Member: david b             9/8/81
Location: Idaho Falls (BIMINI)
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 19:19:44

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Hi everybody,

I been have a bunch of fun!

It's been a touch of work but it has been fun.

As far as the future of this site is concerned I have already thrown my hat into the ring with Barry. He has remained level headed enough since I've been around this camp for me to trust his judgement. I don't believe any of our trusted servants will act out of emotion when it comes to this page.

The WebBBS suggestion may be more than is necessary with the way the delphi forum has been working out. I don't know. I do like the way that program manages boards with a whole lot of traffic. But if the CP guidelines are followed the existing format would be sufficient for this board. Of course I am talking about a perfect world scenario and this is far from a perfect world.

For the folks that are having a hard time getting into the friends in recovery message board you are probably trying to use an existing sign in name. I had to use DavidB12 so the forum would accept my name. Avoid using any spaces in your sign in name. Make certain you use a valid email address. I would also suggest you have the sign in page save your password so that all you have to do when accessing the board is push the "log in" button.

My delphi forum is not an AA meeting. We accidentally have AA meetings there but it was designed as an overflow site for those of us that would like to exceed the CP guidelines, posting more than once a day and more than 300 words. You can sign as turtlebutt if you would like, we don't really need you to use your real name as your sign in. The doors are open and we invite anyone that has a hankering to share a little to drop on over and say "howdy".

Ooops, this went 336 words, sorry bout that!


Member: Dr. Alkie
Location: LAMC
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 19:48:05

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Tradition Four--Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or A.A. as a whole.

CALL 911 NOW!


Member: John P
Location: W.Pa.
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 20:52:55

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My name is Jack, a grateful alcoholic. Any recovery is due to the program -- I did not believe when I came, so I would be a fool to claim the results. I owe AA the whole thing.

Last night was the first time I looked at the Cyber version. (I diddled around with this computer and missed my live meeting this morning.) Nothing replaces the face-to-face version -- without it even the great lit has a hard time. Still, all alcoholics help me make another day: the dry ones giving hope and the wets sharing reality.

To those I've been reading, thanks for sharing.


Member: Tracy D.
Location: Bowling Green Mo.
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 21:50:40

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My name is Tracy and I'm a recovering alcoholic.March 7 will be 90 days for me.I use to think my life was strange until I tried it sober,now its bizzare! I just found this sight,and boy am I glad. I was'nt going to do anything but read but the more I read the more I felt compelled.Now I know where to go when I need a different perspective,and there are some diverse points of view. These days I'm new to a lot of things this place, being sober,computers,friends who are not using(GOD knows I need them)and especially my life.It was'nt until recently that I (really) came to believe in a POWER greater than myself,and things began to change.I now realize that I was'nt living I was existing.My whole life has changed into something to be thankful for not hid from.SO in closing I'd like to say I love and you all,God bless.

P.S Put the swords and sheilds away! I may be new to this, but even I know that we don't have to take on the world...YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! PEACE!


Member: Kerry B.  3/21/80
Location: Idaho
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 22:48:27

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Way to go Tracy!! 90 days, a day at a time!!

Hang on, you will have more friends than you ever imagined possible. No more "aquaintences", but truly caring and loving friends. With the world at your fingertips (the web) it is even more awesome!!

Thanks for sharing, I needed to hear what you posted.


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chgo (It's flaking outside)
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 23:18:44

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Welcome, John P. and Tracy D., My name is Jim and I'm a grateful recovering Alcoholic...

I'm the official greeter here... got turned down at Walmart (they told me to be friendly, courtious and honest... so I greeted the customers with a smile, and told them to shop at K-mart... didn't go over well with the management)

Everybody moved out... they're all over at db's new site on Delphi... once again... they wouldn't let me in. I think they're starting a new sect of A.A... A.A.A. Alcoholics Anonymous with an Attitude... hehehe. No that they're not recovering alcoholics... who am I to take anyones inventory... it's just an added dimension to the program.

I'm not bitter though... I just can't get in...I ams what I ams and that's all that I ams. I love popeye, he's my hero.

I like both of you already... not that that matters to you whether I like you or not... but I hope it does... cause I sense a no bullshit type typing style in you post...

When someones asks me..." Hey, Jim... how the hell did you stop drinking?" I tell them I had nothing to do with it... Then of course they have to pursue the matter by asking who did. I look 'em right in the eyes and tell them " the doorknob did"... they usually understand after that.?!?...

Keep coming back... we could use a few good men and women like you two.


Member: Mr. Martini
Location: Ward C.
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 23:26:45

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Hey, Nurse Ratchett... this is Mr. martini... I think R.P. Macmurphy escaped... Chief through the sink through that window over there... and the whole cukoos nest escaped... Even Billy B.B.Biiilly BababaBabbit. I raise ya' a dime.


Member: Sam S (female)
Location: kansas
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 23:34:41

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Jim R......Not everyone has left the cp. Until or if it shuts down, I will be here as often as I can. There are alot of really neat people on the coffee pot and I intend to make contact as often as I want and when necessary to my sobriety.....Welcome to the newcomers and those new to this site. This is the first AA site that I stumbled in on in cyberspace. These people and this site have been here for me when I needed it most and when I didn't think I needed it. Been coming here since September 98. I am truly grateful, today.


Member: Sam S (female)
Location: kansas
Date: 06 Mar 1999
Time: 23:36:47

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Jim R......Not everyone has left the cp. Until or if it shuts down, I will be here as often as I can. There are alot of really neat people on the coffee pot and I intend to make contact as often as I want and when necessary to my sobriety.....Welcome to the newcomers and those new to this site. This is the first AA site that I stumbled in on in cyberspace. These people and this site have been here for me when I needed it most and when I didn't think I needed it. Been coming here since September 98. I am truly grateful, today.


Member: Jo D
Location: Maine
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 00:18:05

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Mouse, I am praying for your dog. I have 5 dogs and my husband and I refer to them as our kids, love them so much. Enjoy the CP, even though there is some bickering going on now most of it is full of love and support. I'm new to this site but want to keep coming back. I say a thank you every day to my HP for being sober another day. Bless you all.


Member: Kathy
Location: N.Y.
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 00:22:53

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Hi, My name is Kathy and Iam an alcoholic. This is my first time in here and Iam not sure what to say. I'll keep it simple and come back.


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 00:41:28

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Hi gang. Just got back from a speakers meeting. It was really great the speaker was talking about the spiritual aspect of the program. I went with a group of friend and we stopped at a restraunt before the meeting the was about 15 of us. We did even cause any trouble and nobody was yelling obsinities at the restaraunt. We were all pretty civil (for alkies). Some of these folks are planning to go sky diving this summmer. They believe that God's want us to be happy. So we are doing our darndest to have sober fun in the fellow ship. I think it important to show the new person that you can have fun without alcohol. Just thought I would stop in and see how you folks were doing here. Well back to Bimini for me.


Member: Jim R.
Location: the bathroom
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 00:44:15

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Hi, Sam... I like you, too... always did... not that that matters to you if you like it that I like you or not, but I do, if you don't mind... I don't... do you?... if it's okay...I mean... you know what I mean....sheez... I'm so confused... not really... I just like to say that I am... no what I mean? I know you do.

Have a great evening... keep coming back... I will... will you?... I hope so... please... I don't want to be the greeter no more... but I will if I have to... can someone take over for me for awhile... I have to go to the bathroom... might be awhile... hope I don't get kicked offline... I'll try to be Quick... take over for me, Sam... got it... I'll be back in a few.


Member: Sundance
Location:
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 01:28:08

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Sundance here, Just dropped by to say high, and wish all of you sic, nice people that I am still 99.99999% alcohol free: some alcohol is naturaly produced through any number of ways. So, I figure that I'm still abstenant.

Zane last time I was here you were playing the colorfull martyr. I thought that you said that you were leaving... Is your other words as meaningffull as those. I wasn't going to say anything but you still seem to be a regular, jump off the fence brother, are you a member here or not. You can send your money to pass the hat, for they surely will not bill you, silly.

Sundance


Member: david b         9/8/81
Location: Idaho Falls (BIMINI)
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 01:44:32

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Hey now Jimmy my man, get it on back here, its been more than a couple minutes.

You are gettin me into trouble now guy. I have been working real hard to keep from violating the guidlines and now I have to come in here for my second post of the day to let you know that I'm not outta here either. I'm just trying to honor the doggone guidlines. Do you have any idea how hard it is for me to do that??? I'mean I am finding myself sitting on my hands for godsake. Its almost like gettin sober all over again.

Tim, Barry, Glen I hope you guys understand the sacrafice (SP) I'm making here. I feel practically Mother Teresa-ish.

Art, the things you need to start a new AA meeting are a resentment, a coffee pot and a big book. You foregot to mention the big book, there wasn't any resentment involved in the setting up of the bimini site, and I still can't find the coffee pot over there. Thats why I keep on comin back, for the coffee I can get over here.

Oh yeah Jim, I think the reason you are having a hard time with your email is that underline you have between the chef and the cec. Could you maybe set up an email account elsewhere and delete that pesky little underline? Bet you could get on then.

Kathy, sounds like you've been around the tables before??

Awfully glad to have you with us Shannon T.

NewBeastie, I'm sorry you HAD to come back, I know you would have liked to have spent some more time on the island, the one without telephones. We'll try to keep you comfortable till you readjust.

Where the hell are ya keeping yourself Tom T??, fishin must be real good.

Oh by the way Jim R,,, jrr has been able to make it on,,, I won't say any more cause I'm way over my 2nd 300. I just can't stay away from this place.

david


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chicago
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 02:04:12

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Kathy... sorry, just got back from the bathroom... I forgot to greet you... How are you? You, my dear, are most definitely welcome. You don't have to say anything... Just sayin hi makes me smile... just keep coming back... It's a simple program for complicated people.

Since business is slow(db stole all the clients...disgruntled custumers...he he) I'm not bitter... I just couldn't get in... And besides, I'm trying to do my part....

for those who might of missed it earlier... I was fired from Walmart and am now the official greeter here at the coffee pot... do I hear a motion?

I'd like to leave you with a little quote from one of our founding fathers of the program of Alcoholics Anonymous... Dr. Bob (My personal favorite)

"I spend a great deal of time passing on what I learned to others who want and need it(sobriety) badly"

There were four simple things that Bob had in his sobriety that helped him carry the message to countless thousands who followed him

1. Sense of duty

2. It was a pleasure to him

3. Because in "passing the message to the still suffering alcoholic, he was paying his debt to the man (Bill W.) who took the time to pass the message on to him.

4. Also because, every time he did it, he was taking out a little more insurance for himself against a possible slip.

I love that man!

To all newcomers... call your local imformation operator for an AA hotline... It can not only save your life... but will give you something to live for. God Bless!

Yours in the fellowship Jim R.


Member: Sheryl
Location: Ga
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 02:21:01

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Evening..

Strange day. Off early for a change. Came home, biding my time till meeting time. Was watching a movie, Delores Claborne..was watching a girl in it pour a scotch, and WHAM.. the urge hit... big time. Then the tape started.. ya'll know the one.. "Hmm, well if I just didnt drink at home, and only had 2 or 3 it would be ok". My mind ran with that for a few minutes, gaining strength the whole time. Thing is, I never wanted to only have a couple.. I drank because of what it did to me, stopping befroe that happened always seemed to defeat the purpose somehow. Bout 10 minutes into this, I almost had myself convinced that it would all be ok if I just drank occassionally. To the point of actually thinking of getting in my car and going somewhere to have one. I had rejected the idea of calling anyone, cause in my mind, I didnt need to , I mean, it was gonna be ok right? Then, still sitting there, I started thinking about the last night I drank. And how I felt. One thought led to another, and I remembered all the times I was gonna have just a "couple" and ended up blacked out. I asked, once again, for HP to give me just a little relief from these thoughts. The thought did not go away, but what came to mind was to get up and go on down to the meeting. Thats what I did. Sat thru the meeting, told them what was on my mind, and hung out for couple hours after listening to the noodlers on their guitars and talking. I feel better now. I dont want to have a couple. It also occured to me while listening to them play , that non alcoholics would not be bothered by not having any. Kinda shot my whole theory about I could have acouple.

As fucked up as my thinking is, I am glad it is not up to me to keep me sober. I just gotta want it more than a want a drink. Someone reminded me of that tonight. I am glad that for today, I do.

Peace


Member: Brian B.
Location: Rotherham, S. Yorks, UK
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 04:42:44

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Jim R, be careful of labelling yourself the official "Greeter". In that heathen place the other side of Hadrian`s Wall, Scotland, "to greet" is - to cry. Ask that bleeding heart, John Mc, he`s been "greetin` all o`er" since Zane`s gone off on a mega-sulk, - Ya, boo, sucks.

Kathy from NY, pleased to meet you, I discovered this site only 2 weeks ago and have made a number of friends, join in, even on the controversy, healthy debate never harmed AA, it`s bigger than any individuals.

Sheryl Ga, thanks for your share, it rattled my cage. I have a story where I was watching TV, around Xmas time and there was an advert for White Port; and it struck me - I had never tasted white port. The feelings grew, just like you described, I would never taste white port; one of life`s great experiences was denied me, "Normal" people can drink white port, why can`t I; Poor me,- poor me, (next stage is pour me another!). If somehow, miraculously, a bottle of white port had appeared at my side, I would have drunk it, I`m sure. Then, fortunately, sanity returned and the moment passed. However, I had to recognise it for what it was, it`s not "if the thought of a drink returns" it`s "When". The point is, this occurred after many years of sobriety, it just proved to me how cunning, baffling and powerful this Alcoholism is, always lying in wait. I use it to illustrate 2 themes, a)- Why I`m still around, (I`ll always be an Alcoholic) and b) - I can cope with the big things, bereavement, divorce, new job, moving etc, it`s the silly little day-to-day feelings that can put me at risk, this is where the day-to-day experiences of my fellow AA colleagues is important, new or old.

Thanks for being here, everyone, Brian.


Member: Bonnie C - 5/30/80
Location: Seattle
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 05:40:08

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Hi extended family, bonnie/alcoholic here (((ROOM-HUG))) man i love you drunks & druggies, if I could I'd give ya'll a great big in person hug. wanted to respond to something I read, I am not responsible for my first thought, only the entertaining of that thought. I am going to think about drinking now and then but when the thought arises I pray it away. always works. at 7 1/2 yrs sober was at a restaurant and saw a carafe of wine go by our table, started entertaining that thought, ended up on my knees in the middle of the road in front of the liquor store begging God to keep me sober. Dangerous thinking for this drunk, so i choose not to go there, --- someone mentioned a terrible headache at 3 or 4 days sober, my friend, that is a hang over, go to your local health food store and read up on b vitamins and molybdenum & alpha-ketoglutaric acid & vit c. --- mom died when i was 12 days sober, put 14yr old daughter in juvie twice, left kids, husb, dog, cat, good career, house overlooking ocean in san diego, 3 weed whackers & everything that spelled security at 2yrs sober, been fired, moved many times, remarried at 10yr sober and divorced at 12, all possessions stolen at 13yrs sober, (that was part of a life changing wonderful miracle) disappointment, betrayal, lonliness, etc etc etc, ALL WITHOUT A DRINK i hung in there till the miracle happened, havent had a day without hope, love, peace and serenity in over 4yrs. dont know exactly when it happened but it has, it hasnt gone away even when the stuff is hitting the fan. God can see the big picture, I cant, he knows exactly who and what I need and if it is not good for this alkie, i am very willing to give it to Him even if its something or someone i am addicted to, i will surrended when it starts to feel too uncomfortable for not only my sobriety but my mental well being & quality of life. YOU NEVER HAVE TO DRINK AGAIN NO MATTER WHAT! NO EXCUSE IS GOOD ENUF --- God Bless all who venture here, love and hugs, bon -- bonzoc@webtv.net -- to those i owe email, please be patient, really exhausting last couple of weeks.


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 07:24:03

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Good morning all.

Tracey--Congratulations on 3 months!! I'm so happy you came here and shared that with us. Please keep coming back! We need you.

Welcome to Jo D. and Kathy--Glad you found us here.

Sheryl--Thanks for sharing that. While I was reading your post, I was thinking about this guy I heard a year or so ago. He telling his story and talking about all these different things he used to drink. He went on and on about it, until it got to the point that every time he mentioned a brand of alcohol, I swear I could actually taste it! It was very strange. I couldn't wait until he shut up! LOL!

When I was about 4 or 5 months sober, I still was harboring the notion that I might not be a REAL alcoholic. Or if I was, I was sure I was a very MILD one. (I was truly one sick chick!) Anyway, one day I called off work because I'd made up my mind I was going to drink. I got all dolled up, jumped in my car, had decided to go to this little country bar so my husband or any of my family or friends would see me, and drove off thinking, "I just know it will be ok THIS time". I felt really strange when I walked into that bar. I sat down and ordered a Coke. I had decided maybe I'd better have a little something to eat first so my stomach wouldn't get upset. Besides, it was still morning and I knew only REAL alcoholics drank in the morning. So I ate something and then ordered another Coke while keeping my eye on the clock. The whole time I've got all this AA bullshit going through my mind and I'm getting very uncomfortable. Finally this old guy walks in that I'd known for a long time and says, "Hey Teri, it's good to see you. Let me buy you a beer". I think my heart almost stopped, and I couldn't beleive the words that came out of my mouth. I said,"No thanks Scrappy. I don't drink anymore" That was definitely God doing for my dumb ass what I couldn't do for myself. I got the hell out of there. I thanked God a million times on the way home. This deal does work!

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Love and hugs to all..............


Member: Sam S
Location: Kansas
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 07:51:21

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Hey, Jim R.......Believe it or not, I did understand that post that you addressed to me. How sick is that? LOL!!!!! As far as welcoming the new people last night while you were in the bathroom, I apparently went to bed before you got off the toilet.........Anyway, welcome to all the new people and all of my new friends of Bill W. I do have an attitude of gratitude today. I will be coming back to this site and to all my rooms of AA. They saved my life and the life of my family. The fact that I have a family that stuck around through my crap has to be a God thing. Anyway, have a great day all!!!!!!!


Member: Kim D
Location: Florida
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 08:35:39

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Good Morning to All at the CP, Kim D., Alcoholic/Addict here!

Just want to say a special thanks to (((GLEN))) for posting those AA sites. Great stuff, I spent a couple of hours there reading. It totally changed the course of my day. Renewed my gratitude for Bill W., Dr. Bob and all the "oldtimers".

(((TRACEY)))Congrats on 90 days. Keep it up! The "Promises" are coming true for all of us who stick with it!

(((Kathy)))I've only posted a couple of times myself - so you're not the only "new kid" Let's find a couple of chairs and get comfy.

(((Sheryl in GA)))I have those experiences too!!! Good to have a plan for when those moments hit, as they surely do. Pray, call your sponsor, go to a meeting and pray some more. It's good to find out that you can have those thoughts and feelings and you don't HAVE to drink. That was a revelation to me!! Glad you got thru it.

Hope you all have a good Sunday!! Thanks for letting me share,

Kim


Member: Bill J. 12 19 75
Location: Kingsvill Texas
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 09:37:22

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Hi my cyber friends. Sheryl dont't let those thoughts of drinking linger or they will succede in getting you started again. as in Teri's post sometimes God will keep us sober when we are playing with it but he won't keep us sober against our will.Reread Kim & Bonnie C. post good advise.

Have had the blas since getting out of the hospital and dealing with the wife's back pain. She is doing better since the pain specialist gave her a interdurmal shot. It beats surgery but our plans for travel this spring and summer are on hold. Guess God wants me to stay here a while. still have not learned how to reinspire myself so just work through it and use my gratitude list when I can force myself to. Think what I realy want is to feel sorry for myself. I know that brings on depression but I'm so good at it and it comes naturally so its a constant battle at times. This too shall pass LOVE to my cyber friends.


