Member: other Tech
Location: Lovers Lane
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 5:08:34 PM

Comments

Congratulations!

Barry L and Cherise D

soon to be Mr and Mrs L !


Member: George M.
Location: Albrightsville, PA
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 8:07:24 PM

Comments

Congratulations Cherise and Barry and God bless.


Member: jim v.
Location: missouri
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 8:31:25 PM

Comments

congratulations barry + cherise may you have many happy 24's


Member: Mary C.
Location: Mantua,NJ
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 10:32:20 PM

Comments

Happy Valentine's Day to everyone!


Member: Ronald L.
Location: visitor inTwain Harte, Ca
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 11:08:10 PM

Comments

Its snowing and looks like a white christmas here in Twain Harte,Ca visiting from Antioch. I am glad this is here because now we got one truck stuck in the snow right off the driveway. I am grateful that I am in recovery and have learn and accepted the step to the best of my ability. Even though I may have a tough time again and again with step one, I do have some tools to help. You and the fellowship helps especially when I try to take it back. I just needed to talk since I can not get to a meeting.


Member: Pat L
Location: Kansas City MO
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 7:52:56 AM

Comments

Hello to all and congrats to the love birds. I hope everyone had a good Valentines day. I treated myself to doing nothing. I mean nothing. I only got out of bed to change channels on the boob tube. I really need a remote. Today, sober and life is good. Job is good. Everything is good. Special Thanks to an angel here, Lorraine. Always says the right stuff. And also Eileen. She finally went to a meeting and it didn't kill her, who'd a thunk it! Keep up the great work. You can't keep your sobriety unless you give it away. Keep giving to me, I love it!


Member: Peter S.
Location: Valley Village, CA
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 3:38:02 PM

Comments

I hope that everyone is well and enjoying the day after Valentine's day! If no one else has told you today...I love you!


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 5:31:36 PM

Comments

With the trend in hyphenated last names, how come AA doesn't have any?

How about Cherise D.-L.? Congratulations, you guys! When is soon, anyway?


Member: don w.
Location: akeley mn.
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 8:27:34 PM

Comments

congrads to the love birds. i am don agreatful recovering alcoholic... been a good day here in northern mn... cloudy and 42 F above .. will be a good day tomorrow ..as i am spiritually fit today.


Member: Randy O
Location: St.Pete,Fl
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 8:56:50 PM

Comments

Just found this place and it's great. Ididn't make a meeting tonight so it was nice to see all the response on the net. So I'll stick around a little tonihgt and listen to ya all . Take care.


Member: Eileen
Location: Pa.
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 9:42:42 PM

Comments

Congrats to Cherise and Barry. May this be the first of many years in which you bring joy to each others lives. God bless. PS. Are you two, along with others, responsible for this web site? Just a word of "thanks". Eileen


Member: Robb W.
Location: Mississauga,Ontario,Canada
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 10:25:21 PM

Comments

Hi everyone! I'm an alcoholic and my name is Robb. Congrats to the soon to be Mr. and Mrs.!! Just got back from a one year birthday. Mildred F. (the flying Nun) spoke. It was great. It's so good to see the miracle of AA at work. Now to go off on a tangent... I met a guy at a meeting this morning who is going to Brazil in May. He has called AA in the Toronto area but they can't give him very much info on AA there. I was wondering if anyone could help me out with some phone numbers etc. I know Brazil is a big country but every bit of help would be greatly appreciated. Wishing everyone another sober 24 hours, Robb W.


Member: Jeff J.
Location: S.W. Iowa
Date: 2/15/98
Time: 11:55:04 PM

Comments

Hi my name is Jeff and i'm an alcoholic. This is great! I've found a meeting and read alot of good coments on patience and tolorance. Fun with new computor.My life has taken so many new dire- ctions in three yrs. Thank God, a sponser,and the books. As Bill Sees It is a favorite to help me pin point where i'm at when I need to work on me which is daily. Glad i'm here syber thats all.


Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 9:41:24 AM

Comments

Hi, Suzanne, alcoholic. Congrats to the happy couple! Welcome to Randy and Jeff, hope you visit often. Glen, I can always count on you to put a smile on my face (the hyphenated comment was a good one). To all have a serene 24!


Member: JERI B
Location: CH CALIF
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 11:35:54 AM

Comments

HI- I FOUND MY WAY HERE FINALLY:-) aaakarma- WANTED TO EMAIL U BACK BUT MANAGED TO ERASE EVERYTHING WHILE CHANGING OVER. PLEASE! TRY ME AGAIN


Member: Rich L.
Location: NE Phila.
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 3:05:21 PM

Comments

Hi,my name is Rich and I am an alcoholic. Could anyone give me some info on a book by Bill W. called Problems other than alcohol.


Member: Barry L
Location: PA
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 4:12:11 PM

Comments

Hi Rich, There is a pamphlet called, (P-35) Problems Other Than Alcohol, You should be able to find it at almost any meeting in the literature rack.

The P-35 is the stock number for ordering from:

A.A. General Service Office

475 Riverside Drive

New York, NY 10015

Phone: 212-870-3400

Fax: 212-870-3003


Member: TJ  K.
Location: N.California
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 5:29:19 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm TJ, alcoholic and trouble maker (to some) Just wanted to check in and say hi! Congrats to the folks getting married; I was married in sobriety and it was wonderful (for awhile) but I let it get before my loving God and program and---well---you know. It's good to be clean and sober today and I can't think where I would rather be on a rainy N.Calif. day than in a meeting! Love 2 all!


Member: kat
Location: ca
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 6:05:29 PM

Comments

HI, NEW TO THE WEB, ENJOY ALL THE THOUGHTS. lOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THOSE 'OTHER ADDICTIONS THAT HAPPEN BESIDES AND AFTER ALCOHOL.


Member: TJ
Location: N. CAl
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 6:17:02 PM

Comments

TJ alcoholic here Hi to kat, lot of things led me to drinking and drinking led me to a lot of things. Lot-o-support everywhere; God makes that possible. We can talk; I'm after another cuppa tea and will be back soon. TJ!


Member: Susie
Location: Ma.
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 7:32:10 PM

Comments

I'm Susie, alcoholic. Have much occasion for gratitude lately. My sister just survived her 4th suicide attempt. Grateful she lived Grateful that I am no longer in her shoes. Am alive by the Grace of God and AA. Life is so precious and worth living!! My sister resists help and I'm afraid she will die. Then again, God broke through my depression from alcoholism and rescued me. I pray that she will be rescued too.


Member: Andy K
Location: Northern Calif
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 8:47:14 PM

Comments

Andy, Alcoholic, my 1st hour of admitting it, I go to detox in the morning..I will need lots of help and support when I get back..

Thank You


Member: TJ
Location: N. Cal
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 8:52:38 PM

Comments

TJ, alcoholic in recovery

Andy! Way to go! I can't speak for others but you have my support! E-mail me at jkolberg@mcn.org and I will be with you my friend! It all starts here, that first day, that first hour and minute, everyday! God gives up that and it took me YEARS to figure that out! God bless you and your new, wonderful journey! With hope and Love

TJ


Member: TJ
Location: N. Cal
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 8:59:25 PM

Comments

TJ alcholic in recovery Andy, I responded but the cyberspace must have "ate" my message. Hang in there brother; you can e-mail me if you want at jkolberg@mcn.org and I will be with you Your journey is just begining, but what a journey it is! I am going to do a "refresher" weekend of soberiety at a place here in N. Cal and hang out with new people. Thank You for sharing Thank you all for letting me! with love TJ


Member: TJ
Location: N. Cal
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 8:59:37 PM

Comments

TJ alcholic in recovery Andy, I responded but the cyberspace must have "ate" my message. Hang in there brother; you can e-mail me if you want at jkolberg@mcn.org and I will be with you Your journey is just begining, but what a journey it is! I am going to do a "refresher" weekend of soberiety at a place here in N. Cal and hang out with new people. Thank You for sharing Thank you all for letting me! with love TJ


Member: Cherise D-L to be!
Location: God's Wonderful World
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 11:40:58 PM

Comments

Andy GREAT DECISION keep it up and you'll have all the support you need when you get out!!!!

