thing'. I knew I was doing good, and this was my reward. Kinda tingly all over. Folks in meetings would say, 'watch out for that pink cloud', as though it was a bad thing. I couldnt disagree more. Its a gift. We have earned that little trip of relief from the agony, foreloness, and dispair of alcoholism. Enjoy your cloud. God put it there for you for a reason. Sanity. God Bless...
Member: AZbill
Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 4:30:06 PM
Hi. Bill here, alcoholic from Arizona. The pink cloud is just your body saying Ahhhhh, thank you. On the average it takes 3 to 5 days to detox, In some cases maybe a week. The physical compulsion to drink has left us. The progression of the diease has stopped. We begin to feel better physically. The danger in this is that the newcomer is not aware of this process. They feel so much better they start slacking on on recovery. Get complancent. True the body is generally the first to heal. But then we need the steps or some recovery system that can heal the mind and the spirit. If we slack off on that then we run the risk of drinking again. So enjoy the pink cloud, but know it for what it is. You see, I have been sober a long time, but if I forget even for one minute where I came from, I could find myself back pounding on the bar wondering how in the hell I got there, Thanks for being here, Bill az-bill@mindspring.com
Member: Dennis K
Location: PA
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 9:06:29 PM
Hi, Dennis here, alcoholic 53 days sober. Lisa W, if you can't get to a meeting, use this. I'll bet your sponsor would approve. We'll be here if you have a problem. There are a lot of good advisors here. Enjoy yourself, thank God for your blessings, and keep things simple. You'll do great.
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/15/2003
Time: 9:43:20 PM
Diane here 21 days today (YES)
Member: T-Bone
Location: S.Fl
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 6:17:26 AM
Way to go Diane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Member: cindy P
Location: bristol pa
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 8:44:59 AM
hello everyone, cindy alcholic....i was told i was on a pink early in sobriety....i didn't know anything about feelings but i was feeling something very different....people were telling me to keep coming back, that was new....people told me they would love me till i could love myself, that was new....i think i was alive for the 1st time in my life....anyway no one judged the pink cloud thing just told me"make sure you have your pink parachute" i kept questioning everything and found the 10th step to be my pink parachute....the answers are all in the steps :-D thank you all for being here, just what i needed.
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 9:48:31 AM
Diane day 22 sober hi Geneva I did email you and am waiting for a response maybe you can help me with my Son? or how to handle this in my head, last night he drank and his Dad also drank I was resentful because they both know I have a drinking problem and they still drank My Son got sick so he must have downed the whole bottle of vodka while we where gone car shopping anyway I cleaned up his mess Diane B
Member: Craig L (Dogmanor@yahoo.com)
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 11:20:00 AM
Craig here, another REAL alcoholic (page 21). During my first attempt at sobriety, life was glorious. I was sleeping well, it was spring and I felt awsome. Then uncertainty and fear lead me back to the only solution I knew then. Afterward in the hospital and detox unit, I finally gave up the fight. For the first time I was ready to believe I couldn't keep myself sober. As became willing to fervently work the steps I found a new freedom and peace of mind, I had never known before. I found a personal God. Today the only time I fall from the pink cloud (and I do so often), is when I fail to recognize God as the my source. Misery and suffering are my choice today when I choose to forget God has me exactly where he needs for me to be.
Member: Robert H.
Location: Ohio
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 3:09:42 PM
Robert here, alcoholic. I like what you had to say AZbill. For me, I kept getting warned about the "pink cloud" I was on and couldn't figure out why they were all trying to put a bad light on what seemed like a good thing. And it WAS a good thing! Just like AZbill described, I felt great - like the whole weight of the world had finally been lifted from me. But just like every good thing this alcoholic does, it wasn't enough. When that good feeling started to disipate or, more likely, just started to become the norm. I wanted more! I found myself having urges to find a way to keep it going, ANYWAY I could. When that happended, I was grateful for the warnings for they helped me to realize that what I was feeling was normal. I was able to get through the experience and to go on to experience other wonderful feelings too; some of them during the hardest times of my sobriety. If it wasn't for the warnings, I might've picked up a drink out of frustration, fear, or to get back that high anyway I could. I know, it sounds crazy, drinking to keep a sober high but that's the depth of my insanity with the disease. Like AZbill said, enjoy the highs, but accept them for what they are and if we're lucky, one day we can just enjoy being in the middle. Pass.