Member: Albert
Location: GC IL
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 09:41:50

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Hello everyone another day sober it's starting to get scary. Not used to this my head is clear amd it seems that my mind wont shut off. Got to love it all I want is one more day, That will make seven, seven days with out a drink that may not seem like a lot to some but to me its a wonderment. Thanks everyone just reading what you have to say helps me make it when the sun goes down


Member: Jimmy C.
Location: Little Rock, AR
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 09:43:15

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who move to Wichita Falls Tx (I think) Mary Carol V. If anyone Knows of here please post it here.an trying to find an old friend in the program


Member: David K.
Location: Cin. Oh
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 10:34:52

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Hi im David and yes I am a drunk. Just found the coffee pot this morning. Thankyou for being there.


Member: oldtimer
Location:
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 10:43:54

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Stick around newcomers, but be warned you will find yourself sick of hearing from only certain ones whining about not being able to drink.YOU newcomers remember do not think about a drink, stay busy, do not entertain fanciful stories of I wish I could,YOU cannot pick up even one. The first one will get you drunk!!!!!!!!


Member: Eric H.
Location: snow, rain, snow......make up your mind, mother nature
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 10:59:22

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Eric Alkie.

Thank you God.

Albert...you keep that gratitude up, my friend. You're making me grateful just listening to you.

Sheryl....man, that is scary. There's a story in the BB that was very similar to Teri's story. The insanity of that thinking is exactly why I don't stop coming to AA.

Jim...I thought you worked at Burger King as the official french fry fryer? Oh, that was JRR...sorry, my bad.

I actually checked in to see if there was any news yet on the fate of the CP. I'm just leaving it in God's hands.


Member: Jim R.
Location: " My kinda'  Place, Chicago is...."
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 12:44:57

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Good morning all, Jim, most grateful recovering alcoholic, sober today through the grace of my Higher Power, and the program.

Did anyone take my shift, Sammy... I got to get a break sometime.... let's make sure we cover that graveyard shift... To understand me is one of the miracles of this program... a little scary, eh?

Welcome David K., Albert, and Jimmy C.... your in the right place for a reason... hope things are going well... Albert... Keep busy... don't think... go to meetings... the cloud and the obsession will lift soon... there is a power greater than yourself that can help you... may you find him/her now... keep coming back.

Funny you should mention BK, Eric... I did some consulting for them on french fry products and Hydrosenated Oils... specifically Canola blends... We went with a pre-coated xlf idaho product that retains it's final holding temperature better than a non-coated fry. Only 2.45% heat loss per minute... more expenseive per case, but portion-wise, just pennies more for a better product. These days, I prefer to not have it my way though.

Hey, oldtimer... with all due respect to your oldtimerness... We can't afford not to entertain thoughts of our past... for not shutting the door on the past gives us the key to dealing with the present. What Sherly did last night, to work herself out of a corner, is what I've done countless times before... we have the tools in AA to turn the screws of negative thought around... lefty loosey... righty tightie, bub... ever-tightening down the latches....arrrrrrrrr, me buckle....keep coming back.

Yours in the fellowship ...And Newly self-appointed Greeter.... JIm R.


Member: Sheryl
Location:
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 13:29:24

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Hey..

Friend sent me this in an email..it is fun but be warned is addictive!! Try it out!

http://www.brown.edu/Students/Japanese_Cultural_Association/java/


Member: Mouse
Location: Surrey B.C.
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 14:00:11

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Hi Mouse here, & I'm a Alcoholic....

Welcome to.... DAVID K, KATHY, & TRACY D, happy 90 for ya girl, looks good on ya..... JO, thanks for the post, and belive it or not there are some good people here, that will stay as long as they can..... ALBERT, good work, and keep it up, carry a cup with you every were, fill it with coffee, pop, juice.... eat allot of sweet things they all help... and I know you will get day 7....... BILL J, I am so glad to hear that you and your wife are doing better, love ya both.....

I'm a bit better today my self, my hubby is home from work. He drives a truck, so he's gone allot. Still waiting to hear the test results on my Brandy, and my grandson is coming to see me and stay a few days.... Isn't life great. even though I have ups and downs, I'm still here, and alive today.... My worse day sober, beats my best day drunk anytime.... Any way I hope ya all have a great day, I wish you all another 24, & one for me......

Mouse norsk@sprint.ca


Member: Corinne B.
Location: CA
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 15:04:52

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'Afternoon ((CPers))!! Corinne, Alcoholic here, there & everywhere!

Welcome and hugs to ((JohnP)) ((Jo D)) ((Kathy of NY)) ((ShannonT)) ((DavidK)) - And Happy 90 to ((TracyD)) and 7 ('cuz I know you'll make it) to ((Albert))!!

Good to see ((SamShe)) ((Kerry & David B)) ((Dale S)) ((Sundance)) ((BrianB)) ((BonnieC - our actual offical hugger)) ((Teri F)) ((EricWhatEvahH)) ((Mouse)) & (JimmyC)).

Welcome Back ((NewBeastie)) - I had a tropical themed dream last night about rounding up banana & palmetto leaves & palm fronds for centerpieces on some AA Conference tables!! Love those tropics - can't wait to be back in them - only a few more weeks to go!

((JimR)) - Why is it that whenever I see your name of late, I have this uncontrollable urge to go de-glaze some pans! LOL!! LMAO!!! One of the things I used to love to do before I got so sick a couple of years back was to try my hand at "gore-mette" cooking (hehe). (NOT with Al Gore, mind you!) I don't know all those fancy terms but love to try some of the easier things I see on those shows - whatever happened to the Cajun guy - Justin something-or-other? He was way cool!

((BillJ)) - You have been helping me so much lately with the E-s - reading your dad-like supportive messages regarding my upcoming divorce & move back East helps lift my depression & anxiety quite a bit! I love you so much - hope Isla doesn't mind I look upon you as my surrogate DAD!!

And finally, ((Sheryl)) - The longer you are staying sober, ODAAT, the more meaning-filled your messages are coming across! You are so special to me and so many of us here - please don't forget to let us know when you cross that 30th day mark - should be coming up soon, right???!!! What a miracle!!! I'm so jazzed to see you staying sober! Hey, I have a neice down near Warner Robbins, and friends still in Nashville, so once I get back to Florida, whenever my health will allow, I am hoping to make a roadtrip - maybe we could hook-up - I'd love to meet you (and ((Rhia)), too!

Probably way over my quota, but just wanted to add this: I absolutely love the "FIRbee" site Bubby set up, but StayingCyber was the first AA online I found, and it will always be my favorite, and I also consider it my online homegroup! So I sure hope the CP page does NOT go away - just keep using that scrollbar when necessary, as not everyone who posts here is following the principles of the program or the guidelines of the site!

Love & Hugs to All! Corinne B.


Member: Pat S
Location:
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 15:14:55

Comments

Hi Room, Just stopped in to catch a few posts. I see some newcomers here and I have seen some problems here. This is the first place on the web that I found and I went to my first f2f that same eve.:o) I attend about 14 meetings a week since Jan 21 and I am going to 2 more tonight. One of them is a speaker meeting. There are so many nice people here I just want you to know I am still with you every day although I am to busy right now to post. :>) Thanks to A.A. Have a good 24 and I shall return. grateful, Pat


Member: Sanders W
Location: Graceville, Fl.
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 15:23:42

Comments

Hi All Ya'all I(am very definately a real alcoholic and my nameis Sanders.Welcome to all you firsttimers here and it is so good to see so many new faces. Congradt TracyD on 90 days. That was the BIG one for me because it took me 7 1/2 years before I could take a 90 day chip and that was 23 years ago so it will work if we work for it, sometimes slowly and somtimes fast. Theonly way totruely FAIL is to stop trying. Albert, David K., Jimmy C. and Kathy just keep coming and don't drink in between meetings and you will get bewtter inspite of yourself. Sheryl and several of you spoke of thinking of a drink and I would like to share my sponsors views on that. he told me it was the most natural thing in teh world for an alkie to think drink but If I caredanything about myself to think the drink all the way through. That saved me several times in where I am today.-----Mouse I hope Brandy is doing better for you. My daughtrrer will be here on Tuesday and I am going to get her to talk with the vet about Tobie for me and see what she suggest after talking with him. She has a very good knowledge of pets and their sicknesses and she knows how I feel about Tobie.-----I usually post my Email address on here so if any of you ever have a question on anything I may have touched on you would like toask me about I would be more thsan happy to answer any questions you may have. god loves you and so do I sanders@wfeca.net


Member: tom t
Location: tenn
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 15:26:54

Comments

tom,alcoholic,etc., CORRINE,that Cajun guy,I can't remember his last name either,all I do remember was he drank wine all the time.Yes,I'm a typical alkie.DAVID B.,If your still looking for me,I've been over there at BIMINI.COM. Think I get award for first double post! Great site,looking for MOUSE to join in and JIM to figure it out.This is still home too,but you can't get to sober can you? LOVE TO ALL


Member: Danny F.
Location: Fort Worth, (Cowtown) Texas, U.S.A.
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 15:39:19

Comments

Hello, to ALL my AA Brothers & Sisters! My name is Danny, and, I'm a Drunk, who don't drink, TODAY! (Big MIRACLE!)

Just checked, and found, that I've been sober 3606 days, now! FANTASTIC! (But, who counts?} Ha-Ha!

How wonderful it is, to be sober, today! This deal, really, does work!

Welcome, to AA, and to the CoffeePot! (Sorry, Jim. I forgot, that's your job!)

"Keep comming back!"

Thanks, CoffeePot, for letting me share!

Danny F. - "Just another old Drunk & Junkie, finally, learning how to live!"

drthumbtack@yahoo.com


Member: Delores C.
Location: Las Vegas, Nv.
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 15:56:57

Comments

Hi, this is Delores, alcoholic. So good to read so many good posts. Through the Grace of my Higher Power and the help of other alcoholics I am able to sit at this puter and appreciate all of you and what we have to say to each other. I pray for the continuation and cooperation of this site. I encourage all to remember the profound words of the Serenity Prayer,

God grant me the Serenity to

Accept the things I cannot change

Courage to change the things I can

and the Wisdom to know the difference.

Love, Delores


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chgo
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 17:39:48

Comments

Hey, Connie, Hi... the name of that "cajun guy" is Justin Wilson....he's one of those oldtimers...you know, sort a like jrr... saw your giff, Chef Humble... now I know why you wear that ball cap... heh heh heh heh heh...

goin' to put some "ungyuns" in dat stew just for you, Connie!

Tennessee Tom...if I haven't figure it out yet... I'll probably never figure it out... I'm keeping busy though... official self-appointed greeter and all... take care.


Member: Shannon T.
Location: Pennsylvania
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 18:19:40

Comments

Evening, all. Second time posting here...

Glen, thank you for the sites. Unfortunately, I still haven't found the info I'm looking for. The Bill W. site has old pictures ('96 &97) and makes no mention (from what I can find) of what's happenin' for '99. I believe the dates are June 11-13, however, I am yet to find a registration form... Anyone? I really want to go to Founders' Day this year.

Sheryl, wow. Thank you. THAT is the stuff I need to hear. And you reacted the way that someone who wants to stay sober reacts... you thought the drink through. Thanks for your sharing.

Albert, I disagree with you... I think that seven days is an incredibly long time to go without a drink!!!! If it weren't, far many more drunks would be sober. I congratulate you. I remember my amazement when I had my first seven days sober; I just couldn't believe the miracle.

I'm quite enjoying the Coffee Pot. Thanks to all.


Member: Jim R.
Location: Oz
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 18:39:09

Comments

Welcome to OZ, Shannon T. ... officially, that is. I represent the lollipop kids. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Dorothy(maRy) will tell you that there's no place like home...no place like home...no place like home. Remember that this aint Kansas anymore. Keep coming back. The search continues for wisdom, heart, and courage... Just follow the yellow brick road...


Member: Geri W
Location: Va
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 19:23:27

Comments

Geri, a very grateful alcohlic here. Albert - seven sober days is a miracle. Are you going to meeting? Got a sponsor? Found a Bib Book? All those things help so much. Hang on.

Pat S - thanks for letting me know you're doing well. John P and Tracy, welcome!

Brian, your post sounds so "healthy" - you must be doing something right. Congrats!

Saunders, enjoy your daughter's visit.

Everyone have a great sober 24.


Member: JOHNNY R
Location: PITTSBURGH
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 19:35:17

Comments

PLEASE HELP ME.. I NEED A MEETING LIST FOR THE ATLANTIC CITY AREA..... E ME jrcski@excite.com thanks.............JOHNNY R


Member: Monica Q & Karen W/
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 20:01:03

Comments

Hi Everybody, MonicaQ and KarenW two alcoholics trying the webb site for the first time. Congratulations Tracy and welcome to the better way of life that recovery is. We go to an early morning meeting and have enjoyed starting the day with the twelve steps. The days roll into weeks..the weeks into months..and the support and friendship is wonderful. Thoughts of using turn into prayers and gratitude. Thanks for being here for us tonight.


Member: Dale S.
Location: CA
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 20:14:52

Comments

Hi. Would someone please post the URL for David B's message board in Bimini. I can't find it.

In my last post I tild everyone that I went to a speakers meeting and had a good time. I did't exactly tell you the truth. I went to the speakers meeting but I got so pissed at something my wife said I had to leave and go home. Sorry about the lie.


Member: steve
Location: australia
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 20:39:19

Comments

hi i'm steve (used to be chicken) and i'm an alcoholic. new to aa, called thanks to some great people here. told you i'd come back! thanks to the people who congratulated me on calling. i meant to write your names but the board refreshed before i came back. it's day 4 for me and i still fell like crap but i also feel good that i got my arse to aa. if that makes sense. the person who told me about this place doesn't even seem to be here now. jac if you're here, i did it!


Member: KATHY
Location: N.Y.
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 21:34:52

Comments

HI,MY NAME IS KATHY ,IAM AN ALCOHOLIC. THANKS FOR THE WELCOME.IAM NEW ON THE NET AND GET LOST A LOT. IT TAKES ME A LONG TIME TO FIND THIS MEETING.I COULD USE ANY SUGGESTIONS? THANKS AGAIN,


Member: GaryVM
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 21:38:46

Comments

Hi Folks, First time here. "My name is Gary and I'm an alcoholic"--since that's usaully the 1st thing I'd say at a mtng. I've been stumbling around the Net, knew that such places as this existed, good to find one. Anybody interested as I am in the diversity of opinion and experience that exists here -- as in I don't have all that much chance in my local face to face mtngs. to see what they have to say in Calif., N. Carolina, or Canada, for ex., -- but w/the Net, can find out immmediately? But I have to watch out for instant gratification, it's just another craving. And I do have them--

I'll post again in a few days, but since I've read every one else's msg., just thought I'd do the right thing and say hello. Don't drink and go to meetings, or as my friend Jeff A from Portland, OR (formerly from NY would say, "don't drink and go to the movies." A sense of humor is our saving grace, anyway.

Thanks


Member: Kerry B.   3/21/80
Location: Idaho
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 22:00:07

Comments

Kerry, an alcoholic

Glad you found your way back here Kathy. If you look towards the top of screen, you should see a button that says favorites. If you click on that when you are here, you will be able to save this site to your favorites, then when you want to come back, you just go there and "click" here you are.

Gary, thanks for the reminder: Rule 62 - don't take yourself too seriously. Laughter is wonderful, I spent way too many years "as serious as a heart attack" - almost terminally serious.

Keep Coming Back!!! It works, it really does!!


Member: Teri F
Location: Marion, ohio
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 22:03:56

Comments

Kathy,

www.stayingcyber.org When you get back here, right click and hit "create shortcut". That will put this site on your desk top so all you have to do is click on it when you want to come back!

Dale---the message board is:http://forums.delphi.com/soberfriends

Jim---are ya out of the bathroom yet????? LOL.

Welcome Monica and Karen---So glad you found us here! Hope to hear from you again soon.

((((Steve))))--Good for you!!!! Keep doin' the deal! Meetings, Big Book, Sponsor---and don't drink a day at a time. Keep coming back friend.

Time for bed. Sweet dreams and God thoughts to all.........


Member: Art P.
Location: New Bern
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 22:33:47

Comments

Here I am torn between UConn, and Duke, born in Ct. but call Carolina home. Glad I don't bet basketball anymore. I told a friend that I'd lost 32 bets on basketball in a row. He said; Why don't you bet football. What the hell do I know about football was my answer. For that matter what the hell do I know about any thing, except if I don't pick up the first drink I'll have a chance to find out.

Sorry Swiss Mrs. about the Tarheels, hope for your sake they do well in the tournament. But I think we need Deano back at the helm. (Not Jesse) Only three teams from the ACC make it to the big dance. And Duke looks formidable. I'm a Dukey...coronary unit, their doctors are good, but I think the basketball team is even better. Now is my other coronary alma mater ECU comes up with a good team, I'll really have a problem. LOL

On a happier note. I called Mannington Floors about a floor I had installed 8 years ago, It still shines like the day it was installed but has pulled away from the walls and cabinets in places. They told me to send pictures, I did, and they sent me authorization for a new vinil floor. Restores my faith in corp. America. And all I did was take action to make the call. Who would have thunk it?

Steve you sound great, keep on going to the meetings, and staying in touch with another alcoholic. I made 3 meetings today, and rode up to the second one with my sponcee, and I had a good day. Your hanging in one day at a time will give you a lot of peaceful yesterdays. Good luck one day at a time.

Don't drink and go to meetings!

God bless all us sick puppy/ette's


Member: Eric H.
Location: Harbor Island group, Larchmont NY
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 22:49:20

Comments

Eric Alkie.

God, thank you,it is so much clearer today.

GaryVm...I'm down here in Larchmont, grew up in Peekskill. Where are you at? Very cool to see another Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

Pat... been thinking of you for a few days, you really are doing good! Thank you for showing us it works!

Founders Day....June 11, 12, 13


Member: Deanna E.
Location: Texas
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 23:19:10

Comments

Hi folx! Deanna E. here and I am an alcoholic. Went camping this weekend. It was kewl I actually remember it all! First time camping sober. 28 days sober today! Had such a good time I can't explain it all. Anyway wanted to pop in and say I'm back.

God grant us all another 24!

Deanna


Member: Doris H
Location: Oregon, U S A
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 23:28:08

Comments

Good Evening, My name is Doris and I am an alcoholic. Steve (aussie) I want to welcome you to the land of sobriety. I know it is hard and i hear booze is a big deal sown there. I am praying for you. Delores, on here, is my sister and she got sober in Las Vegas so that always gave me a little hope. I think it would be damn hard to get sober in Las Vegas. Keep your chin up buddy and try to trust in God. It worked for me. Sanders my man, how are you. I am having a lot of trouble with my e-mail and I am not writing letters for a bit. I hope I can get it fixed. Love to you all, Doris


Member: Lynn  H
Location: Massachusetts
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 00:36:42

Comments

My second visit to the Coffee Pot...I didn't meet the "greeter" the last time. Kathy, like you I had trouble finding my way back, but have now added this to my list of favorites. I need to tell you all that the lighthearted teasing reminds me of my home group and allows me to feel immediately comfortable. Must be AA, I feel at home.


Member: Lynn P
Location: Flordia
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 01:04:12

Comments

Hi my name is Lynn I need to know something. I have not had a drink since July 7th 1999, however I ment this guy and he gave me some smoke now smoke is not my drug of choice but I've been told that anytime that I escape from the now I lose my serbity(sp?). I disagree becouse I can life with or without dope at one time I could not live without a drink. I don't use everyday I do use at least two or three times a week. Do I need to stop this and change my date?? thanks for the input.


Member: TRACY D.
Location: Bowling Green Mo.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 01:37:04

Comments

Hi gang at CP I've had an exceptional day!!I went to a meeting in Hannibal this evening(well actually two)and recieved my 90 day coin.I'M as proud as a new father!(Oh by the way Mouse I'm a 35 year old man,but how could tell.)I'd like to thank everyone for the congrats and the support,it means a lot to me. JIM R.:Is snowing? its supposed to here I hope not I need to work!Monica& karen thanks for carin HA! HA!(I can't help it I'm sick!)LYNN It's my second time too,so greetings to you!(DID MENTION THAT I WAS SICK?)Geri,Sanders and Corinne(need I say it again? I guess not!)I'm in such good mood!Thanks for putting up with me.I need and love you all.PEACE


Member: TRACY D.
Location: Boring Green Mo.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 01:59:39

Comments

It's me again( kinda like a reoccuring nightmare)I just realized that I didn't say hey to Kerry, Teri and Kim,It won't happen again(I'm sorry I just couldn't resist!) At the risk of sounding like rookie(Aw what the hell I am a rookie!)would what this unwritten 13th step is,I'm being left out of the joke and it's giving me a complex!!!