Thank you all for the good wishes. Glen great thought. We will be getting married Sept.5,1998. A couple of years ago I could never have imagined the life I have now. By the Grace of God and this fellowship, and all of you all the promises have come true. For all the newcomers here keep coming back and wait for the miracles to happen, I never knew what that meant when people kept telling it to me, but the amount of miracles that have happened to me are beyond my wildest dreams. It really works IF YOU WORK IT!!!!!!!! Love and very special thanks to all of you.


Member: Amanda R.
Location: Trinity, TX
Date: 2/16/98
Time: 11:55:45 PM

Comments

Hello everyone, Amanda here, a grateful recovering alcoholic and drug addict. Cherise, just a comment: my husband and I met in treatment and have 6 years, 4 months and some odd days together and sober. We both have our own understanding of God, our own programs and the opportunity to stay sober together on a daily basis. Good luck and best wishes to you guys.

To Andy: you will probably hear a lot of AA slogans and sayings and if you are willing to listen and learn, they will all begin to make sense and they all will come to mean a lot to you. Take care everyone and remember: Don't drink, Pray and go to meetings.


Member: Susan O
Location: Seattle, Wa.
Date: 2/17/98
Time: 1:46:18 AM

Comments

Hi I'm Susan, I'm an alkie & druggie too. First time on the net- this is my only access to meetings right now; I'm grateful to have you with me during a tough time.'

I remember going to meetings almost every night- now I can!


Member: John K.
Location: Northern California
Date: 2/17/98
Time: 12:20:09 PM

Comments

John K. alcoholic\addict Goodday everyone! Just checking in to the coffee pot and havin' a cuppa. Good stuff in cyberspace already this morning. I chaired a meeting last night totaly by surprise; my first reaction was to decline but I learned not to say no to AA or I may be saying yes to my next drinky poo! Right! I am so grateful this morning my friends; I have found my way through this internet to connect with the man who was my sponsor before he moved back to Mexico! What a gift this is for us all! Have a great day all! With Love and Caring John K.


Member: John K.
Location: Northern California
Date: 2/17/98
Time: 12:20:37 PM

Comments

John K. alcoholic\addict Goodday everyone! Just checking in to the coffee pot and havin' a cuppa. Good stuff in cyberspace already this morning. I chaired a meeting last night totaly by surprise; my first reaction was to decline but I learned not to say no to AA or I may be saying yes to my next drinky poo! Right! I am so grateful this morning my friends; I have found my way through this internet to connect with the man who was my sponsor before he moved back to Mexico! What a gift this is for us all! Have a great day all! With Love and Caring John K.


Member: mark d
Location: las vegas, nv
Date: 2/17/98
Time: 1:33:24 PM

Comments

Robb I have a contact in Rio drop me a line quitkaos@anv.net


Member: Linda M.
Location: Midwest
Date: 2/17/98
Time: 2:12:15 PM

Comments

Hi, everyone!

I have just found this website and am glad I did. I go to several meetings a week, usually in the evenings, but it's good to have this available. Sometimes things at work get a little difficult-this program helps me to cope. Thanks for being here!