Member: Pat
Location:
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 3:16:31 PM
Thanks, Rich, this topic is so important. A friend fell off the cloud two days before her 1st anny., and we spent lots of time talking about how 'crushed' she felt to learn AAs can be #$^%@ too. My message to her and anyone else who's dealing with the cloud issue is: the AA program is perfect, the people attempting to work this program as a way of life aren't.We are looking for progress not perfection. We are so far from perfect no matter the length of sobriety. It's a kicker but it really does come down to our problems with people, places, and things. The cloud will come back, and it will go away again, on and on.
Member: Bill P.
Location:
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 8:39:32 PM
Hi-My name is Bill and I'm pretty sure I'm an alcoholic. Found this site and checking it out. I'm trying real hard not to drink today. Thanks
Member: Victor M
Location: New York, New York
Date: 4/16/2003
Time: 10:56:48 PM
hi, Victor, alcoholic. My pink cloud was brought on by a cessation of crippling hangovers, a realization that I could do my job well when I showed up for it, clean clothes, a refrigerator with some food in it (my own 1/2 gallon of orange juice!), time spent with fun people after meetings who knew the real me and still wanted something to do with me. And the beginning of hope for a future. The pink cloud went away when I started to focus on what I didn't have. Gratitude is the best tool I have. If I stop and look at what is troubling me on a daily basis and view it/them in light of the fact that today I am alive and sober and have choices, I begin to see things rightly and in their proper places. I should be dead, or at least dying, drunk, homeless, alone and hopeless. No shit. I am not Thanks to God and you people. And I too am doing a 90/90 and this meeting certainly counts if you believe it counts. I do.
Member: T-Bone
Location: S. Fl.
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 6:05:08 AM
welcome Bill P. If you want what we have, find a meeting and listen to what is being said. Keep coming back.
Member: Will F.
Location: SC
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 9:04:03 AM
Bill P.- This is not A.A. lingo but Yoda once said, "do or do not, there is no try". Don't drink and go to a meeting no matter what. We're praying for.
Member: Charlotte S
Location: Kaohsiung TW
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 9:42:51 AM
Hi, I'm an alcoholic named Charlotte. Thank you to all who made this meeting very meaningful to me this week. Like others, I am unable to attend meetings in person right now, so am ever so grateful to have this one. Please Diane B, seek out our sister programme Al-Anon for your relations with your drinking family. I have had more than 12 years sobriety, and still live with my husband who drinks. Also, two of our adult children also drink, however, they are in their thirties, so no longer live with us, but dealing with the drinking while you wish to remain sober can be a daunting task. I have been attending Al-Anon meetings for the past nine years to assist in my living life on life's terms. I wish for you the great healing I have had, and rest in the knowledge that you shall get what you need from Al-Anon. Sincerest best wishes to you Diane.
Member: RICHAD B
Location: KANSAS
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 11:03:15 AM
richard a drunk from kansas to bill p thats the only requriments is not too drink today. good job so far now try an find ameeting or call somebody
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 11:29:44 AM
hi Diane here day 23 sober ok Charlotte S I will in fact that was what I was looking for when I found this group. I've looked in the phone book but where do you find Al-Anon meetings? I found AA meeting no Al-Anon meetings? any one have a good link I sure would appreciate it if they stuck it up in here Thanks Diane B
Member: Pete H
Location: AZ
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 11:38:41 AM
Hi Pete here an alcoholic and an alanon member too. Diane B., I suggest you go to an OPEN AA meeting ( that's a meeting all are welcome to attend )and someone will be able to help you find an alanon meeting. Also the AA hot line in your comunity might have a meeting list for you. God Bless you in your effort to help yourself!