Member: Jim R.
Location: The right place
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 02:02:10

Comments

Welcome, Johnny R.... saw your post... you could call 1-609-641-8855 in Pleasantville, that is a local AA hotline that handles the Atlantic City Area... they have directories on all the local AA local meetings, times etc... and will call an AA member for you if you need to talk about your problems...

This site is great, but I suggest trying to make personal contact in your area for a face to face meeting with people who will share with you a suggested program of recovery. God Bless and good luck.

Lynn H.... Welcome!...consider yourself officially greeted. I must of missed you when I went to the bathroom last night... Sammy! Where were you?... sleepin' on the job? Your going to get me fired(by me)... I don't want to go back to Walmart.

Welcome, Kathy... mark this page on your "favorites" if AOL. or bookmark on your browser.

Welcome Monica Q. & Karen W.... Is your Grosse Point the same as the Movie "Gross Point Blank"? Good movie.

Gary Vm.... welcomen... the only sense I got is humor... rule 62... a beautiful rule to live by.... "The fear of financial security will leave you... I'm so broke I can't even afford to pay attention.... badabump!"

Dear Lynn P., Welcome... Let me spare some years of confusion... My drug of choice was anything I can get my hands on, alcohol first... then pot, then alcohol and pot, then coke, then alcohol and coke, then sedatives then aclcohol and sedatives... stop the insanity and surrender... if you're a compulsive personality like me... your SOL if you justify what your drug of choice will be tomorrow... You will figure it out.... or not good luck... keep coming back... it works if you work it sober... no fogs allowed.

Steve... how did the chicken cross the road?

Yours in the fellowship

Jim Roth grateful recovering alkie/greeter/chef/actor/father/husband/genuinely disturbed but harmless individual

P.S okay, next greeter take over... I've got to get some sleep.... Sammy, you out there.


Member: Brenda
Location: Florida
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 02:21:41

Comments

Hi everyone. My name is Brenda and am most definitely an alcoholic! This is my first time here also (on internet as well) and I would like to welcome all the newcomers and THANK YOU ALL for being here.

I was wondering if there is anyone else out there who has been dually diagnosed. I am also manic-depressive and have not been able to stay sober since the last episode and subsequent diagnosis of September of this past year. I had eight and a half years of sobriety before all this started. It has been a nightmare. All that I had built up in sobriety is gone. I won't go into all the gory detail as there is not enough room! I would really appreciate hearing from somebody as to how they cope with this. This is not something I can bring into an AA meeting as it is not alcohol-related. Also, there is a bit of a stigma about the dually diagnosed and it's very difficult to communicate this with someone who hasn't been there, as you all know. I once felt the same way myself until it happened to me. Any feedback would be most appreciated - THANKS.


Member: Lynn P
Location: Floridia
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 02:31:50

Comments

Hi agian I'm at work and I understand what was said to me about my drug of choice today or tommorow. I want to come back its hard when you work the grave yard shift, I have not been to my home group in so very long and my sponsor died a little over a month ago so I've been a looser sponsering myself becouse I choose to use pot and tried to justify that it wasn't a drink and now you are advising me to rethink my thinking on this issue, I've worked very hard this last year and have come a long way and I don't want to loose what I have I really like this guy and he siad he will not change he likes to smoke pot to relax and he said and I know he doesn't drink (I live with him) I need help and the only person I know right now that can and will help me is Ben B and he tells it like it is he keeps calling me a looser and that if I don't change it's going to kill me or put me back in prison. I need a female in my life that works the same as I do and will help me get my act together. I love this guy and no he is not worth 15 years in prison if I get violated by doing pot with him PLEASE HELP ME. I'll be back around 5 to check it out.


Member: Robert B.
Location: Boise  Idaho
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 02:51:28

Comments

My Name is Robert and I am an alcoholic.

My experience was that I lost contact with God when I smoked dope, and that contact had the greatest priority for me. I stopped.

Welcome to the new comers.

I tried to post yesterday about grieving but either my server or my higher power decided I should not. My heart goes out to Kim, to Mouse, to Sanders who are dealing with loss. The ability to grieve has been a gift of sobriety for me, a painful gift, but a gift nonetheless.

Peace


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 02:52:54

Comments

Hi Susan

I would like to talk about this with you. Maybe you would like to email me and we can talk. The coffee Pot is not a chat room and they dont like multiple posting here. And I have already posted once today. I can also tell you about some chat rooms whwe people get together to talk about such things. I've been sober for 5 years but it gets tough sometime when you dualy diganoce. (I know i'm a bad speller and to lazy to check it) My e-mail is dales71@hotmail.com


Member: the guy
Location: that heathen country north of an england still trying to come to terms with the fact that they HAD an empire
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 03:31:00

Comments

Drugs! Drugs! Never had a problem with drugs, can't comment, won't comment, had a problem with alcohol though and l have now recovered ?!? One day at a time, by the grace of God and the 12 Steps. Lynn.P.: You must protect your sobriety at all times, if this drugs issue is threatening your sobriety, then you must do something about it, however difficult it may be. To the Newcomer: To be on THIS programme you have to have done the first 9 Steps and practicing Steps 10&11 on a dayly basis, that way you build up a defence against that first drink, thus you recover. You will also hear(often)of people who have gone back out drinking this is not a pre-requisite (phew) of recovery. The best way to avoid this is to stick with the winners, you'll find them in the B/Book, find the person described on p.p.18, "THAT COULD BE THE HARDEST PART", he /she will launch you on a vigorous course of action, thus you will recover one day at a time, that's a promise. Good luck with your decision Lynn.


Member: Tammy M
Location: Anch, AK
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 03:37:14

Comments

Hi Tammy:alcoholic.Was wondering what f2f means? I had a dream last night. I dreamed I was sitting at a table in a bowling alley drinking an apricot brandy and not thinking a thing about it until I was half way through with it. I looked down at the glass and thought "I shouldn't be drinking this" and I felt repulsion at the drink. I returned the glass and the thought "Think before you drink" came across loud and clear. I told my significant other about the dream. He pulled out his chip and showed me the words on it (I carry 3 chips aroundin my pocket-1 for each month I have been sober)There it was on the chip! Geez, how quickly I forget what's written on the chips that mean so much to me!That dream has been stuck in my head all day. Yes, I do think before I drink. That's why I don't chose to drink. I don't want to go there anymore! Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Karen B.
Location: Tucson, AZ
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 04:02:29

Comments

gee I was gone a couple of days, and I guess the status of the CP is still a pending issue. JIM R. - glad to see you greeting! DALE S. - great honesty - thanks. But I wonder, what did your wife say that pissed you off? (just kidding). I'm totally in the dark about David's Delphi page - is that a fraternity or what? Is everyone going there, wherever that exists? And can I come and play or is it an exclusive club? How do I get there? I know nobody's interested but I work long hours - this is a "right-to work" state (translate that as "right to work for less money")- no unions, so the hours are long with no lunch, dinner, or coffee breaks. Yeah, I'm whining I guess. To change the subject - is the picture page still up or is that pending too? I really liked it, JIM R. and JRR were there (last I looked) and they're both cute. JACQUELINE makes Nicole Kidman look plain in comparison and her baby is adorable. Will someone answer some of my questions, if you know what's up?


Member: Brian B.
Location: Rotherham, UK.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 05:45:40

Comments

Touche, John Mc, you have a sense of humour after all. Also, I`m with you on your advice to Lynn P.- My dear, this is obviously screwing you up. My programme involves me looking at ANYTHING in my life that is causing me concern and applying action to deal with it. If it is causing you disquiet (or dis-ease), then logic dictates you stop using. Quite frankly, if your partner can`t appreciate the signifacance of what his actions are doing to you, seriously question what is the foundation for the relationship. Having divorced because my ex-partner wouldn`t stop drinking is something that I am not proud of, but an actual occurrance. In the UK, we hear more and more of cross-addiction. The sheer weight of evidence that alcoholics cannot handle any mind-changing substances because the reaction is the same, is overwhelming. Don`t forget, Alcoholism comes in People, not in Bottles, it`s the individuals reaction to catalysts like ethyl alcohol where the problem lies. The paradox is that some people within society might just be able to handle these things, as I understand it, Alcoholics, (particularly this Alcoholic!) can`t. I had to go through my own version of Hell to find that out, I don`t want to go back there, and if I have to do the programme of AA in full to maintain that reality, so be it.

I know that in academic circles the theoretic approach of the Addictive Personality has gone out of favour; however, I find that the approach gives an explanation for so many actions and reactions of behavour. Its application to cross-addiction is particularly relevant. If I apply it to myself, I can explain my phases of compulsive behaviour to Sea-Fishing, (the current hobby), the Internet,my culinary expertise, (wit`you, bro jim!) anything that comes along. This may be Not what you want to hear, Lynn- so you can kick it into touch if you wish and tell me to MYOB, I can take it. "Luv from a Luvvy" (OK Jim, I`m also an Actor- what the hell anonymity!)


Member: Lynn P
Location: Floridia, bradenton
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 06:31:44

Comments

Thanks for all the input yes I have a lot of tough choices to make, I want to be a winner and to be a winner I need people like you all. Yes Brain B. you told me stuff I didn't want to hear and I'm glad that I am open minded and willing to do what it takes. Tammy thanks to I'm glad you talked to me strieght,and the guy you're right and I will go back even if it means starting over and all that...one day at a time, keep it simple don't drink and go to meetings thats what my uncle Ben says and he has 13 years we have a love/hate friendship since I came into the fellowship however I want what you all have a live without alcohol and drugs even if it means losing the guy I like. thanks I'll talk to you all tonight its time for me to go home, don't you just love people who write from work?? Lynn an alcholic and drug addit


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 06:58:16

Comments

Good morning all.

Brian B.--most excellent post. I can definitely relate. Haven't gotten into the sea fishing thing, but that's only because the closest ocean is about 12 hrs. away!! I have found that my addictive personality can go about a thousand different directions. At least I'm aware of that today. I used to drive myself crazy thinking I had to get it all under control immediately. Today I know as long as I don't take a drink or use any drugs, I can work on one thing at a time, one day at a time.

Lynn---Hang in there. We alcoholics can rationalize anything. If you stay sober, go to meetings, and work the steps with a sponsor, you'll have the tools to figure the rest of the stuff out. Don't beat yourself up over what has happened. Today is he only one that counts. If you don't drink or drug TODAY, you ARE a winner! Keep coming back kiddo.

Hope you all have a wonderful day!!

Love and hugs to all..............


Member: tom t
Location: tenn
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 08:17:33

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tom,alcoholic,etc., LYNN P.,my sponsor told me if you want to be a winner,hang with winners. Sounds like you figured that out,so unless you want to do that 15,get rid of friend,drugs,and hang around people you respect with some time in AA. Lots of newcomers here,will let JIM R.,officialy greet you,but welcome! KAREN B.,scroll up to TERI's post of 3/7 and you will find David's new site. If they let me in,anyone must be welcome.LOL. ART P.,DUKE is awesome,Tenn.is in the same bracket,but in round ball,not near in the same class.Almost hope they lose a close one before they have to play Duke. Don't know if I could watch it.DALE,you O.K.? Hope today is a better one for you,sounds like you need a quiet sit down with other half? Best! LOVE TO ALL


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 08:48:24

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Hey Tom T.

I'm doing ok now. Wife and I have talked. Sorry to worry people. Sometimes I get on pretty shakey ground. My fault! I still don't what I know I should do. I don't want to go into details here on the Coffee Pot but if you would like to know my e-mail is dales71@hotmail.com. Thanks tom


Member: Larry M.
Location: Virginia Beach
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 10:25:43

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LYNN P: My experience with pot was that it had nothing to do with my drinking. I am addicted to alcohol (technically, ethanol C2 H5 OH), not marijuana (tetrahydrocannabinol). Smoking pot did not lead to drinking for me. When I did stop smoking pot, I had no cravings for it and haven't smoked it again for many years. As you can see from the posts above, others have had different experiences. I have no reason to doubt that many people do start drinking as a direct result of smoking pot and others (a small number from what I've observed) actually become addicted to marijuana. There is a significant minority of AA's who smoke pot. They often have many years of sobriety and help a lot of people. But they usually keep their pot smoking a secret from all but their closest friends because of the condemnation they receive from their "fellows" in AA.

The reason I stopped smoking pot was that it interfered with my program. My experience was similar to Robert B's. I was operating pretty much on Step 1 alone. I had been dry for a long time, but my character defects were still fully in place. I was overwhelmed with violent emotions. I had very little serenity and peace-of-mind. Since then, I have been working a pretty good program and the Promises have begun to come true in my life.

Having said all that, I think you need to examine your situation without the burden of everyone else's morals and beliefs. The most immediate problem I can see is that you seem to be in danger of violating your parole, which as I read your post, could subject you to finishing out a lengthy prison term. That begs the question of why you would endanger yourself in such a manner, and for what? To get high a couple of times a week? For some guy you seem to have known for less than a year, a guy who would endanger you this way so he can "relax"? I noted that even though you live with him, the strongest feeling you expressed for him was that you "really like" him.

Sorry for coming on a bit strong, but I think you're asking for big trouble. From what I can see, your relationship is the source of your troubles - the pot smoking seems to be more of a symptom, baggage that came with the relationship. Suggest you get a sponsor and work the steps even harder and/or check out Al-Anon or Codependents Anonymous (CODA). I'd throw my own mother out of the house into the cold, dark night before I'd let her put me in danger of going to prison.

I'm glad to see that you're starting to ask the right questions and setting your priorities straight. Good luck. Please pardon me if I misinterpreted you or went overboard in taking your inventory (or anyone else's for that matter). Keep coming back!


Member: Eric H.
Location: NY...not for very much longer tho
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 10:29:51

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Eric Alkie.

Thank you God.

Tom, Art....Elton Brand comes out of Peekskill, my home town. I know his parents, very good kid, I remember when he was a little guy! Geez, scary to me. I'm only 34!

Jim...re the hydrogenated cooking oil...whatevah! Can't guy make a joke without you needing to make sense of it. C'est la vie, mon ami.

Lynn...I can speak on smoking weed, cuz that was my favorite for a long time. I quit drinking in 88, but I didn't get sober until Easter of '90. I kept smoking pot until that time. In my mind, i knew it wasn't being sober, I guess i just wasn't ready to let go absolutely. AA is about alcoholism, and AA has no opinions on outside issues, but this alkie and addict certainly has experience. My Dad, God bless his soul, called it the 'fog'. 'You can't think straight when you're in that fog'. For me, it is just another way to avoid reality, something to anesthetize my feelings. My experience, for what it's worth, is that I wasn't sober unless I abstained from all drugs. Take care Lynn, it is only about this day, this 24 hours. Sounds like you are being honest, open-minded, and are now willing. I'm praying for you.

Tammy...Good to hear from you. About dreams like that, if it bothers you, as it did me at one time, an old friend told me the following. If you dream about winning the lottery, and you wake up with a sh*tload of cash, then you should start worrying about drunk dreams. I'm glad you saw the gift of the message in your dream. Keep up the great work.

No news is no news.

Having a great day, cuz I am not going to drink. All day, and all night.


Member: Kim D
Location: Florida
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 10:38:32

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Goodmorning to all at the CP, Kim D Alcoholic/ADDICT here.

Glad to see that no one has unplugged the CP. Things really are getting better around here.

((Lynn)) I don't know about anybody else, but ((Brian B's))descriptions of addictive personality fits me to a tee. Drinking was my first and most constant source for pain, but there were many guest appearance by several other substances (pills, coke, men....etc)along the way to hell. It's just a fact of MY life that I have to apply the principles of AA (12 steps) to ALL the mind/mood altering substances available and in all areas of my life. I have been substance free for 3 1/2 years now, ODAAT. I still can't manage my life, my way, but Boy,,, my life is WAY BETTER without the chemicals. Good luck! Sounds like you know the truth.

Speaking of compulsive behaviro, my current obsession in gardening!?! I choose this hobby because I heard it was relaxing....HAHAHAHA....Not the way I do it.... I have read every gardening book published in the last 5 years, bought all the (right) tools, made several different lists/journals of plants and seeds to be put into the ground in just the right place, at just the right time. It's crazy!!!, no,...I'm crazy, but hopefully I'll get a few tomatos out of it. Which, btw, I don't even like tomatos, they are for my husband and kids! Is that Co-dependent???

Well, that's enough out of me and besides I've got to go turn on the sprinklers.

Thanks for letting me share. Hope everyone as a good/sober day.

Kim


Member: tony b
Location: s.s. maryland
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 11:11:48

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hi this is tony and i am an alcoholic. i have been sober for 50 days!! wow i never thought i could do it. i am very grateful for AA and all the new friends i am making. i am also very thankful for my HP who is always looking out for me. my new life is great and i just wanted to share that- thanks.

hope everybody has a great and sober day. bye!


Member: Deanna E.
Location: Texas
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 11:17:16

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Morning! Deanna here and I am an alcoholic.

As I was relaxing this weekend at the campsite, I got to the chapter in the BB "To Wives". Now, I am the alcoholic and the wife. So, I thought maybe there will be something helpful in here for my hubby.

My second hubby was an alcoholic. He died almost 6 years ago in a very tragic car accident. I was with him for 6 years. As I was reading this chapter so many of the questions that I had AFTER he died were literally answered. My alcoholism started the day he died. I guess I thought I had to take his place, I really don't know. But, I do know that just reading this one chapter opened my eyes and helped me deal with alot of "what ifs" for me. What if I had done this or that he would be alive now.

There's a page in the BB (can't remember the #) that said sometimes others have to die for someone to live. My God! How pwerful! I was so damn angry at God for him dying and God never telling me why. I am not saying that is why, but it sure makes it a hell of a lot easier to cope with.

So on that note, 29 days sober today! Get my one month chip tomorrow night! THAT makes me proud!

God grant us another 24.

Deanna


Member: Sam S
Location: Kansas (OZ)
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 11:27:02

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Good Morning all. Been busy here lately. Also trying to figure out what's wrong with my computer. Keeps saying that an "illegal operation has occurred". I'm ready to handcuff the damn thing and put it behind bars!!!!!Jim R.......I'm still here. Just trying to sneak in here between my customers and my work. Not an easy task. Gotta go for now. I'm truly grateful for AA and all of it's people.


Member: Connie
Location:
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 11:37:05

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Hi Everyone,

My problem is Connie and I am an alcoholic;

All those whom have shared their experience, strength and hopes on the coffeepot, thank you, All those whom ego's have gotten in there way, I will pray for you. I been praying for myself too. That ego, can get in my way too.

David, I like that new site you and your HP created, it has a lot of neat stuff to it. Signing on was tough, after the 4th time, I got on. and I had to do it again, cause I forgot my pass word, duh, need to remember that, lol

Hey, I love you all, and keep coming back and sharing, cause, even when I am out of it, I can still get something out of it.


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chgo
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 11:46:50

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Welcome Tony B., Brenda, and Tammy and Robert B, to the two new Lynns, also. Keep coming back... new blood is like a transfusion to everyone in this program...

Eric... about trying to make sense... it was funny you mentioned BK... auto-Ego took over... have since adjusted the expansion...POP!

Some great sobriety filling the pages today... makes me proud I'm part of a group that would have me as a member...

Karen, Isn't it ironic... me and pally on the same row on picture page... I agree... the tough little nutbag is kinda cute. Is it wrong to think that way, jrr? Don't get any ideas, pally... Sundance is mine.

Brenda, about Dually Diagnosed... I haven't a clue... all I know is that Bill W. suffered from depression for many years after he was sober... check out some literature about how he dealt with it. God Bless!