Member: jennifer D.
Location: western Pa.
Date: 2/17/98
Time: 7:41:21 PM

Comments

Hello Everybody !!! Nice to be here! Congrats to the soon to be marrieds! I too am married to an AA. We sobered up together on 3/6/82. IT AIN'T ALWAYS EASY!!! Just work your OWN PROGRAMS!!! Ya'll should do fine! :) ANDY K. PLEASE KEEP COMING BACK!!! We need you. More times than not, I learn more from a "new comer" than an "old timer". SOBERITY is the best gift EVER!! You deserve it. KEEP COMING BACK! :) And remeber... ONE DAY AT A TIME.


Member: John Z.
Location: Houston, TX
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 12:30:35 AM

Comments

Hi! John Z. here, recovering alcoholic! Glad to be here. This looks like a GREAT AA group. Glad to see people from all over the country, especially W. PA. I was born and raised there, although I haven't been back in years. I hope I can 'be a part of'!


Member: kay h.
Location: vegreville, alberta can.
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 1:35:04 AM

Comments

hello to everyone out there this is kay from alberta in can. would just like to send my congrts to the happy couple, may you have many years of wedded bliss and the patter of tiny feet?? in the future. also many years of life living SOBER. my husband and I will have 37yrs of marriage this june and it seems like only yesterday, but when our 4 grand-daughters come over it all snaps into place . i" m very happy that we have a home life that has no alchol but serenity. GREAT LIFE THANKS TO A.A.


Member: Robb W.
Location: Mississauga,Ontario,Canada
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 6:15:23 AM

Comments

Hi, Robb, alcoholic. Mark D. I tried to e-mail you but it was returned. Try me at <robbw.erisco@sympatico.ca> Thanks Robb


Member: Gene45
Location: Mt.Bethel Pa
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 8:55:16 AM

Comments

hi, (everyone)Gene,alcoholic here!! First of all congrats to barry&cherise,i wish yas all the best On a sadder note,yesterday i lost a friend who was in recovery.We woke up in the morning and found him dead in the litchen I know he is in gods hands now,and he would want me to keep my head up. Its a little hard right now,we were pretty close,yet i know yet i know i have lots of friends to go to if i need help through it. Ill pray for him,and hope you all would add him to your prayers. Thanks for being here,Loves yas Geme S.


Member: Gene45
Location: Mt.Bethel Pa
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 9:01:21 AM

Comments

hi, (everyone)Gene,alcoholic here!! First of all congrats to barry&cherise,i wish yas all the best On a sadder note,yesterday i lost a friend who was in recovery.We woke up in the morning and found him dead in the litchen I know he is in gods hands now,and he would want me to keep my head up. Its a little hard right now,we were pretty close,yet i know yet i know i have lots of friends to go to if i need help through it. Ill pray for him,and hope you all would add him to your prayers. Thanks for being here,Loves yas Geme S.


Member: Eileen
Location: Pa.
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 9:21:08 AM

Comments

Hi Gene. Just wanted you to know you and your friend will be in my prayers.God bless. Eileen


Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo, NY
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 9:29:12 AM

Comments

Fran P alkie,

Congratulations to the happy couple. I pray you have many years of wedded bliss.

Could anyone tell me, what makes you want to be someone's friend? How do you make a connection to other people? I go to meetings regularly and talk to newbies and old-timers alike and give my phone number out but don't seem to get much response. Any suggestions? Guess I could use some of the patience and tolerance they're discussing over at the meeting.


Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo, NY
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 9:39:22 AM

Comments

Fran P. alkie here.

Congratulations to the new couple. Pray you are very happy. Andy, hope you come back and hang in there. It gets better.

Question: I know this kind of pathetic but how do you make a connection with other people. What makes you want to be their friend? I've gone to meetings regularly for over a year, take to newcomers and oldtimers, given my phone number to newcomers, made coffee, stayed late at meetings etc. but really have developed no close relationships. Guess I need some of the patience and tolerance that is being discussed over there in the meeting.


Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo, NY
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 9:41:22 AM

Comments

Sorry about the two submissions.