Member: Pete H
Location: AZ
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 11:38:43 AM
Hi Pete here an alcoholic and an alanon member too. Diane B., I suggest you go to an OPEN AA meeting ( that's a meeting all are welcome to attend )and someone will be able to help you find an alanon meeting. Also the AA hot line in your comunity might have a meeting list for you. God Bless you in your effort to help yourself!
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 1:31:24 PM
thanks Pete, I did find a online Al Anon meeting and it starts tonight so will try that out too Diane B
Member: John G
Location: Maryland
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 4:47:53 PM
John here, grateful to be sober! I've never liked the term "pink cloud." I suppose it's a time when the body has rid itself of alcohol and the brain starts to feel some light and hope. The term gives one the sense that it is not a legitimate feeling, that it's a passing phase. The truth is, we are letting God in, whether it's a new-found look at the sun in the sky, or the feeling that things are going to be OK. I think it's a spiritual experience. It's a belief that alcohol doesn't have the fatal hold it has on us like it did. What I believe is that we are going to have good days and bad days, that the pink cloud can return again and again, that it is becomes more stable, and we grow. I guess the danger is believing that our troubles with alcohol are behind us and we won't ever drink again. The fact is, a lot of new people pick up a drink after a pink cloud because they are so disspointed to fall back to earth. I think that's dangerous. We have to understand that bad day, horrible day, war, peace, rain, sun, no matter what's going on--the disease of alcholism is still inside of us, that external things will never change that. I have found it best to divorce whatever happens outside of me to whether I'll drink or not. In other words, the world keeps changing, good or ill, and we can't have a drink no matter what. God bless you if you're feeling the possibilities that life is going to be successful without alcohol, that you and your higher power are going to have the answer to your life-long problem. I don't call that a pink cloud, I call that a gift, a reawakening. Just remember that passess, too, but not the disease. Never pick up a drink, whether there's a pink cloud or not. God Bless, John Maryland
Member: unha p
Location:
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 5:24:47 PM
Sober todays. Life is not good or bad. It just is. I haven't made any amens because there were no people to make ammends to. I had a job and a friend when I statted going to meetings, but lost the job and the friend as a result of following a sponsor's suggestions and listening to the rubbish at meetings. I don't have much left in my life and what's left won't last much longer. I had a drink a few months ago because I became very depressed. If I had a job and some friends I know I'd be happy again. I don't expect understanding and no I don't need a meeting, I need a job. It's good to have a government web site to write in to. I need the things the rubbish in the meetings took away. Some spiritual experience. Unhappy and unrecovered from the effects of aa.
Member: Diane B
Location: Oklahoma
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 6:06:32 PM
unhap it's not AA that makes you not drink it is you and your Higher Power they say go to AA for extra help right? I have not been to aa yet I use this site and the new comers site and it is helping me just to read what different people on here go through and like someone told me you take the good and leave the bad that you hear or learn in AA I'm so sorry you don't have a job (23 days sober) Diane
Member: siobhan
Location: washington
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 7:46:51 PM
hi all. siobhan here, alcoholic. the 'pink cloud' of sobriety, i remember it well. i first encountered it during the weeks of IOP (intensive outpatient treatment) and i truly believed that not drinking was going to be no problem at all. i mean, it felt so good to not drink, have all that support, feel like i was doing the right thing. that lasted until i got out of treatment. once i actually had to start living my life without the constant support of counselors and other addicts, i felt overwhelmed. that's why going to aa mtgs (online AND in person) helps so much. at least that is what i have come up with. thanks for letting me share. God bless.
Member: Judi
Location: NC
Date: 4/17/2003
Time: 8:17:06 PM
I'll never forget my pink cloud. After 44 days in Ft.Lauderdales finest nut house I went to a half-way huse. I was beyond "on top of the world." I felt safe. I had hope. I was grateful for everything!! Toilet paper!! Can you amagine life without it? I crashed of course but still in a safe zone. I wish I could keep that "new to life" feeling always but..... Good to remember. Thanks. Judi
Member: ROSS S.