Yours in the fellowship

Jim R.


Member: Sanders W.
Location: Graceville, F.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 12:12:40

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hi Al Ya'all I am very definately a real alcoholic and my name is Sanders. Good to see and feel the "love" once again on the opt. Nice to see the twins back among the living again. Doris and Delores you should not stay away so long because we need you here.------Lynn you have received some very good direction concerning yourquestions and one other thought on it may be something I have learned for me. When I have to question whether something is correct or not then it probably needs some looking into. I am confident you will make the right choice for your own good and good luck and God bless you in your endevor. I knoiw for me that anything is better than drink. I can't really comment aboutPot because I never tried it but from what I know of me I could not use it and consider myself sober. Very grateful that is one I missed in my path to AA and finally sobriety. I love this program and everyone in it. The only way to really lose is to not try it. God loves you anjd so do I sanders@wfeca.net


Member: Tammy M
Location: Anch,AK
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 12:14:03

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Tammy : alcoholic Hey Sam, my computer does the same thing, says that I have Performed An Illegal Operation. Shoot, I don't even know how to operate! It seems my computer does this if I don't fully load 1 page before advancing to the next page or site.


Member: Suzanne H
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 12:20:22

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Hi, my name's Suzanne and I'm an alcoholic.

Welcome to the newcomers! I hope you enjoy visiting "Staying Cyber" as much as I have and I've been here for about 15 months...lots of Experience, Strength and Hope shared here!!

Kim D, did you have to mention gardening? LOL Last week I started those "gardening thoughts" only to be followed by a storm on the weekend which brought about a foot of snow, putting plans on hold. Was it Art or Tom pruning bushes? Anyway..Kim, I love tomatoes, hate dill pickles...but still make 48 jars annually(72 one year) because hubby and the kids love them.

Steve (Australia), happy to see you decided to pluck your feathers and join us, keep coming back.

Teri F, I'll catch up with you sooner or later LOL

Sheryl, you're looking good, friend!

I want to say hi to a few people I haven't seen in a while, in case you're reading..HI to Steve D., Santiago, and Camo, drop in and say hello, OK?

My thoughts and prayers are with each and everyone of you, too many to mention, I have met so many during my time visiting here.

Love Suzanne H (Kmartsh0pr@aol.com)

--That's a zero in-- Kmartsh0pr


Member: Mouse
Location: Surrey B.C.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 12:23:37

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Hi Mouse here, & I'm a Alcoholic...

HAPPY 7 days ALBERT, welcome to MONICA, & KAREN W, SANDERS love ya and brandy seems to be doing better this morn, I turned it over to the Creator, do diside what to do...... TOM T, I'm a comin' Just trying to figure out the site, Love ya....

Last night I went to my home group, We had two cakes. One 3 year, and a 1 year.... Now I asked my self once early in the program... Is there such a thing as a AA miracle, the answer is Yes there is Mouse..... The lady who took her 3 years is a AA miracle, she came from the skids, and has had one hell of a life, I seen her come in the rooms, and I thought [ what a wing nut ] The 1st time I seen here she sat in a chair with her Leg streight up in the air and just looking around... Boy did she have a bad mouth, But today she is a real lady..... My other friend who took 1 year is also a miracle, This man came into my home because he was comming down from booze and Haroin. I watched him shake, and get sick, and siver... Him and I had a falling out, but after the death of my friend and his Lil' John in Oct, of last year, just before I came here.. We made our amends to each other, Well this man found out he is dying, of cancer... He has a brain tummor, and Now the Cancer, has spred to his Liver, lungs, and intestine.... The doctors give him 16 months tops.... I have never in my life seen a standing ovation in a AA meeting, but last night after he shared, we all stood up.... He is sober today by the grace of his HP, and these rooms... He is not going to do kemo, because he is too far gone, But he said he will remain clean and sober, and said that he is going to have One hell of a summer, If it wasn't for the fact that him and I made our amends, I would not be a part of his life.... We only live once and He is a miracle to me, He talked about using again, but he's answer was that her wanted to remember his last days on this earth, and I can' t blame him.... this was the first meeting I was able to cry for someone else, I have cried for me... but never another person like him.... The Creator walks with him as he dose with us all... and For him and I there will be no unfinished buisness, just friendship and love...

I know we are all AA miracles, we just need to look into our hearts to find it, but everyonce and a while we find the ones that we can learn from, From all the losses in my life the one thing I learned is to make my amends as so as I can because you never know when your going to see that person next, I this program, I know that this can kill me but, there is always something else that can hurt just as much, and thats not being able to say good by, and I'm sorry.... to someone who needs to here is, and that I MUST, say I'm sorry to myself also... becuse with out me, I would have nothing.... Thanks for listening, Love ya all, I wish you all another 24, & one for me...

I thought I'd post early, but thats because I got kicked out of bed by a 2 foot little guy, My grandson is here for 2 days, and he's a grandpas boy so guess who gets the boot, Ha

Mouse norsk@sprint.ca


Member: Brian B.
Location: Rotherham, S.Yorks, UK
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 12:24:57

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sorry for the double-post, but I couldn`t resist it! Kim, you ever been to UK, `cause I aint been to Florida, but, Jeez, are we related, or not!! Luv ya! Brian.


Member: Sam S
Location: Kansas
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 12:52:41

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UPDATE.....For all of you who are aware of the situation with my mother hating me for helping her commit herself to treatment. She hasn't spoken to me since and she is one who loves to keep score and never let anyone forget anything in life. Anyway, she called me this morning out of the blue. Nothing was ever said about the trouble we've had, but this is the first time she has ever taken the first step on anything. Thanking my HP alot today. Short conversation, but it's a start. You people and the serenity prayer have come in real handy lately. Thanks!!!!Oh yeah, welcome to all the people here, new and regulars.


Member: Susan C.
Location: Falls Church, VA
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 13:13:05

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Hi Susan C. here from Virginia and I'm an alcoholic. I'd like to welcome Kathy, Jo, David K., Lynn H., Gary from NY, and Kathy from NY. {{{hugs}}}}to all of you and anyone I missed. Congratulations to Steve with 5 days? Tracy with a little over 90 days. Tony with 50+days!

Dale...sorry to hear you got triggered at the meeting. That happened last week with me and my Ma, and yesterday she called and were able to talk about being so close to one another it makes things more difficult especially if one of us is having a hard time. She's not in program, but she described these shortcomings as weeds that need to be gotten rid of. I thought that was pretty good. I was just glad we could work things out. She means alot to me. I have to drop the word "blame" from my thinking and vocabulary. Lynn P....I'm with Sanders. If it bothers you you have to drop it if you want any peace of mind. I was not a big dope smoker, but I liked opium. Oh boy! We'd smoke it. That's been 20 years ago now. That's it from me for today. Have to work on my taxes. Finally got the willingness!

Susan


Member: Craig S
Location: New Carissa, Beach Tour 1999. Coming soon to a beach near you!
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 13:46:42

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Hi all, I'm Craig, and an alcoholic.

Nice to see the CP running smoothly. Still sober today. STEVE from Australia, welcome. You mentioned the person who sent you wasn't here. Reminds me of a lady in treatment. Her friend was coming for treatment, and needed someone to drive her the 500 miles or so. They were both in such bad shape when they got to the center, that they let the driver in too. 2 days later, the lady who came for treatment left, leaving her friend, who was only around to drive, in treatment alone and broke. Guess what? She is sober today. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Danny F.
Location: Fort Worth, (Cowtown) Texas, U.S.A.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 14:53:40

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Hello, out there in CoffePot-land! How Y'all are? Anyhow? Danny, here! (Just another old Drunk & Junkie, finally, learning how to live!)

To the person, asking about "smoke", I never drank alcohol, for the taste. I drank it, for the HIGH! If I'm using something else, to produce the HIGH, it's the same thing! Enough said!

Where in the world did Jacquelien Mc go? Haven't seen her here, or anywhere else, for some tim. I sure miss, hearing about that "Little Miss", Riona! Ain't she pretty?

Jim R. - Please forgive me, but, sometimes, I have to do a bit of "greeting", as well! "HELLO & WELCOME!", to ALL, new in AA, and new to the CoffeePot! KEEP COMMING BACK! This deal really does work! Don't give up, Five minutes before the MIRACLE! If it requires a MIRACLE, for your life to work, then, you're in the right place! This is where the MIRACLES happen! Each of us, here, are MIRACLES! The proof is, the ability, to live clean & sober, One day at a time, living life, on life's terms! Stick with the winners, the ones who are winning the battle, with their insanity, One step at a time! Hang in there. You'll make it, too!

Danny F. - "A Drunk, who don't drink, TODAY!" (Big MIRACLE!)

drthumbtack@yahoo.com


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 15:51:33

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-----Hi Crag ----- -----Susan C. .. I'm doing much better now. ------- -------Sam S… Good story about your mom.----- ------Jim R…. Your post cracked me up.. Sound like quite a love triangle. Bill Wilson suffered terribly from depression. Caused mainly by a lesion at the base of his spine (See "Pass it On" pg. ??? Glen will know) after that he found several other medical reasons for his depression. He did some serious research into vitamins and excursive. In my opinion judging by Bill's behavior he possibly was a manic/depressive himself and was never diagnosed. Thanks Jim. ----Deanna Congratulations on day 29---- -----tony b Congratulations on day 50---- ------And now about drugs. No mind altering drug! Yeah but how about coffee and nicotine? Seems to be some discrepancy here LOL. I hear about druggies who think it's ok to drink drinkers that think its ok to drug. To me these people are like scouts. The go out to see it the cost is clear and when they come back with too many arrows in their butt we decide not to go that way. There are plenty of willing scouts to try out new paths. I know pot smokers that have gone years with out drinking. I am dead against the idea of telling a person who is addicted to drugs that it is ok to drink. What about pot? I didn't know how to stay sober. I was a common face down in the gutter drunk at best. I decided to pick someone that was able to stay sober and follow his suggestions. If he said don't eat Oreo Cookies then I didn't eat Oreo Cookies. If I saw this man fall down with a butt full of arrows I would choose someone else. And I would try to choose wiser. A bigger concern to me are the folks who think it is ok to drink near beer. The good Dr said " These allergic types can never safely use alcohol in any form at all" just how many types of alcohol does that leave out. Drinking one near beer is just like drinking one ounce of real beer. How many of us, who are deathly afraid of what alcohol can do, are willing to take one good pull off a Bud (Budweiser that is). LYNN P please go out and smoke that dope but please come back and show us the arrows in your butt when you find out it don't work. Oh by the way I had a whole year dry and smoking pot and then went back out for fifteen years of living hell with alcohol.-----------Hi Connie my good friend-----I just cant stay under 300 word today. Too much coffee. I'll take my lashing now sir.


Member: Jim R.
Location: northern slope
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 15:57:47

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Danny... it's quite alright... don't want one of those lil' doggies slippin' by now... I'll watch the northern slope...Danny, you take the south ridge. Jrr, you get the east fence... Dale, you ride the western foothills...

rollin' rollin' rollin'... keep those doggies... rollin' rollin' rollin'... rawhide...get 'em up!... get 'em out'... rawhide.


Member: Steve F.
Location: Altoona PA
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 16:06:29

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Hello my name is Steve and im an alcoholic. Im moving to a new area and I dont know anybody or know where any meetings are, I was tring to find a meeting list for altoona PA but I cant find one. I feel once I get to a meeting around here I can meet my new friends. Can anyone help? Thank You


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 16:09:16

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Jim R will you plwase stop it. I'm supose to be working here. What do you think it looks like with me busting out laughing at my computer screen. A little compasion please. Love ya man, Dale S. I will not be posting again to day even if some poor drunks life is at steak. LOL


Member: Deanna E.
Location: Texas
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 16:13:10

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Deanna E. again, sorry for the double dip. Received this story this morning thought it could be useful.

This came from Chicken Soup for the Soul:

Heaven and Hell - The Real Difference

A man spoke with God about Heaven and Hell. God said to the man, "Come, I will show you hell." They entered a room where a group of people sat around a huge pot of stew. Everyone was famished, desperate and starving. Each held a spoon that reached the pot, but each spoon had a handle so much longer than their own arm that it could not be used to get the stew into their own mouths. The suffering was so terrible.

"Come, now I will show you heaven, " God said after a while. They entered another room, identical to the first - the pot of stew, the group of people, the same long-handled spoons. But there everyone was happy and well-nourished.

"I don't understand," said the man. "Why are they happy here when they were miserable in the other room and everything was the same?"

God smiled, "Ah, it is simple, " he said, "Here they have learned to feed each other."

This story bears so much to me by showing me that the alcohol kept me from reaching out for help. When my moment of clarity arrived I was able to eat by learning to share and to listen to other alcoholics. Thank you all for being here to listen to me.

Deanna


Member: still lurking
Location:
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:17:52

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YOU Two faced jerks, chase away the people who quoted the good book and the steps, then have the faves rave as long and as much as they want.You people who go online at work, are not being honest you are stealing.


Member: Art P.
Location: New Bern
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:19:03

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Subject: Fw: how true Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:15:36 -0500 From: "gene almond" <genea@coastalnet.com> To: "Art Panichella" <artpan@cconnect.net>, "Jeanne C Panichella" <JCPANIC1@prodigy.net>, "Suzanne Crawford" <celtic@clis.com>

Finished my quilting class today, but still have to hand stitch the binding. Kinda proud of myself, because I don't usually finish a project. But I plan to have this shipped to Mt. well in time for my daughters birthday. "By the inch it's a cinch."

Related to Mouses story about the man who has cancer. A friend of mine who came into the progam about nine years ago is undergoing a second series of cemo. Talk about miracles, when he first arrived he was filled with anger. (Fear) We thought if he ever smiled his face would crack. And today inspite of the pain and suffering he endures, he alway has smile ready even if it's him were picking on. The first retreatment, he took two weeks ago ended up with him in the hospital for 5 days. He's due for his second treatment tomorrow, and they decided to keep him in the place all day to monitor him. So if ya'll would, please say a prayer for 'Tugboat' that he will do well tomorrow. Thanks. And I will keep all of you in my prayers.

This has a ring to truth to it....at least as far as I'm concerned.

Ad seen in the The New York Times last week...

FOR SALE BY OWNER

Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes. Excellent condition. $1,000.00 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married last weekend. Husband knows everything.

God bless all us sick puppy/ette's


Member: Tim G.
Location: SC Tech
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:19:32

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testing 1 2 3 testing


Member: david b         9/8/81
Location: Bimini
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:22:54

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Hey now aint this somethin!! I love to see the CP moving along as peacefully as it has been today.

Doris and Delores, you two get better lookin' every time I read you, I have been missing the both of you for some time.

Sam Glad to hear about the call from your mother, miracles are always welcome in this camp.

Speaking of miracles, welcome to our current crop of newcomers, Jo, Gary, David K, Kathy, Lynn H. Keep comin' back, it works if ya work it! I know there are more but my memory is way short.

Jim R, you are doing one hell of a bang up job as our greeter.

Karen, the Friends In Recovery Pic Page AND Message Board will remain as they are regardless of what happens to the CP. They are unrelated and non competetive, my message board just augments this site. Thanks for askin'.

Now I get to talk about me!! Well, my recent experience with an unwilling alkie I've been loosely sponsoring for the last half year.

We talk on the phone regularly see each other at an occasional meeting and he is always unavailable enough to give me the message that he isn't quite ready to do the deal. But I keep plugging away on him anyway. He has been claiming seven months sobriety and been the coffee maker at our Wed. night meeting so if he doesn't "have the time to get together", who's he hurting. hehehehe.

So last night he calls me really hurtin', seems he's been chasing skirts and caught a couple of them over the last few weeks. Didn't figure out that they were sisters till they came to his house and started saying some very nasty things to him. Then their father got into the act. It only got worse from that point.

So about an hour into this conversation, one in which I wasn't being the compassionate friend that he had been looking for, he slips up really bad. Tells me he is really proud of himself because the only time he has gotten close to slipping in the last couple months he only drank a half a beer, he didn't even finish it because he knew that if he kept on and had a couple more it would cost him his sobriety.......AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

I am never suprised by this damn disease. He has "listened" to uncounted people in uncounted meetings share that we don't drink, no matter what, not a drop, one day at a time. He had listened but had not heard because his head has been so full of himself.

By the end of the second hour on the phone he had accused every member of AA as being a "sometimes drinker" , "nobody can really not drink anything at all, social situations sometimes demand you have just a little to be polite"........AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Does that remind you of anyone you have ever known, maybe someone that has looked at you in a mirror? Does me.

7 months into meetings. Makes me respect alcoholism even more because I know what he and I have shared in the past and it went in one of his ears and out the other.

It really made him angry when I told him to either surrender and get honest with the group or go finish the job of bottoming out.

He will be getting honest with the group on Wed. night. If it were me I'd have gone to the next meeting I could find to get it off my chest. Him, he has to set up his own schedule so he can be in pain til Wed night.

Amazing!

Thank God for my sobriety. Its a tough place to get to that jumping off place. Glad I got to it and made the required leap of faith,

keep smilin'

david


Member: Tim G.
Location: SC Tech
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:23:25

Comments

Sorry folks,

It seems we've been down a while. Our host had some technical difficulties. Everything seems to be working fine now. Let us know via email if you have any problems.

mailto:tech@stayingcyber.org


Member: Mouse
Location: Surrey B.C.
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:40:31

Comments

Mouse, Alkie, and sorry for the double dip.

SAM S I'm glad to hear your MOM called you today, small moves, thats all it takes....

TRACY, I am very sorry, for the asumption that you are a girl, I hope that you can forgive me, I am glad you pointed that out,

Mouse norsk@sprint.ca


Member: malcolm f.
Location: st. louis,  mo
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:55:27

Comments

hello everybody, i'm mac a recovering alkie with 3 yrs, by god's grace, aa and my sponsor,sober!! i've just found this site and thought i'd say hello. i've really enjoyed the comments in the "coffee pot" and look for to chatting with you guys..may the HP bless you and help everyone stay clean & sober & serene 1 day at a time!!! check you later


Member: jrr
Location: harmony on the lake
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 23:00:09

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woo.. jim r.. you rascal.. better watch that.. ol' sundunce will have his butt kicked by his lil' spainish gal.. if she thinks he is two timing her.. rest assured.. you are all his.. ! i asked that you not be on the same line as me. .. but dave figured he best put the 2 chefs in the same row.. because it would save the yakking across the page if we get into it late at nite in there.. no one should be kept awake as i tell you a few pointers .. we got that sode---something company here.. at Buffalo State College .. just took over the account.. if you ever visit.. don't call.. LOL.. i will spot your ugly muttface mandoline-lick mug at a meeting.. well. this place is about back to normal.. and i gotta say...lurker.. you should check out the other side... db's spot.. you can show your cowardice there.. you turd ! peace, jrr


Member: Jim G.
Location: Maryland
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 23:51:34

Comments

Larry M., Robert B., A Zane fan,Yvonne, Teri F., Bill J., Joan W.., Christine M., and Janet B.

Thanks for your comments on my last week's COURTSLIP meeting CP appeal about religiosity. I delivered your replies to the chairman and he put Sunday's meeting on the track you recommended. Deo Gratias!


Member: Sanders W.
Location: Graceville, Fl.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 00:14:42

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Hi All Ya'All I am very definately a real alcoholic and my name is Sanders. Mouse I am so glad your Brandy is doing better sand wish you rthe best for him.-----My grandson has beenhere for several days and will be going back on Wed and Tobie is going to miss her double dose of loving that she has been getting while he has been here. I hater to see him leave because he is such a joy to have around for me. I am going to get my daughter to call the vet for me while she is here and talk to him about Tobie and see what she thinks I should do about her health situation. She is very knowledgable of animals and would make an excellant vet with a little formal training.-------My mother has about given up as far as gertting out and going anymore. She is content to just stay in bed and this is not good for her at all. Tomorrow I am taking her out for a psart of the day tosee about her hearing aids but mostly to get her out of the house for some excercise. If she ever stops going and stays in bed it will be over for her very fast we all feel a sshe has always beenvery active.------Sam was glad to see you are making progress with your mother. I know how hard it had to have been for you to make the choice you had to make. Remember God loves all of you and so do I. sanders@wfeca.net


Member: Sheryl
Location: Ga
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 00:29:09

Comments

LMAO

Art... thanks for the "For Sale" thing.. didnt know my exhusband had remarried...lolol.. ah just kidding.