Member: Tony G.
Location: Pequannock N.J.
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 11:49:37 AM

Comments

Hi gang Tony G. alcoholic. Does anyone know where I could get some De-Caf (hahahahaha). Love the meeting but had other thought Percolating(percalating?) in my head and want to get out. Went to step meeting in the rain and a guy talked about his sponsee. The guy he described sounded JUST like me. The sponsee could not seem to get honest about his program and as a result can not get more than two weeks together befor going out again. Thats me in a nutshell and it just shows yet again I am not unigue(?). On a lighter note IF you folks from Calli see a guy building a really big boat and a bunch of animals waiting outside, RUN for the hills. Your friend, Tony G.


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 12:10:34 PM

Comments

Fran, that's not pathetic at all. In fact, I don't think we talk about life outside of AA enough.

When I got sober, I realized that I didn't really have any idea of what I liked to do. Example: I thought fishing was fun, but what I really liked was sitting on the bank and drinking. When I got sober and actually started using bait and catching the damn things, I didn't enjoy it so much.

Go out with any group you can find after the meeting, and try something different. It's easier to learn how to have sober friendships in groups, which is exactly what we all need to learn. If nobody is going anywhere, get some people together yourself and go to dinner or a movie. And remember, you've got some time now - you don't have to limit your friends to AA unless you just want to. Personally, I don't care to; we tend towards being pretty one dimensional anyway.

I recently joined the local chapter of the Sierra Club just for this reason; they do something every week - canoe trips, hikes, etc. Just don't ever forget your sobriety.

PS Just a thought - Maybe Cherise will tell us about how they met ?


Member: George B.
Location: N.W. Ohio
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 4:13:20 PM

Comments

Just wanted to say how very nice it is to unexpectedly hear from a special friend in sobriety. A super sober day to all !


Member: Alice D.
Location: Greene County, PA
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 5:05:39 PM

Comments

To Fran -- Just a thought -- you've been giving your number out, but have you been calling others? At first it was real hard for me to pick up the phone and also to consider women as friends. Now my life is really full of women in the program and I have so much fun hanging out with them. But, I had to make the first moves and it was uncomfortable for awhile so I had to fake it until I made it and it was worth every uncomfortable moment!


Member: Gracie S.
Location: N. W. Ohio
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 6:40:24 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, I'm Gracie and I'm an alcoholic and an addict. I have been sober for eleven years now and I can't say I've had a rougher time than right now. It's my own fault. I've done all the typical things. Slacked off of my meetings. Isolated myself from A.A. people, stopped reading the Big Book and my daily meditations, you know the story.... My mental state is back where I was when I first got sober, very shaky. I haven't drank or used!! Thank the good Lord for that, and I do. I've returned to meetings, started to read again and I am praying, now I need to start listening once again. This is my first time visiting this spot. I hope to be back again, soon. Say goodnight, Gracie.


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 6:52:19 PM

Comments

Gracie, how have you done with the steps? Going to meetings, reading, and praying is great stuff allright, but the program is really the twelve steps.


Member: Kerry B.
Location: Idaho
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 7:39:59 PM

Comments

Kerry, alcoholic. Gracie, thanks for your honesty. Been there, done that!!! Glad you found this page, and glad you are picking up the book again. I won't pick on you, after all, how would I know why your where your at. You said it yourself. I'm just glad your still with the program. Sober. My experience tell's me that you will get thru this, if you do what you say you are doing now. KCB


Member: John Z.
Location: Houston, TX
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 8:44:34 PM

Comments

Gracie, I'm glad you are here!


Member: barbara m.
Location: toledo, ohio
Date: 2/18/98
Time: 8:44:46 PM

Comments

Grace: So very glad to hear that you are "getting back to basics!" Do not feel too bad as I got "way off track" with 20+ years of sobriety (depression): but with my continuous sobriety, I can (like you) begin again. I am lucky. I got off track by NOT TAKING CARE OF ME (let work, etc get in the way). Please take care. barbara


Member: jake b.
Location: Springfield,VA
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 1:12:14 AM

Comments

hey can anyone tell me on what page the bit about contempt prior to investigations is?