Location: B.R. LA.
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 12:22:48 AM
pink cloud (ha ha) For me when I got to AA,it was like finding land after floating inthe ocean forever barely hanging on for dear life an being totally hopless. No matter what life throws at me,if i don't drink or drug every day has a pink cloud to it.I've learned in AA to change through pain & healing.The bad thoughts of yesterday are'nt there because of the power of pray. So after 11yrs plus a few months of being sober a higher power is my way to get to a pink cloud. I'm not the master HE is.
Member: ROSS S.
Location: B.R. LA.
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 12:25:54 AM
pink cloud (ha ha) For me when I got to AA,it was like finding land after floating inthe ocean forever barely hanging on for dear life an being totally hopless. No matter what life throws at me,if i don't drink or drug every day has a pink cloud to it.I've learned in AA to change through pain & healing.The bad thoughts of yesterday are'nt there because of the power of pray. So after 11yrs plus a few months of being sober a higher power is my way to get to a pink cloud. I'm not the master HE is.
Member: Nadine C,
Location: Florida
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 1:11:18 AM
Member: john b
Location: KY
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 2:43:30 AM
John, alcoholic. I remember my pink cloud in early sobriety and often missed it. I bottomed out emotionally in my 15th year of sobriety and threw myself into the program like never before. I got a new sponsor, home group and formally worked through the steps again. I can honestly say I've been on a pink cloud again, from time to time, in my 16th and 17th years. I know that soon reality will set in and hopefully a more consistent peacefulness. For now, though, I'm so grateful for AA. Our beautiful program continues to save my life, one day at a time. Thanks.
Member: T-Bone
Location: S. Fl
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 6:25:55 AM
Unhap, "just is" is a bad place in life to be. I don't think that everything good that has happened in my life since sobriety is a direct result of aa nor do I think everything bad was either. But, I know that the way I deal with these things is a direct result of my commitment to a lifestyle based on the 12 steps and my spirituality, these things I learned in aa. Hang in there and things will get better or they won't but your attitude and commitment may make it easier to deal with. I'll have good thoughts for you this day.
Member: David W
Location: New Jersey
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 9:39:08 AM
David here, an alcoholic. Looking back, I think my pink cloud was when I started to believe that for once I was on the right track. Something was different after I made it to some AA meetings - I could see that other's stopped their drinking and got their lives back and I started to believe this would happen for me too. I was scared, but I felt deep down that going to AA was right for me - I knew I belonged. The pink cloud feeling was good. Up til then, I hated myself for drinking when I promised myself I wouldn't and knew it was bad for me -so putting those 1st few days together without drinking was really amazing. I thought drinking caused all my problems and if I could just stop drinking everything would be ok - I thought my problems would be solved just like that- at that point you could say I was in/on a pink cloud. Later I learned that my real problem was my thinking and just "not drinking" wasn't enough. Living life without drinking and without a action on the steps lead to misery for me. I'm sure things would have been worse if I drank. My thought is to try not to let my pink cloud feelings ease me out of doing all the steps. I learned the hard way that life without drinking and without solid step work doesn't lead to happy, joyous and free - it leads to the stuff on page 52 of the BB. I feel lucky to have found AA, not everyone gets a chance to follow such a great program. Best wishes to all.
Member: Kim D.
Location: Bridgewater
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 11:35:16 AM
Hello everyone. Kim here, alcoholic. I can't add much to this discussion that already hasn't been said about the "pink cloud." One thing I'd like to say is this: Eventually life on life's terms happens to all of us - things don't always go our way or we have to deal with loss (financial, emotional, physical) or we get hurt by someone - and that pink cloud bursts. THAT'S when we realize how much we need the loving support of our fellow alkies and the fellowship of AA. If we are firmly planted IN the program, then we have less chance of falling OUT of the program when that cloud bursts. Thanks and have a really nice Holiday weekend.