Havent had a drink today.. been getting the.. um.. priveledge? of dealing with life sober. *S.. eh, thats ok.. better than being drunk ANY day

Peace


Member: Delores C.
Location: Las Vegas, Nv.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 00:32:34

Comments

Hay guys,,,this is Delores and I am an alcoholic. Thanks for remembering my other half and me. Been a long time. Sooooo glad to see things are so good here on the "Pot".

I miss Fayla. Where is she? Also,,,where is Swiss Miss? I had a note from Amy SwsMs when I first had the surgery on my foot but no more for a while.

Yes, Steve (Aussie),,,I got sober in Las Vegas and it is not as tough as you might think. In a town where there is booze everywhere there are also AA clubs everywhere. No matter what time of the day or night you are only an hour or so away from a meeting in this town. I'll miss that when I move to North Carolina. Hope I find the same welcome there that I found here. Sure I will. Only thing is they will all think I talk funny. My husband tells me they won't call me a Yankee,,,just a Westerner.

Gotta go and get into the chat room with some more former drunks. Hope I find someone there. Love, Delores


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chgo, City of Broad Shoulders, Stockyards to the World, and the Welcoming Center of the WWW Coffee Pot
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 00:47:13

Comments

Phew!... For a minute there I thought I was out of another job as greeter... Thanks Tim! I can't take another rejection... Being fired at the Walmart was heartbreak enough. Back to work. First things first...WELCOME Steve F.! For the life of me, I don't know why you want to move to Altoona... sounds like Roger Rabbit's hometown... (by the way that sounds like jrr's territory... but he's probably at his Mon night Home Ec class... I here he's trying to bake a jello mold tonight. Here's the imfo for Tuesdays: you can go to 12:15 meeting at Mid-Day Miracles, 1rst Presperterian Church, 1314 12th street... 5pm meeting at crossroads 827 19th st... and an 8pm meeting at the Veterans Home on Rt. 220, it's on the 2nd floor of a red brick building.... # to call in that area for further imfo is 814-946-9002... Nice lady on the phone! Good luck and keep coming back.

Welcome Malcolm F.... Don't worry about "still lurking" everybody's a favorite around here... the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking... but I know you know that I know that you know I know that. And besides, you sound very positive. I want what you have, brother. Keep coming back. I'm determined to welcome everyone who visits this site... That's my job anyway... But as Dr. Bob use to say... It's my pleasure!

Jim G.... did I welcome you last week... I just started this job 2 nights ago... welcome anyway.

jrr, welcome this! db, I'm not bitter... I just can't get in


Member: Shawn S.
Location: SomeWhereIn,CT.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 00:55:07

Comments

Hi Everyone!! My name is Shawn and I am an Alcoholic. This is my first time at the CP. Today I have 24 days sober. I have been around the program for 4 years and I finally feel ready to do the footwork and follow the suggestions to recover. I've done a lot of research and it all has taught me that a sober life is a much better one. I had a hard time giving up all of my old drinking buddies. Funny, they had no trouble giving up me, especially after I told them that I no longer drink. I really enjoy being sober now. I can relate to all of you and its really neat to see that recovery is all over the U.S.A. and even on the internet. I just came home from a meeting. We read the chapter in the BB "A Vision for You". It's awsome that the this huge fellowship all started with one drunk helping another drunk, "sharing experience,strength, and hope". I have a lot of gratitude today for what I have even though I've only been sober 24 days. I heard something good this week that I want to share. First of all, I had a lot of guilt over the things that I did to people when I was drinking. My first sponsor told me that Alcoholism is a disease and that helped to alieviate some of the guilt but not all of it. Last week a counselor brought me to the attention that for a while, alcohol was the only tool I knew how to use for dealing with my fears and insecurities about people. In fact, for a while it worked. But then the disease progressed and I became dangerously anti-social. The tool became worn out and didn't work anymore. In AA I now have new tools a set of "spiritual tools". After my counselor told me this, the guilt that I had for the last 4 years disappeared and a desire to work the steps has emerged. Thankyou for letting me share and for helping me stay sober another day!!


Member: TRACY D.
Location: BOWLING GREEN MO.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 01:26:36

Comments

DEANNA your double dip is ok by me!I enjoyed both,and in a way aren't we feeding each other?Congrats on the big 30! I just got my 90 and I know how good it feels. MOUSE you're forgiven buddy it's an easy mistake to make. HEY, MAC nice to meet you!I live just up the road from you here in scenic Boring Green MO. You're the closest address that I've seen since finding this sight. I've just finished the most bizarre weekend since.I got honest and sobered up!It all started when a female friend in the program asked me if would like go to a meeting later that evening.I, being a recently new born soul no longer looking for alterior motives accepted the invitation.It was'nt until we were almost late for the meeting that I figured out that she had never intended to go to a meeting.I'm not sure what gave me my first clue,maybe it was the way she started talking about how she was'nt happy with her boyfriend/ex~husband or the explicit compliments.Well, by this time I'm plenty uncomfortable.I didn't want to hurt her feelings nor did I want to participate in this game.So in my infinite wisdom /confusion I changed the subject and stalled until I finally got home,alone! The next day she comes by to say that her man knows all about it.About what?I find out later that I was no more than a pawn in her game to make her man jealous.This tends to make me want to re~evaluate my thinking on the motives of people,all people even AA,s.But instead I,ve been turning it over to my HP and trying to keep the faith.Never the less I can be sure that hypocrits can be found anywhere. I still love and you all. PEACE!


Member: Lynn P
Location: Florida
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 01:29:40

Comments

Hi Lynn here I'm at work so this will be short thanks to all who helped me I didn't use with this guy he did but I didn't I choice not to any way its going to be a long night at work so I'll have to keep doing the next right thing. thanks agian to all of you I'm going to my home group tommorow night (Tuesday) so its all well.


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chicago
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 01:38:36

Comments

Shawn... Welcome! Glad to see you back in the program... Guilt Sucks! Take it from a former collector of guilt... the trick today is... try not to do anything to make you feel guilty... Work the steps, go to meetings, keep that sponser... sounds like a good one... take care, buddy...

jrr., that's two welcomes in your territory... I don't mine... Shawnasee sounds like a good lad... got to be Irish... me too... You know the Irish were just about to take over the world a few centuries back... but somebody had to spoil it by developing Whiskey.

I'm going to bed... somebody please cover me... don't want to miss anyone!

Hi Mush!


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chicago
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 01:49:19

Comments

Tracey, did I welcome you... if not, Welcome...Good Night. so much time and not enough work.... strike that... turn it around. Welcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcomewelcome... all work and no play makes jim a dull boy... ALLWORKANDNOPLAYMAKESJIMADULLBOY...aLL wOrK AnD nO PlaY MakeS Jim a Dull BOY...welcome!...............................................W.......e.........l...........c...o....m...e..!


Member: Sundance
Location:
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 02:24:07

Comments

Sundance here, well I feel pretty good today. I feel like I just came out of a rut. But, I'm feeling better now. School and stuff was realy gettung heavy, so I did drop a few cladsses. I still have a desent load, but I will have a better time trying to live life, too.

My Novia is doing fine, she loves me and I love her, mucho!

Hey lurker good to read ya. I love the other BB too. Anyone quoting it should be strong willed enough to take abuse from those who have personal issues with religion, and we should be gratefull that we need not worry about such things as public execusions. Praise God and Jesus!!! And, good job Mary, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, to the newer comers, you are free to find any Higher Power: as long as it makes sence to you.

Jrr is just a sissy. And, his posts repeat every two months, give or take a new word or two. The newest one for him is, turd. Bravo!

Sundance

Sundance


Member: Albert
Location: Il side of St louis
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 02:47:22

Comments

Albert here still sober made another 24, my wife asked how long befor I was cured had to let her know there was no cure other then not taking that first drink.She liked that idea. Glade I have that kind of support at home this would be a lot harder with out her help. And her accountability. Thanks guys for being there, my HP is working over time.Albert


Member: Glen H
Location:
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 06:01:46

Comments

Shannon, I found the number for the Akron office in that site. Try them:

330-253-8181


Member: Karen B.
Location: Tucson,AZ
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 06:49:04

Comments

Hi all and welcome to the newcomers. i've been to david's site as well and am slowly learning a bit about it. C'mon JIM R., you can make it on. DAVID B.- glad the pic page is intact; I'll send one, just to join in. And DAVID, about your "unwilling alkie", I met a guy who was similar. We asked him, after about a months' worth of meetings, if he had quit drinking, or something like that. He said he had. My friend persisted in gently asking him in a different way since she smelled booze on him. He assured her that the only time he drank was before meetings, because the meetings made him nervous! LOL! He's sober now though. Still, he has the same funny logic in other areas. Not that I can boast of much common sense either. Love ya all!


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 06:53:24

Comments

Good morning all.

Tracey--Sounds like you've been introduced to the famous "13th step". Best way to avoid that type of situation in the future is to hang around with the guys.

Shawn---Welcome back to the fellowship!! So happy for you. Hope you'll keep coming back here and letting us know how you are doing.

Sundance--Good to see you and glad to hear you are regrouping with school. It can be overwhelming. Glad to hear all is well with you and your senorita too! Now don't pick on jrr and his colorful vocabulary. I personally get a big kick out of it. The "turd" word cracks me up! I can picture him in his "pepper pants" yellow bandana, long flowing hair in one of those cute hair nets and chef hat, just rattling those pots and pans for Jim R., mumbling "you turd" under his breath. LOL!!

Welcome to the Coffee Pot Malcolm!! Hope you'll continue to post here and share with us.

Lurker---You have such a "spiritual message". Keep coming back. One of these days you won't be afraid to let us know who you are.

Have a wonderful day everyone!

Love and hugs to all............


Member: SHIELAH S
Location: OHIO
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 08:07:01

Comments

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


Member: Pierre S.
Location: Grapevine, TX
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:17:11

Comments

I'm an Alcoholic and my name is Pierre.

Karen, I missed the address for David's new site . Can you update me ? I'd like to check it out.

Thanks

Love and prayers to all


Member: Art P.
Location: New Bern
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:27:29

Comments

Well after making the claim of vast knowledge.....that I too don't need an encyclopedia, and after having posted that quote without first removing the header. I would now like to introduce you to the real me. Are you paying attention Sheryl? (This might also be your ex.) LOL! I hope this link works.

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Name: huya1(~1.bmp huya1(~1.bmp Type: Windows Bitmap (image/x-MS-bmp) Encoding: base64

Tom T. check out this site, a million bucks if you pick all the brackets in the NCAA tournament. we may never have to chop wood again. (RIGHT!)

http://xoom.itsmadness.com/index.html

Welcome newcomers (sorry Jim, I'm not trying to take your job) keep coming back.

God bless all us sick puppy/ette's (and please god dont let me mess this post up)


Member: Art P.
Location: New Bern
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:32:55

Comments

So the link I tryed to send didn't work, sorry Sheryl. E me at artpan@cconnect.net and I'll send it. It's cute. Tom at least the link I sent you got through. One out of two aint bad!


Member: The Government
Location: Everywhere your Paycheck Is
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:38:59

Comments

Lurker, Get a job; get off welfare; quit stealing from the people who really need the place with your judgemental, inventory taking posts.

Yours in the fellowship


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chgo
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:39:36

Comments

WELCOME SHEILA... Keep coming back...

Sundance... I tell my 11 year old all the time to ignore his older brother's teasing... does he listen to me?... not until he's bloodied.

Karen, have you seen jrr's picture?... you might want to re-describe his hair...or lack of it...LOL Yeah, I know, jrr...LOLFME2LOL

Yours in the fellowship

Jim R.


Member: Kim D
Location: Florida
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:52:55

Comments

Good Morning to ALL at the CP, Kim D, Alcoholic/Addict here.

It's a beautiful day here in Central Florida (gardening weather) and it's a good day ANYWHERE to be sober!! I always hated to see the sunrise before I got sober cause I knew it was going to be "just another day" in hell. How pitiful was that? Now, I love to be up before dawn, it's a very spiritual time for me. Makes me feel serene and exhilitrated and the same time. Quite a remarkable difference. Thinking about this makes me very excited for all the folks new in the program like STEVE, TONY, TRACY (and all those I've not mentioned by name, sorry!!!)because,...what A Gift it all is.

((Suzanne))72 Jars of pickles - You're my new role model!!!! Seriously, please email me at tonykim@evcom.net, cause it sounds like I could learn alot about gardening and life from you. This is my first garden and I'm very open to suggestions.

((Brian B))No I have not had the pleasure of crossing the "pond", but I did get the same "related" feeling reading your posts. So many of us in AA are "KINDRED SPIRITS" which is why I feel AA is my "true" family. You can call me your "Soul Sister" anytime you like and feel free to email me as well. Especially if you have gardening experience. I grew up "on the lake" so I know how to fish, but I don't cut bait anymore.

((Malcolm F))Glad you are here, hope to get to know you.

((Dale S))I LOVE that SCOUT analogy 'cause when I got to AA my butt looked like a pin cushion.

((Sanders))Is there rain in your part of Florida today? We need it badly here or we going to start burning again.

((Jim R))Please officially greet me sir 'cause I don't need a another complex.

Hope it a good 24 for us all.

Kim


Member: tom t
Location: tenn
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 09:56:45

Comments

tom,alcoholic,etc.,SHIELH,congrats on 10mos,amazing what happens when we finally wise up.ART,would love the million $,s but the "tons" of other prizes would probably set me on a drunk.LOL Would you folks up north please keep that white stuff to yourselves,some of it is spilling over into Tenn.,and just doesn't look good on the crocus.LILY,how is the little one? SANDERS,getting mixed reports on TOBIE again,sure hope she's o.k.DALE,you zoomed off last night from Bimini,David,Teri,and Connie got on.My keyboard was a mess and so I had problems keeping up,but that's normal LOVE TO ALL


Member: Kim D
Location: Florida
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:03:24

Comments

Hey, Kim D Alkie and so no, again.

Where are these pictures to which everyone's referring lately? I want to see them too!


Member: Raegan
Location: Missouri
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:05:41

Comments

TRACY D: Hey, I'm here and I'm from Missouri!! Well I have to share my experience, strength, and hope for those still "suffering" alcoholics. Remember this phrase: "If you have used ANY mind altering drugs today, please be quiet and listen, if you are called upon to speak, please pass" ANY MIND ALTERING DRUG I have learned that the only thing that passes is prescribed medication that is used for pain!!! Believe you me, I can't even take that anymore, or my alcoholic mind will tell myself that I am always in pain!!! I truly believe that if the BB was written today, it would encourporate drugs as well as alcohol, because alcohol is only the symptom of our alcoholism not the cause!! Those people who "use" are missing out on total sobriety. I know because I have been there. No prozac, no Demerol, No Nubain shots for my migraine, nada. I cannot. Some day I pray that I may be able to use Pain medication without abusing it, but right now, I would not risk even 1 day of sobriety on it. On the subject of hanging out with others who use: I did it and I got drunk. Thanks so much for this site, I gain strength from the posts and the people.

Love, and Peace xxx


Member: tom t
Location: tenn
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:06:20

Comments

tom,alcoholic,etc., including avid fisherman and Gardener. KIM,had to double dip to welcome you to motherearth.It is a great,satisfying way to get food you cannot buy in the store. Nothing tastes like fresh,organic veggies. My one tip,all is in the soil.Compost,compost,compost is the name of the game.Good luck and good eating! LOVE TO ALL


Member: Sam S
Location: Kansas
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:06:58

Comments

Lurker......if you have something to say to me personally, I invite you email me at: schulz@midusa.net otherwise, welcome to recovery on the coffee pot!!.......Good morning to all CPers. I want to thank all who kept me and my situation in your thoughts and prayers. My Mom not only called me yesterday morning, she also called me in the afternoon. Then, unbeknownst to me, her and Dad walked in my door no 15 minutes after we hung up on the phone. We have not broached the subject of her commital, but she did give me a big hug and kiss and spent some time with my son. Miracles!!!!!!I believe. Thank you to CONNIE, for spending time to listen to me Sunday and helping me see that doing nothing in this situation, was the best thing I could hve done. I think that God was just waiting for me to slow down and breathe, before bringing this miracle to light. Love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Member: Deanna
Location: Texas
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:22:47

Comments

Deanna here and I am an alcoholic.

Had a ROUGH night last night. I came real close to throwing in the towel and pulling a good one. I don't have a sponsor yet so I called a woman from my home group and she talked me through it. It is amazing the damage my drinking did to my kids! They are thrilled that I am sober, however, they do not want to accept the "sober" rules. I obviously let them run their own lives and for them "that can't change!" As long as I stay sober and stay out of their lives then everything will be allright. What a hard knot to swallow! I feel like I have been kicked so hard I can't breathe.

I get my one month chip tonight, but what does it really mean? Is becoming sober going to ruin everything else now?? Damn, I am so depressed. I welcome any comments - frog@adamsgarden.com

Thanks

Deanna


Member: Alcoholic, Addict, Julie
Location: Jerusalem
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:24:24

Comments

Hello to everyone. Glad to be clean and sober. I was offline for a couple of days, and when I got online, my head was out-of-order for another couple...This place is great.

I'm willing to do "joke duty" until Denise gets hooked up again:

Little Johnny rushes home from school. He invades the fridge and is scooping out some cherry vanilla ice cream when his mother enters the kitchen. She says, "Put that away, Little Johnny. You can't have ice cream now. It's too close to supper time. Go outside and play."

Little Johnny whimpers and says, "There's no one to play with." Trying to placate him, she says, "OK. I'll play with you. What do you want to play?" "I wanna play 'Mommie and Daddy'," Little Johnny whines in reply.

Trying not to register surprise, and to further appease him, she says, "Fine, I'll play. What do I do?" Little Johnny says, "You go up to the bedroom and lie down as if you're taking a nap."

Figuring that she can easily control the situation, Mom goes upstairs. Little Johnny, acting a bit cocky, swaggers down the hall and opens the utility closet. He puts on his fathers old fishing hat. As he starts up the stairs, he notices a cigarette butt in the ashtray on the end table. He picks it up and slips it in the corner of his mouth. At the top of the stairs he moves to the bedroom doorway.

His mother raises her head and asks, "What do I do now?"

In a gruff manner, Little Johnny says, "You get your bones downstairs and get that kid some ice cream!"


Member: Andy G
Location: Austin,tx
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:30:58

Comments

It's not until the day after, that you realize alcohol is toxic.


Member: Eric H.
Location: Larchmont , NY
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 10:41:06

Comments

Eric Alkie.

God, thank you.

Welcome Shawn.....just wondering, as I was reading your post, I thought of a guy that Karen really cared a lot about, Shawn from CT. Do you know us, Karen and Eric? IF you do, then I am so happy for you, brother, will leave my e-mail at the end of the message. If you don't know us, congrats on making it back! Either way, I'm grateful that you are in the fellowship for today, and that is all we have. Today.

gumheads@aol.com


Member: Kerry B.   3/21/80
Location: Idaho
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 11:03:56

Comments

Kerry, an alcoholic.

URL's that were requested:

For the pictures of some of these fine folks here:

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Quarter/6013/friendsinrecovery.htm

Pierre, for the message board:

http://forums.delphi.com/preview/main.asp?sigdir=soberfriends

Now that we got that out of the way. Sure glad to be here. It's snowing again here on the Snake River Plain. Kim, I'm absolutely green with envy that you can even go turn on the sprinklers!! I'll get over it! I was raised in So. Calif. and I really miss the long growing season. So now, I got snow on the tulips, poor things!! Doesn't it sound absolutely ridiculous that my tulips surviving the frost might just be the biggest deal in my life today?? Can guarantee, it isn't always that way. Some days are just better than others.