Member: Kat
Location: CA
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 11:37:14 AM

Comments

Hi Gracie and others Kat in ca. Could use an e mail female friend to correspond with, is this possible to find through this chat room, what do I do? Mom of two, struggle with addiction at times. Sober 12 years. Any Knowlege on how to connect on a more regular basis with a couple of women in program with some of same issues with some time? Thanks


Member: John K.
Location: Northern California
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 11:55:21 AM

Comments

John K. here, alcoholic\addict Having a cuppa away from the meeting and checkin' into the coffee pot. I read a little of what some of what was writen yesterday about looking for contacts\friends. I don't know Fran, I just don't know! I've been in AA for years and they kind of come and go--you know? I've been married in sobriety and that fell through and I became very disillousioned (?) at the whole thing. My sponsor told me once that we only need be available, stay avalible, and God will bring the people we need into our lives. Huh? I don't know my dear. I'm an artist, I go to two or three meetings a week and I still find myself more comfortable at my easel with my dogs and this computer. Oh well, I hope this is good for someone---it's good for me to put it out there. I need to check my mail now---God bless you all, hang with God, I am! John K.


Member: Tony G.
Location: Pequannock N. J.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 12:39:17 PM

Comments

Hi gang, tony g. alcoholic. Just checking in and having some coffee. Thanks Fran I needed to see some people feel like me and had the same problems. I have a bad case of unigueness, I'm NOT LIKE YOU! Ha am I wrong. Every time I feel that way someone comes along and says what I think, feel, or had done. BOY does that make it hard then to be unigue. Like you at these times I must get to the basics of our program to see and hear what I need. Boy do I feel alot better, did not Know I felt bad. Happily Yours Tony G.


Member: John K.
Location: Northern Calif.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 12:55:23 PM

Comments

John K. grateful alcoholic\addict! To Tony G. Thank You! I had forgotten just how unigue I believe myself to be! Wow, I needed to hear that this morning! Bless you all: John K. just a garden veriety drunk in sobriety!


Member: George M.
Location: Lost in middle America
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 2:04:43 PM

Comments

Great to read the thoughts of friends both old and new here at the Coffee Pot. It just struck me that here you can truly be annoyomous..even moreso than at regular face to face meetings ! To Gracie S.: Glad you found your way here. Ain't God somethin? Sometimes He may even use *#%!&*# computers to help us in sobriety. Today I believe their is a HP and that he works thru people...wonderful people. Now back to my work on honesty in relationships....


Member: Monica L.
Location: Washington, D.C.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 2:14:25 PM

Comments

Can anybody here help me with honesty?


Member: John K.
Location: Wetlands, N. Calif.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 2:51:57 PM

Comments

John K. grateful acoholic\addict to Monica L. I am without a doubt the most dishonest person I KNOW! Which means that I am being as honest as I can be right now. My sponsor tells me to read pg. 449 when I am feeling like kind of bound up and question things. Acceptance is the key! So that's where I go and then I get to a LIVE MEETING and that's where I am going tonight! Bless you, thanks for letting me share all of you! John K.


Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo, NY
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 2:55:05 PM

Comments

To Monica,

Thanks for your sincere question. It gave me the biggest laugh I'd had in a long time.

Gracie,

Hang in there. You taught me the value of sticking with the basics.


Member: Gracie S.
Location: ohio
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 4:30:12 PM

Comments

Hi guys, It's me Gracie. Thanks for all your love and comments. I don't know who said it, but it slapped me in the face. I go to step meetings, but duh, what about practicing them? step one and two faithfully. I get into trouble when I try to run my own life and the others around me. I'm planning on going to a meeting tonight, if I don't have any teenager meltdowns. Four children are a bit much stress. I know this too shall pass. I've forgotten the love and the helping hands A.A.'s have to offer, and it seems they're always outstretched. God help me to remember to do the same!!!!!! (goosebumps) This place is fantastic and uplifting. in sobriety, gracie.