Member: em
Location: se
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 11:55:00 AM
im new to this im not sure im rea
Member: em
Location: se
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 11:55:01 AM
im new to this im not sure im rea
Member: em
Location: se
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 11:55:03 AM
im new to this im not sure im rea
Member: em
Location: se
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 11:55:03 AM
im new to this im not sure im rea
Member: Nadine C.
Location: Cocoa,Florida
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 12:20:23 PM
Hi, Nadine here,I'm an alcoholic and for me the pink cloud was realizing I didn't think of drinking all the time, and I wasn't planning on how to get the next drink. Realizing that other people cared about me, and I was ok the way I was, not having to pretend to be someone else. AA has been a life saver for me going on 22 years,with the help of AA and God, I am sober today one day at a time. Work the steps and keep the faith in God. NadineN
Member: carol h
Location: nova scotia
Date: 4/18/2003
Time: 10:03:30 PM
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Member: slash
Location: eastern penna
Date: 4/19/2003
Time: 10:44:14 AM
being sober pushed me to the steps, the steps pushed me to god and god has made this life that unha p speaks of, liveable. life blows quite often, but if you fold up and give in to the pressure you die. physically, mentally and spiritually. so what is the solution? for me, i draw my strength these days from my history of hopelessness and how i never thought i'd survive, let alone get through the crap. but i did, and knowing i have made it through some tuff stuff, it gives me hope that i will once again land on my feet. as far as god is concerned? i'm not always certain he exists,especially in the world today. but i DO KNOW that when my reliance was on him, if only for strength, i was better equipped to deal with the shit cards life deals us all. hope this gives someone the hope or strength they need, when they need it. me, i hardly ever knew what i needed until after i got it. have a great day
Member: Nadine C.
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Date: 4/19/2003
Time: 12:40:19 PM
Hi! Nadine here again and I'm an alcoholic,enjoy reading the comments in this discussion,and I too, have learned to take the good things in life along with the bad. Like they say this too shall pass, is what I remember when things go to shit. With my faith in God, I know that good things will come my way too. At least today I'm sober and can remember what is happening, when before I was always in a blackout or too drunk to know what was happening. Have a happy Easter and take it one day at a time. Nadine
Member: ROBERT T
Location: BEAVERTON OR
Date: 4/19/2003
Time: 2:13:43 PM
BETTER GET MY TWO CENTS IN BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS OVER TOMORROW PINK CLOUD IS A GOOD HIGH TO BE ON BUT I THINK PEOPLE MISTAKE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS IN EARLY RECOVERY I THINK YOU CAN BE ON A PINK CLOUD WHENEVER YOU CHOOSE. I RELLY NEED CORRESPONDENCE WITH OTHERS ON-LINE SO IF YOU DONT MIND E-MAIL DROPME A LINE TITUS4727@HOTMAIL.COM THANKS ROBERT
Member: stew g
Location: to,ca
Date: 4/19/2003
Time: 4:59:31 PM
stew, alkie here.bless you all in your recovery. i agree with susan in vernon that pink cloud is not important because it is changeable while life is not. life is. very well said unhap. i am returning post relapse (had 7 yrs then found out just how cunning this disease is) now i have 4 months and am very aware of simply being present. nothing is too great or too awful. i am working my life AAs way and sometimes it is wonderful sometimes it is not but i am begining ...to know a new freedom and a new happiness. thankyou heres to another 24
Member: Eddie B
Location: Miami
Date: 4/19/2003
Time: 10:38:27 PM
Pink Clouds are ok...just make sure you have your pink parachute. DOS 2-09-88
Member: LB
Location: Missouri
Date: 4/20/2003
Time: 8:11:05 AM
hello new here. Viewing and full of hope.
Member: Rich
Location:
Date: 4/20/2003
Time: 9:01:44 AM
Thank you everyone for your posts on the pink cloud or honeymoon phase of recovery. They were very helpful. Like someone said the important part is when the reality finally sets in to make sure you are working the program!