Have a good 'sober' day everyone.


Member: Shawn S.
Location: Mansfield, CT.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 11:42:59

Comments

Hi I'm Shawn and I'm a garden variety drunk! Thankyou JIM R., TERI F. KAREN & ERIC!! DEANNA hang in there, its the first drink that gets us drunk. The first sip might be heaven but the rest is all hell!! Congradulations on your 30 days!! I was glad to here that you used the phone. Sometimes that phone seems so heavy to me, and sometimes I like to isolate myself from people. Usually its because of my fears and insecurities around people. Often, however, when I get the urge to drink that phone is one of my most powerful allies, second to my HP! I know that "no human power" can keep me sober, but it sure helps me to share with some one what's going on today. Right now I'm thinking just how great it is to here other Alcoholics in Recovery share. It's nice to know that I'm not on this Jouney alone. I'd never make if I was. Today is a good day I'm sober and all of my basic needs are met. Everything is going to be OK today. Today in Mansfield, Connecticut it is a beautiful sunny day and the last bit of the 4" of snow that we got this past weekend is melting. I haven't yet prayed to my HP this morning to ask for another day sober, so I have to go do that. Eric & Karen I don't know if I now you or not. I am originally from Middletown, Connecticut, but I moved from there about 3 years ago to go to Uconn here in Storrs-Mansfield. Thankyou, everyone, for helping me to stay sober today. I'll keep coming back


Member: TRACY D.
Location: Bored Green Mo.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 11:46:23

Comments

Raegan,Albert,Mac,Good morning fellow misserians Kim D.I too am puzzled as to the whereabouts of this mysterious pic page. TERI F. I posted earlier as to my confusion about this infamous 13th step,please explain. (basically because I am a rookie and this is giving me a complex!!!) I thank you for your support. PEACE


Member: Sundance
Location:
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 12:01:17

Comments

Sundance here, I do not understand your message Jim, but I kind of like the taste of blood. However, I doubt if I'd get the chance to taste any of mine.

As for picking on chefboy or Jrr or whoever, Teri, I have tried several times to be nice to them. And, I do not recall you ever pulling them off me, so I'm sorry if I find your point of view a bit slanted.

He has attacked me on every front that he kan fined, and I let it slide untill he started using my Novia.

Then he was too chicken shit to back up his oun words.

Jrr you are a sissy!

Sundance


Member: Sheryl
Location: Atlanta
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 12:02:45

Comments

Morning..

Ok today is time for a joke.. got this in my email.. too cute!

GREAT TRUTHS ABOUT LIFE THAT LITTLE CHILDREN HAVE LEARNED:

1) No matter how hard you try, you can't baptize cats. 2) When your Mom is mad at your Dad, don't let her brush your hair. 3) If your sister hits you, don't hit her back. They always catch the second person. 4) Never ask your 3-year old brother to hold a tomato. 5) You can't trust dogs to watch your food. 6) Reading what people write on desks can teach you a lot. 7) Don't sneeze when someone is cutting your hair. 8) Puppies still have bad breath, even after eating a tic-tac. 9) Never hold a Dust-Buster and a cat at the same time. 10) School lunches stick to the wall. 11) You can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk. 12) Don't wear polka-dot underwear under white shorts. 13) The best place to be when you're sad is Grandpa's lap.

GREAT TRUTHS ABOUT LIFE THAT ADULTS HAVE LEARNED:

1) Raising teenagers is like nailing Jell-O to a tree. 2) There is always a lot to be thankful for, if you take the time to look. For example, I'm sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt. 3) One reason to smile is that every seven minutes of every day, someone in an aerobics class pulls a hamstring. 4) Car sickness is the feeling you get when the monthly payment is due.

5) The best way to keep kids at home is to make a pleasant atmosphere. and let the air out of their tires. 6) Families are like fudge . . . mostly sweet, with a few nuts. 7) Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground. 8) Laughing helps. It's like jogging on the inside. 9) Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy. 10) My mind not only wanders; sometimes it leaves completely. 11) If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts. 12) You know you're getting old when you stoop to tie your shoes and wonder what else you can do while you're down there.


Member: ...
Location:
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 12:03:25

Comments

MISS


Member: Corinne B.
Location: CA
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 12:07:55

Comments

'Morning ((CPers))!! Corinne, Alcoholic here, there & everywhere!

Kim D - Gardening is a passion of mine, also! I've been dreading leaving my CA one, but my mom just reported that she already has 4 'maters & 2 bell peppers in the "sand" - out here, we got 4-6" of snow last night & due to Hell Nino last year, our CA garden barely ripend tomato 1! E-Mail me if you want, as I'll be over on the "Spaced Coast" come April 7th, and have another AA from out here moving to the southern part of Orlando in July, so if you're in that area, I'd love to hook up, if you're open to it - kokomoro@yahoo.com

Just wanted to post something extraordinary that occurred here this morning! When I got married 4 years ago, I asked my "groom's" daughter to do my hair (she's a hairdresser), giving no thought at the time about how difficult a task this was for her. She & her sister were both miserable being at their father's wedding, which was taking place barely a year after the divorce from their mother (I met him within 2 month of it being final, so had nothing to do with that breakup, BTW). Anyway, over the past 5 years of knowing his kids, there've been many times when one or the other of us has divulged our troubles to them seeking our self-centered bits of relief. So, this morning, he had his hairdresser daughter on the phone (she's a mom-to-be now), and it just came over me in a flash that I wanted to make amends to her for asking her to do my hair at our wedding - telling her how difficult I now realize that must have been for her, as well as apologizing for divulging information to her over the years which was hurtful for her to hear about the troubles within my marriage to her dad. She told me she was so appreciative that I acknowledged her in this way.

Funny, my recent 4th step did not even include her name, but it did include her Dad (of course), so it seems natural that it should follow that my work on him would include his offspring, even without the direct pen-on-paper part of it, if you will.

Coming back in the program this time & the first time too, those amends looked so scary! But by working with good sponsors, all my amends have gone so well, I want to do it more & more! YIKES! That doesn't mean I want to continue effing up so that my daily 10th step can include more amends, BTW! LOL!!

Glad to see everyone keeping sober ODAAT! CB


Member: Brian B.
Location: South Yorkshire, UK.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 13:02:52

Comments

Kim D, thanks for the invite to e-mail you, "Soul Sister" I have some jokey one`s stacked up, (mainly from my daughter, now there`s a kid, she`s whole-saling Californian Wine in the UK!).

Just a brief note to Deanna, well done, my dear, and welcome to the real world. Many of us went through similar experiences in the early days, it`s well documented. What I think happens here, is that without booze anaesthetising our feelings, we become very much aware - and we hurt with all kinds of emotions from people, places and things. (I say we, but of course, I can only talk about myself). Recovery, if nothing else, is a crash course in growing up and that was painful for me to admit, that at 30,(when I hit bottom) I still had the emotional capabilities of a teenager. It gradually gets better with a few 24 hours under the belt, the operative word is "better", not easier.

Quotes of the week, or Anagrams.

Dormitory - dirty Room. Evangelist - Evil`s Agent. Desperation - A Rope ends it. The Morse Code - Here come dots. Slot Machines - Lost cash in `em Animosity - Is no Amity Semolina - is no meal The Public Art Galleries,- Large Picture halls,I bet. Snooze Alarms - Alas! no more Z`s Alec Guinness - Genuine Class. Mother in law - Woman Hitler, (thats Favorite!) A decimal point - a dot in place. The Earthquakes - That queer shake. Eleven plus two - Twelve plus one. Contradiction - Accord not in it. President Clinton of the USA - to copulate, he finds interns. See Ya, friends!!


Member: Zane
Location: Upstate NY
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 13:35:03

Comments

CORINNE:

Can you please explain something in your post?

Here it is:

What book was used to instruct you that you need to make amends to a person for asking them to do your hair? Did they accept or were they forced to do your hair while under gunpoint?

If they were not forced to do your hair, and did so of their own free will, there is no amends to make.

In my experience in the amends making process, we made amends to those persons who were harmed by our actions. So....

How did asking her to do your hair harm this individual?

I would be glad to read any comments you can make on this subject.


Member: Zane Fan
Location: Everywhere
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 14:02:41

Comments

Hey Nikki, can you answer this one for Zane? Just pretend like it's nails instead of hair


Member: Larry M.
Location: Virginia Beach
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 14:15:21

Comments

Raegan: Thanks for sharing your ES&H, but please remember, it is just that: YOUR ES&H and not what anyone else's ES&H is necessarily supposed to be. I've heard the "group conscious" at some meetings about "don't share if you've used mind-altering drugs in the past 24 hrs" and think it's a violation of our Traditions. Other substances are outside issues. There's a large percentage of people at meetings who are on anti-depressants such as Prozac. Are they ALL supposed to be discouraged from sharing? I think anti-d's are very over-prescribed, but that's just my opinion and I have no right to try and impose it upon AA. I know people who consider nicotine and caffeine to be mind-altering substances (I persoanlly agree, although IMO they are very weak in that respect). Singleness of purpose is crucial. If Alcoholics Anonymous" gets adulterated into "Mind-Altering Substances Anonymous", then some of us will just have to start "Alcoholics-Only Anonymous" to survive. Alcohol has a very unique effect on certain individuals, an effect that no other substance duplicates. I think identification is critical to recovery and it hurts AA when the rooms are filled with people talking apples and oranges.

Before I get bombarded with ad hominem attacks, I think I should point out that I've never been on anti-d's, have never attended a meeting while under the the influence of any drug (except nicotine and caffeine), with the exception of 2 times in 9 years when I was taking painkillers. On those occasions, I didn't share because it didn't feel right, not because it was a "rule". I have also declined to share on a couple of occasions when I was not feeling right due to illness, especially when I was taking antihistamines (and NOT 50 proof NYQUIL! LOL). But that was a personal decision, as it should be for everyone.

As far as alcohol being merely a "symptom", I beg to differ (fully aware that BB does contain words to that effect). According to the BB, the "causes" are generally selfishness and self-centered fears and more specifically, resentments and other character defects. If this is really true, then don't ALL selfish, self-centered people qualify for AA? And once we recover from these "causes", shouldn't we be able to safely drink again? Obviously not. There is definitely something amiss with that whole theory. There are a bunch of theories out there these days on the "causes" of alcoholism: liver malfunction, genetic predisposition, environmental factors, etc. I don't know what the truth is and I don't really care. My guess it's probably a combination of all those things - whatevah. All I care about is the solution. What I do know for sure is that I drank alcoholically from Day 1, when I was 12 years old, and that alcohol has always had an effect on me that no other drug has. It ELIMINATED my fears when other drugs merely masked them a bit or even increased them. It is cunning, baffling, and powerful unlike any other drug I have ever taken. I have to keep my focus on alcohol. That's why I came to ALCOHOLics Anonymous...and it worked. If other people have other experiences, that's fine and I'm interested in hearing their ES&H, but please don't impose those views on AA.

Peace & Serenity


Member: Horschak
Location: 4th Largest City in the USA
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 14:20:49

Comments

Ooh Ooh Mista Cotta, I know dee ansa!

Because it placed her in a difficult, uncomfortable position?


Member: Deanna
Location: Texas
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 14:31:07

Comments

Deanna here and I am an alcoholic. I just wanted to tell Julie from Jerusalem and Kim D. thank you so much for writing to me today. It did make me feel a whole lot better. Everyone here is a God-send to me. Thanks again.

Deanna


Member: Mr. Cotta
Location: 4th Larger City etc.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 14:32:19

Comments

Very Good, Horshack!


Member: Sanders W.
Location: Graceville, Fl.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 15:34:47

Comments

Hi all Ya'all I am very definately a real alcoholic and my name is Sanders. Tom, Tobie is still with me but still sick. I don'r know how the rteport that shge was dead got out but she is not dead and I'm glad it was a mistake. My daughter is supposed to be here most anytime and I amgetting her to call the vet to talk with hima bout Tobie and her condoition to give me some new pointers on how to deal with her condition. I took my mother over to get her hearing aids checked and shje had a good time bgetting out but has now refused to go eat with us so she is still wanting to just lay in bed which is not good at all fgor her to do.------Glad to see you are still making progress in your relationship with your mother Sam and hope it continues to get better each day. God loves yoiu and so do I sanders@wfeca.net


Member: jrr
Location: still owning that vast expanse between SUN DUNCE's flappy ears...
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 15:44:40

Comments

SUN DUNCE in dA houSSSSSSSEE...!! listen you little whiny titty sissy girly turdbrain closeted queen.... and your little skinny makeup wearing boyfriend who wants to be a latin princess right out of the Village in NYC... NOVIO.. aka CHOCHA... someone asked me to leave you be.. but obviously being of the screwed up sexual persuasion and not quite ready to come out.. you like gettiing slapped around, humiliated and probably soiled upon.. so.. just to make sure we are still on the same page, i figured i would give you a cheap thrill.. you sack of trembling cowardice, get over it you turd... .you just are not that important.. and I would venture to say .. .this place is sick of your damn victim act.. you wanna run with the big boys.. y'all best lift your leg a bit higher.. or you will get stepped on.. you illiterate jackass.. is it a correspondence school you are attending..? or is your latin she-male tutoring you..? anyway.. be hearing from your whiny sissy turd face later.. please.. give this site a break. i think everyone is sick and tired of your bitchie richie act.. grow up you wanna be girly whoosie.. peace, jrr this deal works! i promise ...


Member: Terry P
Location: Long Beach CA
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 16:02:54

Comments

Hello everyone this si Terry and I am a Drunk. Sorry I have not posted in a while I have been exsperiencing some growing pains that I never want again. I have spent a lot of the last 3 weeks cring and letting go of people places and things. My bestest friend got so sick I thought I was going to lose him. I have never fely so lost and scared then the last three weeks I made poor judgements and choices and impossed myself in self isolation to protect myself from being hurt again. I stopped dating and just shut people out all togther but through it all the thought of drink was not there. Running away was and it took every thing in my power to stay put.... I need to make amends to all those that I hurt and bothered and this is the most safest way I know how. I want to share something with you all that has been helpfully in bringing me back.... Evey relationshipis ateacher.If I dont learn the teacher will come back (Brenda M.Schaeffer} We get as many chances as we need to master the lessons destined for us in life,thats good.It removessome of the anxiety about not getting everything right the first time.While it may not be easy to admit we are relearning and old lesson,the women who share our experiences in recovery understand. And there is no shame attached,except that which we haven't yet learned to shed. There is apositive way to meet the return of a familiar lesson. We must be willing to give it a try once again. Then we need to have faith that we're ready to make progress. Life is relationship,we can't avoid it. We can learn to love and to accept love through relationships.We canknow forgiveness through them too. Mastering these lessons is all our Higher Power hopes for us. I am a willing student today,I will expect an important lesson from every relationship. I am sorry this is so long I have not been posting in a long time and Just wanted to say thank you all for being a part of my recovery and from the very bottom of my heart please forgive this selfish and inconciderate drunk.....


Member: tom t
Location: tenn
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 16:28:26

Comments

tom,alcoholic,etc., SUNDANCE & JRR,one of you or both of you need to stop.Flip a coin,talk to HP, whatever,but please end it now,o.k.? You both got a lot to offer when not cussing each other,so as the sneaker folks say,"just do it".


Member: david  b         9/8/81
Location: BIMINI
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 16:38:26

Comments

Jim R, Karen was speaking about the picture of jrr that only the members of The Friends In Recovery Message Board have been able to see. I kinda did a little tiny bit of inhancement and by golly he came out down right pretty. You oughta see it. If only you weren't so terribly cyberly challenged. LOL. I'm keepin track and thus far you are the only one that hasn't been able to get in, I'm about to take it personally.

Sheilah, way to be on 10 mos. Keep hangin in there kid. This is the only way to go for me. I love sobriety and the friends it has brought my way!

Pierre, Kerry put the url in already I think, but if you need it email us at abonded@srv.net

I have to go open another car, will post a little later,

love ya all,

david

You are still doin a hell of a job as our greeter.


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 16:43:13

Comments

Zane, using and manipulating people for our own selfish purposes definitely causes harm.

Sundance---was just trying to poke a little fun at the vision of jrr in pepper pants. And he does make me laugh. Your deal with him is between you and him. I was just trying to be friendly. If you have a problem with that, then I guess it will just have to BE your problem. I do care about you as a friend on this site, but will refrain from expressing that in the future. I really didn't mean to upset you or stir anything up. Sorry.

Tracy--13th step is when sicko AA members prey on vulnerable new comers to "help" them. They enjoy the challenge of sweeping the new person, who's been sober about 10 minutes, right off their feet. I have seen both men and women do this. That is another reason it is a good idea to get a sponsor as soon as possible, and why you've probably heard people tell you to hang out with the guys. If you come to AA to get sober, you can. If you come to AA to get laid, you can get that too. The choice is entirely yours. Good luck friend, and keep coming back.

Time to run.

Love and hugs to all........


Member: Mouse
Location: Surrey B.C.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 16:57:25

Comments

Mouse here, & I'm a Alkie.

SHAWN S welcome.... Sanders, I hope your Mom gets active again, and I am glad that Tobie is doing well, Love ya all, I wish you all another 24, & one for me.....

Mouse norsk@sprint.ca


Member: david b         9/8/81
Location: BIMINI
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 17:21:52

Comments

On the question of 13th stepping, Tracy, it was covered masterfully by Teri just a couple posts above. I have an overpowering desire to continue being honest with the fellowship though. Whenever this topic pops up I have to tell y'all that Kerry 13th stepped me about sixteen and one half years ago. It's still workin today, course I did have about 10 months under my belt when she did it. What can I say, the poor girl couldn't resist my animal magnetism. LOL.

Jim R, just on the possibility that you CAN"T get in I am going to take mercy on you and email you my little picture of jrr with hair, how 'bout that my friend? Get to checkin your hotmail site pretty quick and then let us know how ya like it.

keep smilin'

david


Member: Diane
Location: Northwest Hills of CT
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 17:25:57

Comments

Hi AAll! Diane, alcoholic, grateful to be in recovery today.

JAY B -- Somehow I've lost your e-address. Go figure...we've been writing almost a year, right? My turn to write, so please forward your address to me. Thanks big guy!

To AAll -- God Bless and have a "sparkling 24"!

AALove, Diane


Member: Sam s
Location: Kansas
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 17:26:43

Comments

Zane.....with your experiences in life, I'm quite surprised that you didn't get Corrines' point about asking her future step daughter to do her hair for her wedding, of which her future step daughter was still hurting from her Dad and Mom's divorce. I think the point Corrine was trying to make was that she didn't take her husbands' daughters feelings into consideration when she asked her to get her hair ready for the wedding that her husband's daughter wasn't sure if she was ready to accept. You know, thinking of others first and considering their feelings. Corrine.....Please, correct me if I'm way off. You did good in letting her know that she does matter in your life. Terry P....I went for a year without going out, dating or socializing. It was hell, but it taught me that I do need people and that my feelings in a relationship were not the only feelings that were important. I did take that time to really look in the mirror and I hated to admit that fact that I wasn't a very good friend or date or daughter for that matter, as I didn't even have a real relationship with myself or a HP. Hang in there.


Member: newbeastie
Location: In the SNOW in Dixie
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 17:50:39

Comments

Hi Folks, the NewBeastie is here..alkie & internet addict. TOM T. Is 100% right!!! You guys should quit this squabbling and name-calling. Think about it...you all wouldn't carry on like that face-to-face... Down here in Dixieland, words like you guys call each other are grounds for a duel!! Be nice, now!! OK?


Member: Ken A
Location: Milwaukee
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 18:10:02

Comments

I'm not dead or gone, just haven't posted in a while. It's good to see so much good stuff going on here these days (OK, there are a few exceptions).

Thanks for being here.


Member: Geri W
Location: Va
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 18:39:28

Comments

Deanna, happy 30 days. I feel your pain around the kids. Mine didn't appreciate a sober mom paying attention either. They finally got used to it.

Sundance and Jrr - play nice.

Sanders, hope Tobie gets better.

Everyone else, have a great 24. Hugs


Member: Dale S.
Location: Land of a 1000 words
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 18:42:11

Comments

Good to hear from you Sanders. Glad to hear Tobie is doing ok. No more root beer floats? Haven't heard you talk about the in awhile. I always stop to read what you right always seem so peaceful except for that flare up last week. Do I sense a bit of sentiment for the 'ol' Coffee Pot. I feel the same way there is something exciting here.

Lynn P-- You chose wisely.

Pierre--Ican't wait for you to come on over to Bimini Dave's message board. Actually the real name is Friends in Recovery Message Board but that sort of boring. What are your thought on this? ( I just being stupid)

tom t -- I am really sorry I missed that chat last night but I'm glad I did. I got some well needed sleep in only got 2.5 hrs the night before. But I know you guys are really trying to ditch me.

Raegan -- I am glad you add " for my" after the drugs you lumped together as "mind altering." There are some folks that must use drugs. They are life sustaining to some.

Yeah Sam I'm with you let's kick that lurkers ass! Oh that's right you are the one that ditched me last night. Hey where you going? Don't just walk away from me when I'm talking to you. HEY! Wait up don't leave me here. HEY! HEY! HEEEEEEY!……………… damn it!

Deanna -- The best and most fulfilling years of your life lie ahead of you. This is one of the many promises of the Big Book and that book don't lie. You are on the right path now just keep putting one foot in front of the other. You left your e-mail so expect an e-mail from me in the next day or two maybe I can show you how to find the new and wonderful that I did.

Good one Julie

Larry M.-- Good point about alcohol being only a symptom and the idea about If this is really true, then don't ALL selfish, self-centered people qualify for AA? I know where your going with this. I think is admirable to question the Big Book. I refuse to just believe because I am told to. The message must have depth and weight for this alcoholic. I am going to have to back and reread your post and once again ask you to discuss your contrary opinion. Good call man!

And Jim ---as far as it goes for rounding up all these strays welcome to Terry P, jrr, Deanna, Zane, Brian B, Corinne B,. Sheryl,: Sundance, TRACY D,. Shawn S, Kerry B, Eric H,. Andy G, Julie Sam S (ditcher), Kim D, Jim R,. Art P, Pierre S,. SHIELAH S, Teri F, Karen B,. Glen H, and Albert,. So I got a few of the hired hands mixed in with the heard I'll sort em out back in the barn. "Its your misfortune and none of my own ….do dee do.. do dee dooo

And I can assure every one that coffee is not mind altering. LMAO


Member: KATHY
Location: N.Y.
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 18:54:08

Comments

Hi, my name is Kathy and I am an alcoholic.I am kind of new to the c.p. I have enjoyed all most all of the comments. I am going through some growing pains,and really enjoyed (SHERYL's)jokes. Thanks SHERYL. I don't feel like drinking and I am just tired of feeling. I have been around long enough to know this will pass,and I have alot of fears to face. So I will put one foot in front of the other, can you hear them stamping!

Thank for letting me share, Kathy


Member: Connie--Alcoholic
Location:
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 19:13:57

Comments

Deanne--Happy one month 30 days today, that is great, I am also so glad you decided to contact someone in your home group instead of picking up. I like seeing people actually doing the footwork to stay sober. It shows me, if I keep doing what I see other doing, I will stay sober too. Thanks again,

Terry P. --we all have lessons to learn in our life time, so are good and some are bad, but we learn from them all. I am still learning, odaat. I had to let go of a lot of people in my life, to take care of me. It called growth, either, we stay unhealthy, or we grow.

My life right now, is so calm, I need to go back and finish my fourth step on fears. I am doing really well these days. My friends in my life are changing everyday, god seems to be putting different people my way all the time for a reason, I do have some the same, however, I have a lot different ones. I guess it is called growing. and we all do that.

Have a happy and sober day!!!


Member: jrr
Location: harmony on the lake
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 19:39:41

Comments

waaaaaaaaaaah... eh.. can't help it. .. she/he sun dunce asked for it.. y'all know i have been playing nice, ain't my fault she/he.. sun dunce , likes to get kicked around... hell i am obliging.. that is all.. and Jim "crocker" R...is it true you are the ONLY one who can't get there..? damn man.. i figured you would have it going on with that too cool menu you prepared...enjoy the picture. that was after a chili-infused old rice slather... that hair took off.. had to have been the imported peppers.. those damn scotch bonnets rock.. ! peace, jrr


Member: jrr
Location: harmony on the lake
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 19:43:55

Comments

as in ' betty crocker'...


Member: Bill j. 12 19 75
Location: Kingsville Texas
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 20:29:29

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AA's three R's Relationships- Resentments - Relaps in that order. When we learn to go slow the fun last longer. Glad to see the Pot calming down some. Good to see so many newcomers. Sanders had a golden retreaver called Angel and had to put her down last year .Cryed like a baby but at least she did not have to suffer. A cat adopted us this year and they are different but I love Boots now.Bye to my cyber friends


Member: Jim R.
Location: Chgo
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 20:33:01

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Work, work, work, work, work, work, Greetings folk! You've all been helping me greet the newcomers I see... but you missed a few... Welcome Raegan.... Ahhh the "Show me State"... makes sense that you make sense> Keep coming back

Kim P. WELCOME.... Sorry I missed you. Terri P. Welcome, we don't have enough Terri's here... you should fit in nicely... wait a minute! Your one of the original three T's... aren't you?

Deanna, Don't throw in the towel... you'll need it to clean up the mess you make if you start drinking again... Get that chip and hold on tight... It' quite a ride, being sober!

Andy G.... So true... So True... Welcome!

Brian, You spout much wisdom, mate... I'm an adolescent... about age 13... the good thing about growing up again is that I can leagally do almost anything I want... but still am faced with the mental capacity of a teen... I know everything and don't listen too well... Good thing my sponser's around to point that out from time to time...

jrr... Your like a friendly 'ole(and I stress old) Pitt Bull. Can play nice with the kids, but once you see a little blood... BAM!...the old instincts come back... Heal boy. Com'on Sundance... I told you to ignore your brother....

Hey jrr, watch those harbenero's,... I was seeding about 2 #'s of those suckers without gloves... and went to the bathroom without thinking.... and OHWWWWWWWWWAHHHHHHHHHHEeerrrr!

David, that's cerebrally challenged, in general. Where's that pic of senior chef... all I got was the Y2K joke.


Member: Zane
Location: Upstate NY
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 21:07:03

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I can certainly understand Corinne's wanting to make amends, but I was sincere when I asked for more information.

There are all sorts of situations that arise when I work with newcomers, and wanting to know all I can...I just needed to see the connection. I was not trying to be cute.

I am still unclear as to whether Corinne is making the amends because she ASKED or because the girl DID her hair, and if the latter, here are some of my deeper questions:

1. Did the hairdo like, really suck, or what? Do you get it?

2. Did the girl who did the hair ask Corinne not to ask her, or did she refuse in any way before the gun was put to her head? This one is extremely important because I have considered using something more convincing than a ball bat for my sponsees, and if Corinne is having good success with the gun thing, I mean, Hey, let's try anything that works, right?

3. Did making restoration for the (insert whatever the hell happened in real life here) include restitution, and if so did either of these occur at any time during the amends>

a.) THE HAIRDO WAS UNDONE,

or b.) a gift certificate for a NEW hairdo was issued

And finally, (I am know you are happy about THAT), did the amends also include hairspray, and if so, was it the good stuff instead of that 50 cent per bottle stuff at the clearance store?

I need to know these things, otherwise I would not ask. I am troubled, perplexed, both nonplussed and jaded, not to mention mildly chagrined.

Please, oh please, help me, help me!

Bye! :-)

P.S. I must ask this one last question, and then I'll go....

Were any of the following involved in the ordeal in question, and if so, were they the results of the alleged hair-do?

1. Shame Spiral

2. God Box

3. Gratitude List

4. Willie Nelson

5. Anything by Ron Popeill

or ...

6. Was Marianne Williamson a guest at the wedding, or at any subsequent reception?

Thank you so much.


Member: Kerry B.   3/21/80
Location: Idaho
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 22:00:56

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Kerry, an alocholic

Zane, I'm laughing my a@# off!! Too much!!

And to all of you,I don't know how many times I have to say this, or how many times you'll have to read this, but contrary to what my dear sweet David tends to think is the truth, I DID NOT 13TH STEP HIM!!!! As a matter of fact, I was doing just fine, minding my own business, doing what Sam S. talked about, I was busy tending to a relationship with my Higher Power, and learning how to be happy all by myself, when this guy "just happened to sit next to me" at this meeting. Yea, right, like there weren't any other chairs there!! LOL I later found out that he had "met" me at a midnite meeting, when he only had 30 days. Now, I didn't remember this, but he did. So you tell me!! It was after that meeting that I asked all the people sitting with us, having coffee after the meeting, to go do some roller skating the next day. You all know the rest of the story. David, knock it off!!

To Tracy - you've been getting good advice here, it's to bad we all don't just "straighten up" and fly right when we get sober. I hated it when I found out that just because someone is going to meetings and talking the talk, doesn't necessarily mean that they are always going to treat others with respect for their feelings. It was a let down, but also was necessary for me to see that I hadn't really found "woodstock" LOL (well, for me it was woodstock, can't help it, I'm from that time frame) That's reality, doesn't mean I have to allow others to treat me badly either, but I do have to keep my eyes and ears open, so that I didn't fall "prey" to those folks. I know your eyes are open now. I want to add that I have met more trustworthy folks in the halls then the other kinds.

Okay, twice today - I'm outta here.


Member: Joan W
Location: Upstate NY
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 22:13:30

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Hi Everybody;

Jim R, Greeter extraordinaire (SP). You are truly gifted! K-mart missed the boat, big time!!

I would like to welcome all the newcomers too, those new to recovery and new to the coffee pot. When I first came into AA I was hopeless and helpless. The first two things I remember hearing were "you never HAVE to drink again", and "you never HAVE to be alone again". There was hope and there was help, what a wonderful, wonderous gift. And the blessings and rewards continue to grow in my life, in direct proportion to the amount of work and effort I choose to put into my recovery.

Congratulations to Sheila(10 mos.) and Deanna (30 days), and to any others who are celebrants today. Jim G, I'm glad things are working out in your courtslip meeting. Tracy, I have found that there are many, many, many people that are in AA and in the coffee pot who are truly working a program of recovery. They offer hope and love and acceptance. And, for them that is it's own reward. They have no ulterior motives. They are unsung heroes to me, and the people I hope to be like 'when I grow up'.

I am back to work this week (after a week's vacation), and I'm in caffeine withdrawal LOL. I miss the time I was able to spend online. This computer really is addictive for me.

Well, that's it for now. Thanks to all of you for helping me to stay sober this day.

Please, God, Bless us everyone.

Love, Joan


Member: Denise J
Location: Michigan
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 22:16:10

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I"M BAAAACK!!!! Denise here, thanks for keeping my seat open everyone. I tried to post last night, it was a really great post as a matter of fact. Took over as the greeter, and shook everyones hands with a warm welcome. Then hit the damn send button to find an error, or lost site or some damned thing. I tried again.... with the usual, and once again hit the send, nadda!

So, I'll try tonight. No greetings though, seems that's been taken care of.

I went to two new meetings, one Sunday night, and one today at noon. Great meetings, and a lot of women there too- as I am still looking for a sponser, this was good. 55 Days today!!! I learned a lot at both meetings, and at the last one, sat next to one of the most prominant business men in the city- it just goes to show me, that alcohol isn't prejedice!

The best thing I heard was from an older gent., he said he thnks he has another drunk within himself, but probably not another recovery!! I needed to hear that! He then looked right at me, and said he needed to see new faces like me there- it just keeps him going! WOW- I needed him just as much as he needed me!

I'm officially back to being "legally on line", and have installed the extra phone line- geez- they call me about four times a day! I'm referring to my sentence as "being grounded"!! But I remember when my mom grounded me, I just bugged the hell out of her, and she always let me out of it! I don't think this will work with wotilla the hun- aka- the corrections officer in charge of my tether. So I'll just keep on keeping on, and be thankful I'm able to be at home, and not in jail. Thanks to SHIELA S- I will remember and learn from your post!

Thanks also to Julie (Jerusalem)- for giving everyone a laugh in my brief abscense. Glad to hear everyones pets are coming along, and hope to hear more good news. Thanks Brian for the recent jokes to my email- they are a bit much for the cp, but not too much for this sick and sober mind!

Congrats on the anniversaries, glad to hear about them! I have yet to pick up a chip- do you need to ask for them?

Short joke- hey? Did everyone or just the drowning friend, enjoy the rump roast? Must have had a few god days- hugh?

One afternoon, I was in the back yard hanging the laundry when an old, tired-looking dog wandered into the yard. I could tell from his collar and well-fed belly, that he had a home. But when I walked into the house, he followed me, sauntered down the hall and fell asleep in a corner. An hour later, he went to the door, and I let him out.

The next day he was back. He resumed his posisiton in the hallway and slept for an hour.

This continued for several weeks. Curious, I pinned a note to his collar: "Every afternoon your dog comes to my house for a nap."

The next day he arrived with a different note pinned to his collar: "He lives in a home with TEN children- he's trying to catch up on his sleep."

Good night everyone, here's to another 24!


Member: MaRY w
Location: kiss in ks
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 22:42:58

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i'm back and still sober..! had some computer trouble over the week end..... mom will have her biopsy tomorrow. jim r. keep up the good work as greeter! i'd like to welcome all the new people to this site. i hate naming because i always forget one or two. but. i'm glad you are here... hugs


Member: Dale S.
Location: California
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 22:51:09

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That hair joke went right over my head. Kerry I believe you you might not have actually 13th stepped him. Asked him rollerskating at 3 months Oh! Nothing Nothing just forget I even mentioned this. I believe you I really do.

Everybody keeps ditching me over in Bimini but you folks in the Coffee Pot are like hostiges. I don't make friends I take hosetages!


Member: Linda M.
Location: California
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 23:24:40

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TO LARRY M. FROM VIRGINIA BEACH: For your information, I do believe that Raegan's post was relating to a newcomer whom was smoking POT and ASKED for some insight on whether or not she "lost" her sobriety. She also claimed to be having a relationship with someone who continuously used drugs, and had no intention to stop. If you think that POT is not a mind altering drug, then I feel sorry for you. Next time you attack someone for sharing in a meeting at least attempt to get your facts straight, I think you were very unfair and you read her post the wrong way. I read about people's dogs!!!! No offense, but how in the hell is that going to help me stay sober? We do not have the right to tell someone not to share a paticular part of their life. That is what AA is all about, I re-read her post and did not see that she was "telling" anyone not to take prescription medication. She was sharing her story, just like we all do, this is what helps us. I read about these people's lives, and it helps me to know that there are other Alcoholics out there who are going through the same things I am. Even if I don't care to hear about someone's dogs, I care about THEM and that is what truly matters. I think it is very dangerous when we tell other AA members what to share, who are we to do that? By the way I wonder if Raegan and I are the only people who have difficulty with other areas of our lives besides alcohol Hm...........


Member: MaRY w
Location:
Date: 09 Mar 1999
Time: 23:38:21

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double dipping ..oh well, acceptance.. STIEFF, YOU ARE GREATEST. jim r. could the problem getting to the FIR message board have to do with the enter key? just had to say it .....LOL


Member: Larry M.
Location: Virginia Beach
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 00:16:49

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LINDA M: What the hell are you talking about? First of all, I already posted something in direct response to the lady who was concerned about her and her boyfriend's pot smoking. Secondly, the post of mine that set you off didn't tell Raegan what she could share, quite the contrary. I thanked her for sharing her ES&H. I took issue with "group consciouses" read at the beginning of certain meetings that tell people that they are not welcome to share - to fully participate in AA - if they have used "mind-altering substances". One of the substances she mentioned was Prozac. Nowhere was pot mentioned. Of course pot is a mind altering substance - where would you get the impression that I didn't think so? Certainly not from anything I posted here. I even stated that I was sympathetic to those who think nicotine and caffeine are mind altering substances (although I think the term "mood" altering is more accurate)!

As far as I'm concerned, anyone can share whatever they feel they need to share during a meeting, whether it's about alcohol, drugs, their dogs, their families, their religious beliefs, whatever. What I am adamantly opposed to is AA groups taking positions on outside issues, drugs other than alcohol being one of those issues. It violates our Tenth Tradition.

Please pay attention before you fly off the handle. If you disagree with me, fine. Go ahead and attack what I say, but I suggest you actually read my comments first. I'm well aware that people disagree with me and wouldn't have posted my comments if I were not prepared to argue the point civily. But please don't personally attack me for ridiculous views that you fabricate and then attribute to me.


Member: John P
Location: W.Pa.
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 00:20:35

Comments

My name's John, a grateful alcoholic, snowed out of my meetings today -- looks like this one's over, nothing's been on for an hour or so. It's nice to read your contributions. By no other means but AA I've been around awhile. Our viewpoints change, which is why it is helpful to hear everything people say. I may be more "informed" about AA now than I was back at the start, but I was putting more sheer effort into staying sober then than I would even know how to do now. So I appreciate being allowed to listen in (read in?) or whatever. I'll probably make a noon meeting Wed. Thanx.


Member: Art P.
Location: New Bern
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 00:37:25

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Larry, thanks for caring the message. It still baffles me why people get their hackle up when ever their reminded this program is called Alcoholic's Anonymous. The ONLY requrement is a desire to stop drinking. And if you want to smoke pot, have kinky sex, beat your wife/husband/dog, or are circumcized has no place as a requirement for membership. What's so complicated about that?

AA is all inclusive, and every where I've been the new comer is welcomed with open arms. But some wish to maintain their uniqueness, by introducing themselves as an alcoholic in the attic. So what else are you???? That's excactly where the steps of the program come in. God knows that if I had to pass a moral fiber test for membership I'd have died drunk.

I wish that all my defects died and went to heaven when I entered the doors of AA, but unfortunatly I still have every one of them I came in with. (I speak only for me.) But the neat part is that they are subdued to the point that most of the time I have peace and serenity. And that wasn't what I was looking for when I joined the fellowship......came in with back problems......if only people would get off it! My quest in sobriety today is for peace, and serenity.

Heard some thing neat today; "I drank to loose guilt, and lost joy.

Don't drink and go to meeting!

God bless all us sick puppy/ette's


Member: JimR."Crocker"
Location: A picture in jrr's wallet
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 00:41:30

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oooppps, I think I might a missed a few visitors... Damn!

Hey, Pierre... Welcome... cool name for a town (Grapevine)... I read the map all the time.

Hi Sheila, welcome... welcome also to Geri W.

Denise, I sent that dog over.... never have to worry about any pests or vermon in my house... my kids can drive out the devil himself... When I pull up in front of the house after work... my cat's at the window... looking out at me like a hostage pleaing for release...

Welcome back, Zane... addictive... isn't it? Rule 62 looks good on you. Don't forget the comedy rule of 3 tho.

Joan W... Thanks for the kindness... I've been given a gift from God and people like yourself... together, we share experience strength and hope... and a good laugh once in awhile... life is good... let's keep it that way!

Mary, hope things work out for Your Mom... Keeping the Enter Key depressed with prayers.

Dale... don't feel bad... they restricted me. I'm not bitter tho.

We were talking about guilt earlier... well about my posts lately....ahh, the hell with it!... why should I feel guilty.... I'm the Greeter! WELCOME!

Barry and Tim... am I going to be recieving an E-mail soon? If so, can you give me enough time to line up another gig?


Member: Kerry B
Location:
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 00:57:33

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It was 10 months - geez Dale!!! LOL

If your gonna get after me, you better get your facts straight there!!! Woof, Woof.

David, if you ever mention that again, your gonna have some trouble with me, ya hear??


Member: Zane
Location: Upstate NY
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 01:01:24

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CORINNE:

I am sorry for my parody. Jennifer just went over my post with me, and I feel like an asshole for some of the stuff I wrote (which is usually the actual case, albeit unintentional at times), and I want to apologize for trying to be funny, Corinne.

She read over your post with me and helped me see what I missed.

I applaud you for doing what you did, and for making that girl a part of your loving life. I know exactly what it feels like to have someone say, "Hey, thanks for caring. I had no idea I mattered."

Corinne, any amends is a good amends for me personally, and when in doubt as to when one needs to be made, I make it anyway. I'd rather be over-apologetic than dirty before God.

Thanks for helping me today, Corinne. And thanks to Jennifer for setting my silly ass straight.

P.S. To LARRY: Why is it that I not only understand what you say, but that it also makes sense to me?

Keep the faith, man.

Namaste'


Member: Robert B.
Location: Boise  Idaho
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 01:14:09

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Hi. My name is Robert and I am an alcoholic.

Welcome to any newcomers. If you are an alcoholic, and are willing to go to any lengths for victory over alcoholism, there is a whole new way of life available to you in AA. The keyword is WILLINGNESS.

I have always found that the statement that our drinking was only a symptom was particularly relevant to my experience. I made my first AA meeting 2 months after my last drink. I went because I was afraid that I might want to drink. Abstinence was just plain not enough. I both wanted and need a complete change in my life. Just removing the alcohol left a frightened, shy, angry, repressed, arrogant egomaniac in charge of my life-- if anyone ever needed a clear path to follow, I was him. The painful truth in my life was that I had all those qualities before I ever took the first drink, 23 years before the last one. Therefore I was an alcoholic from birth, at least I think so. It took me 18 years to find booze. My basic character did not change after I drank-- but my behavior sure did.

Recovery, on the other hand, changed my behavior, then went to work on my nature-- treating the alcoholic thinking, the self-serving personality, all of the whole package of myself. This stuff works. I haven't had a psychotic episode in over a decade-- and that is without medication.

Peace


Member: Sheryl
Location: Ga
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 03:26:56

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Evening..

First off.. Jim R.. stop it my sides are busting! Still giggling about the pepper thing.. and you a chef.. LOLOL..would have thought you learned that lesson ages ago..

Zane.. By george, I think you've got it!! Sense of humor I mean.*S Its I rolled reading your post, thanks.

Mary and Sanders, hope things go well with your moms. Sanders, stay on her..They can be stubborn about it, we have to be just as stubborn! Also thanks for clearing up the confusion with Tobie, I received and email about that today and thought I had missed it.

Jrr and Sundance.. ok, now dont make me come over there and seperate you two! *S* jrr, didnt I already send you to your corner once? geez! LOL

Work was cool, and the cravings to drink have eased up, so was a good day today. It's already been said , but what the hay, welcome to all the new people!! Im lousy with names so I will leave that to Jim R. Congrats Deanna on 30 days, way cool. God willng, I will pick mine up on Thursday.

Bed time for this chick.. nite all

Peace


Member: Sheryl
Location:
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 03:32:00

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PS.. ART.. got it just now.. LMAO.. yep it sure does remind me of someone, but it aint you ROTFL


Member: Rhia W
Location: Atlanta
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 03:37:10

Comments

Hi Ya'll, Rhia, alkie/addict & my problem is me....

well, w/the CP havin' an offcial greeter, i reckon i'll just leave my greeting as 'Hi Ya'll'! hehehe...

fair warning, i'm feeling mellow & thoughtful - this post will probably be 1 long 'stream-of-conciousness' rambling... spent the weekend w/my boyz, played LazerTag w/them & my weyrmate - we all had a blast running around in the dark Lazer arena 'shooting' each other w/beams of light (what kid/parent doesn't dream of being able to shoot the other w/no real harm done? hehehe) ... got so involved ducking & dodging that i ended up in an argument w/a wall - the wall won - got a beauty of a battle scar on my nose as proof! LOL ... was good to see my oldest son laugh some, even if it was just for a short while... his Dr appointment is Thursday, may HP give 'em what they need .... i do miss them something fierce everytime i hafta leave 'em....

wanted to join in on the gardening bit, did that for a few yrs - grew flowers that weren't supposed to grow in my neck of the woods - never told the flowers that, so they're Still growing & blooming in my ex's yard... here in this apartment, i don't quite get the chance to do the digging & planting, & getting close to Gaia like that right now - the landlords' kinda frown on it - they seem rather set on having their own folks do that here... hehehe oh well, this too (apartment living) shall pass - in HP's time, not mine... *s

just sittin here tonite back-to-back w/my weyrmate, (each w/a keyboard & monitor in front of us! lol) playing w/the cat, watching the ferrets, & jamming to Depeche Mode's "Clean".... nothing spectacular, just a quiet lil evening at home, & so peacefully content - feeling over-filled w/gratitude for sobriety... never knew how to just "_Be_Here_Now_" before the program, always used to feel inwardly 'pushed' to hafta be moving '~somewhere else~'- mentally & physically... <shakes head bemusedly> i know this will also pass, but i'm enjoying it fully right now - something i could never do before getting sober... THIS is the feeling i was Always looking for while 'out there' drinkin & druggin & could never ~quite~ grab ahold of - & the longer i drank, the further away it got... I Love this program, & the life it helped me find/build.... it honestly Does work if u work it... *s

Serenity & Sanity

rhiannen@gw.total-web.net

(ps - what time & where ya wanna meet up for a meeting, Kitty Kat? *s)


Member: lynn
Location: florida
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 04:28:26

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hi Lynn an alcholic, hey to all my new friends thanks for being out there for me even though i use the net at work shhh noone tell on me we can use it on our breaks anyhow life is better for me now that I listen to Brian,the guy and Tammy I know i have a long way to go one day at a time i just wish i had more time to read what everone has to say only can do so much in 20 mins must go chat at you all tommorow


Member: karen B.
Location: Tucson, AZ
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 05:54:53

Comments

Good stuff! I too will defer to JIM R. for the greetings. I told you that the pics of you and Jrr are both cute, but these bull-headed types never know how to take a compliment. LOL! SAM S.- boy oh boy, did I ever need to hear that about the self-honesty. I've gotten there, just haven't taken the time to develop a better relation with the HP. I'm ashamed to say, it didn't occur to me as a prerequisite to having better relationships in my life. I honestly think I forgot this SAM! For me, everything about this disease - I have to keep re-learning. It's weird, but you really make a world of sense to me.Thanks for the wisdom!


Member: Karen B.
Location: Tucson, AZ
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 06:01:48

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Sorry PIRRE! Please see Kerry's post further up for the other site. It's also fun. I just stumble along on that site, but everybody helps you out. Isn't that, like the rest of you say, way cool?


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 06:31:21

Comments

Good morning all.

Just popped in for a minute to say "hey". Hope you all have a wonderful sober day.

Love and hugs to all..........


Member: Jacqueline Mc
Location: NZ
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 08:10:36

Comments

Hi all, Jacqueline Mc - alcoholic here. Wow! So many newcomers... glad you're here!

Hey lil' Stevie... you did make it here after all?!?!?! Wow, how many of your posts have I missed? I'm so happy for you... I cried happy tears! You better e-mail me boy!

Wow, Karen B... You just know that 'Nicole Kidman' comment went straight to my head, eh? Ha ha! You 'decorate' the truth there... but I'm purring over the complimant anyway! T.Y!

Danny F... Nice to know I was missed! Makes me feel all warm 'n' fuzzy! I'm back now!

Well, for those that haven't forgotten me... I've been spending a little time with the family of Fflur, the friend of mine that recently died after a slip (only 22 years old, solo mother). I'm feeling a lot better about things and just want to thank everyone here who gave prayers and condolences just when I needed that support the most. It meant more than you know.

Well, Riona is 6 weeks old tomorrow (that'll be today by the time most of you read this though!) and is doing great! I just got some more pictures developed, so if anyone wants to see some with SMILES... L.M.K!

Greatful that the C.P. is still here, oh, and David B... I'm on my way over to check this 'mulitiple posts allowed' spot I've been reading about now... not that I have time to go breaking rules these days anyway! Ha ha!

To those I owe e-mails to: They're coming... honest! (Danny, you're right up on that list... promise!)

Another happy sober 24 please God!

Jac Mc. jacsprat@clear.net.nz


Member: tom t
Location: tenn
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 08:25:07

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tom,alcoholic,etc., Grey,wet,cold,a.m.,but the snow backed off and went north where it belongs. I know, thats not funny to you folks up there! KEN,good to hear from you,drop by more often. RHIA,tell us more about those ferrets,amazing little animals.They remind me of DALE,never stay put in one spot for more than a second.LOL Later,LOVE TO ALL


Member: Herman B
Location: West  Michigan
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 08:33:48

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Hello Everybody I'm Herman B. A Recovering Alcoholic

I just want to thank everyone who took the time to send me an e-mail, the responce was over welming, and I really apreaceate all the url's and different places that I can go concerning AA and cronic pain and recovery in general. I want to apoligize to who ever I might have offened with my previous posts. And sence I have been invited back by so many of you I have decided to swallow my pride, it gets me into to much trouble anyway. I was away sense last friday or I would have posted this sooner. I took a mini vacaation to go back where I first got sober, and to celebrate my 12 year in sobriety, all due to people like you who care and share the program, at times I have to go back and rethink my actions as sometimes I really screw up. Even with all the time I have acumulated it is still one day at a time and if I forget that then I'm in serious trouble, as I'm homebound I can't get too as many f t f meeting as I would like to and sometimes I find myself building a resentment over it, But I have to remind myself that I can only do so much and have to let go and let God, cause when I take control it never works. So thanks for letting me share

Herman B. soslo@prodigy.net


Member: Treasurer
Location: PA
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 08:53:31

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One way that I can show gratitiude, is by putting some money in the basket. This group practices the 7th tradition " Every group should be self supporting, declining outside contributions..." So this is the cyber way to pass the basket and ask anyone attending to send by mail, a contribution to:

Staying Cyber P.O.Box 392 Minisink Hills , Penna. 18341

I try to send something once a year, usually around my anniversay time. I suggest $2.00 for each year sober , if you can afford it. Of course anything will help offset the cost of the server, host, and webmaster. Any extra dollars are sent directly to NY, General Service Office.

Thanks-

 


Member: Raegan
Location: Missouri
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 08:59:09

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For Larry in Virginia Beach and Linda M. in California: Good Grief!!!! If I had known that my "personal" comments were going to upset anyone I probably wouldn't have posted. First of all, when i was talking about mind altering drugs, I really was referring to the "pot" in question by the newcomer to AA. When I was talking about the Prozac etc, I was referring to me. When I came into the program, I was taking 9 different medications, and was in the ER at least once a month for Nubain shots for my migraines. Now that I am clean and sober, I attempted to go off of these medications with my Dr. concent of course, and I only take birth control now. I was able to quit these medications with no after affects!! I know that people have certain diagnosis that require them to take medication and by no means did I mean to put them down, I was just sharing my story. When the tradition talks about "mind altering drugs" I don't feel that pertains to medication. I see that grouped under either alcohol or drugs. If we try to analyze this disease we would go nuts. Addiction is addiction is addiction. Also, Larry, you mentioned that talking about drugs were outside issues and should not be brought into AA? This really confuses me because I have read numerous posts from people who call themselves Alcoholics and Addicts. If we look aroung the world right now, there is a 12 step program for just about everything, hell, there will probably be one for people addicted to the internet before too long!!! Ha Ha Anyway, I am sorry for any confusion that I may have caused, but I do think that both Larry and Linda could benefit from "letting things go" and Let's have fun!!!! Even if my sharing does not help another, it helps me, and at times this is a selfish program. P.S. I have been to AA groups where there is such a strictness to it most of the members were old men, so I do understand if some people have to work a program like that, I am just grateful that I can more open in mine. Peace......


Member: Deanna
Location: Texas
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 09:41:18

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Good morning all! Deanna here and I am an alcoholic.

I got my first chip last night. It is awesome. Someone said they were 55 days and didn't have one. The group I attend ends the meetings with this presentation. Maybe you should ask whomever runs your meetings.

I like this new thing called "sobriety". I love handing my life over to my HP. He has already given me what he said he would and I am the better for it. I am to page 165 in the BB but think I will go back and read the first 164 again.

I just want to say Thank You God for this site and the people here. I need them and all their experiences. Thanks for letting me share.

God grant me another 24.

Deanna


Member: Pierre S.
Location: Grapevine Tx
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 09:51:08

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I'm an Alcoholic and my name is Pierre . Thanks for the welcome, Jim. I'm not really new here but am not a daily poster.

Dale, I checked out Dave's board and will not be posting there. It looks to me as though there is too much information I need to provide before I can post and I'm just not willing to provide all that from my work computer ( I don't have one at home ).

I'll just stick around here. Have been posting on the 12 X 12 & Discussion Meeting lately and It's been good for me .

I do miss some you the folks who have "moved on" to the "Bimini" site . Haven't heard from my friend Glen since we met for coffee & a Meeting. Are you still around the CP Glen ?

Love and prayers to all.


Member: Lilly C.
Location: Alaska
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 09:53:52

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Good morning friends....Tom T., thanks for askin, my little boy is doing great and for that I am very thankful. Just a comment on drugs, i.e. pot or whatever, there really is no chemical solution to a spiritual problem. When I first came to the C.P. it was just as hard to quit smoking pot as it was to quit drinking. But as my drinking slowed I noticed my "serenity" slipped alot if I got high. It disconnected me from myself and my slow recovery. My emotional chaos only increased. This may not be true for all, only my personal experience. Peace, Lilly


Member: Kim
Location: Florida
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 09:58:18

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Goodmorning to All at the CP, Kim D Alcoholic/Addict here.

Kerry, thanks for posting that link to pic page. What fun to see everyone!!A good looking bunch from the inside and out. I try to dig up a good picture of myself (could take a while) and get it to the page. Kerry the weather here is "enviable", but let talk again in the summer! I'll be wishing I was in your place. Anyway, Spring just around the corner for most of you.

Tom T. I been knee deep in cow manure since last month. You gotta add a lot of dirt to all this sand down here. Guess I'm on the right track though. I just moved to Florida in Dec 1997, I'm for Tennessee!!!!! Originally, Memphis, but more recently in Nashville. I'd give $100 just to see a dog from Tennessee right now as I am terribly homesick. So it very good to read you.

Corinne I would love to get to a meeting with you!!!!I'll email you to work it out. I live about 30miles south of Orlando.

Treasurer Thanks for the post on contribution I was wondering how much to send. It's important to all of us to be self supporting.

Gotta make it short today, my hubby is home for the day! Hope you all have good day. KIM


Member: Corinne B.
Location: CA
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 10:26:43

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'Mornin' ((CPers))! Corinne, Alcoholic here, there & everywhere!

Thanks Teri F & Sam S for your supportive posts and responses to my E-s. My sponsor was right, a few extra prayers do work! Thanks for the amends, Zane.

When I awaken each day, I ask God to direct my thinking, to show me how I can be useful to him, and helpful to others, and to relieve me of the bondage of self. When I close out my day, I thank him for another day sober, and pray for those still suffering spiritually, physically or mentally (all 3 include me *g). In between, I read some, play some, & try to bring joy, love, compassion & understanding into the world. When confused, feeling hurt or dismayed, I call upon my sponsor. She helps me alot - she tells me not to give her the credit - that the credit always goes to God.

Thanks for letting me share. Love & Hugs - Corinne B.


Member: Duke  Jenner
Location: Tempe, Az
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 17:43:37

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Hello Everyone, my name is Duke and I am an MIRACLE, I too am an alcoholic. I am new to the program, I got a little over eight months. I am new to the net I got about four hours. I found this and was amazed it was here. Is that odd or is that GOD. This program is working for me. I am happy today. I don't worry much any more about nothing. I turned it all over to my GOD and he is handling it. I'm just here for the ride. Glad to no you'all are here, God bless and I pass.

Duke Tempe,Az.


Member: Duke  Jenner
Location: Tempe, Az
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 17:44:31

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Hello Everyone, my name is Duke and I am an MIRACLE, I too am an alcoholic. I am new to the program, I got a little over eight months. I am new to the net I got about four hours. I found this and was amazed it was here. Is that odd or is that GOD. This program is working for me. I am happy today. I don't worry much any more about nothing. I turned it all over to my GOD and he is handling it. I'm just here for the ride. Glad to no you'all are here, God bless and I pass.

Duke Tempe,Az.


Member: Jim G.
Location: Maryland
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 17:45:26

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Last nite after a meeting a guy asked me to sponsor him. He just got out of jail where he was in a substsnce abuse program. Please, you all pray that I will keep my head and do what my maker wants of me in this grave responsibility.

In an hour I'll be taking him to tonite's meeting in a nearby town

Jim G.


Member: Story T.
Location: Storybook Land
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 18:02:58

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An old man an his wife lived out their golden years together. After long years of a wonderful loving relationship the old woman quietly died in her sleep one night. The old man grieved at the loss of his friend and partner of over 75 years. The old man would rock on his front porch while family members would try to comfort him. He would not be comforted. He didn't smile or wave as the family member took their departure. A young boy holding his mother's hand broke away and ran up to his grandpa and climbed into his lap and put his arms around him. After awhile the lad climbed down and walked back to his mother. The old man looked up smiled at the young boy and waved. As the mother and the boy walked away the mother asked her son. "What did you say to grandpa" The boy said "Didn't say anything, I just helped him cry."


Member: A  voice
Location: ln the wilderness
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 18:20:23

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What a regular little soap opera you have here. lt has all the classic ingredients. Characters come and characters go. The old stalwarts remain keeping the "pot" boiling, churning out the sickness. lf your still sick enough to enjoy soap operas then keep coming back. As Mulder said to Scully "you must be willing to see". there are none so blind as those who "will" not see. Recover or die!


Member: King   Alcohol
Location: Gehena
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 18:41:14

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remember Riona in your prayers, if Jaqueline mac does'nt make it she probably won't either. And most people do'nt make it, despite the promise on pp 58. l'll get her. Sad but true.


Member: Sam s
Location: Kansas
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 18:49:24

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Hi all! Just wanted to welcome the newcomers and first timers here. Been a monday here for me. Had to hit a noon meeting today as work was rough this morning. Amazing how I can go to a meeting madder than hell and come out an hour later, transformed into a happy somewhat serene person. I love AA and all its people new and old. I can learn from all of you. thank you, I'll take another 24.


Member: LfromHell
Location: SoCal
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 18:52:02

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Hello, CP-ers. I haven't been here in a while and the first thing I notice is that David from Bimini has apparently set up some competing forum, but *no one* mentions the address! Imagine the frustration this alcoholic suffers at wanting to become embroiled in the controversy, but not being able to. So someone please e-mail me the address so that I may get involved in outside issues (I am not AA--I can mess around where I will, as long as I'm prepared to make amends for it).

Hope everyone's doing well. I am.


Member: King  Alcohol
Location: Gehena
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 18:54:51

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Remember little Riona in your prayers, if Jaqueline Mac don't make it, l'll get her, one way or the other. That's a promise. Take heed of the "Word". The Man in the Long Black Coat.


Member: Sanders W
Location: Graceville, Fl.
Date: 10 Mar 1999
Time: 19:27:33

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Hi All Ya'all I am very definately a real alcoholic andmy name is Sanders. All is too quite at myhouse. My grandson ha=s gone homwe and bith Tobie and I miss him very much. Tobiehas been all over looking for him and has a bout decided he has gonew. Wer had a very nice visit even tho it was too short and look forward to the nextg one. This was my daughtrer and my X wife whjop csame up. This widfe is the person who went to hell and back with me and just as I was 1 year DRY I left her because I thought thiswas the only way I could staY sober. It has to have been the dumbest thing I have ever done but I am very grateful for the 20years of marrage wew had together anfd the fact thaty weare very good friends today. Since that is all I can have today, I'll settler for that, but I keep hoping.--------This si the third time I have tried to get a post on thepot today and hope it is OK now. There have been some very good ones on and I have really enjoyed reading them.-----Thisis "hump" day and almost time for church so I'llbe gone shortly but getting ready for oysters tomorrow and back into the groove again. Keep up the good work on the pot and remember God loves you and so do I sanders@wfeca.net