Member: Alice L
Location: central Iowa
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 6:26:37 PM

Comments

congrats to the couple!! Am very glad to have found this site, and look forward to coming back. By the way I am Alice, alcoholic.


Member: GERRY H
Location: DERRY IRELAND
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 7:23:18 PM

Comments

REALLY ENJOYED ALL THE COMMENTS MADE ARE THERE ANY ALKS OUTSIDE USA WHO USE THIS WONDERFUL SERVICE


Member: Sherry G.
Location: wichita, Ks.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 7:33:35 PM

Comments

sherry g. here alcoholic. thanks for all the comments. keep coming back it WORKS.


Member:   Chuck S.
Location: Clarksburg WV.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 7:34:10 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Chuck S. recovering alcoholic and addict. This is my first time online. First things first,"CONGRATS" to Barry and Cherise. I noticed this page was updated on 2/8/98 that's my smack baby birthday.I spent it with my sons, which was a gift of recovery. 2 months ago they wouldn't speak to me.So YES I'm very grateful to the program and the support of the fellowship! I've been "around" the program for some time,just not in it.Till now. I don't have alot however,it's what I"ve got,and that's more then I had. Right? To jake b. the line" contempt prior to investagation" is on page570 at the end of SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE. May I suggest you read this appendix. I can't get to alot of meetings at present,however this has been a meeting of sorts, right? Anyway I'm outa here for now and will stop in again later.

THANKS FOR THE SPACE!!!!


Member:   Chuck S.
Location: Clarksburg WV.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 7:35:09 PM

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Hi I'm Chuck S. recovering alcoholic and addict. This is my first time online. First things first,"CONGRATS" to Barry and Cherise. I noticed this page was updated on 2/8/98 that's my smack baby birthday.I spent it with my sons, which was a gift of recovery. 2 months ago they wouldn't speak to me.So YES I'm very grateful to the program and the support of the fellowship! I've been "around" the program for some time,just not in it.Till now. I don't have alot however,it's what I"ve got,and that's more then I had. Right? To jake b. the line" contempt prior to investagation" is on page570 at the end of SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE. May I suggest you read this appendix. I can't get to alot of meetings at present,however this has been a meeting of sorts, right? Anyway I'm outa here for now and will stop in again later.

THANKS FOR THE SPACE!!!!


Member: John M.K.
Location: Calif.
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 8:14:03 PM

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Hi, my name is John M.K. I'm a alcoholic\addict who has recently relapsed (again) on drugs; I'm not one of those who beleive that there is a difference. Sober is sober. I am having a terrible time not getting loaded today! I have a week off of work and I'm just spinning; I got loaded two days ago and was sick for two days---fun! I don't know what to do anymore; I don't know who to turn to except God and right now I feel so very far away from (him it? whatever). I don't know what to do anymore except keep going to meetings even though I feel awful there. I'm so scared these days.


Member: larryk
Location: Western Ky
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 9:28:50 PM

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Larry K acoholic, 1st time here but glad I found your site Hang in there John I know how you feel but it does work if nothing happens to you to prevent you from coming back.


Member: Robb W.
Location: Mississauga,Ontario Canada
Date: 2/19/98
Time: 11:25:15 PM

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Hi Robb, alcoholic. Kat, check with the group treasurer for a name or two to converse with via e-mail.

So glad this page is here. Went to two meetings last night and to my service meeting tonight and I feel real good. I consider this my third meeting because it's always there with some

G ood

O rderly

D irection!!

Thanks for letting me share. Wishing you all another 24 sober hours... Robb


Member: John M.K.
Location: Northern Calif.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 12:43:05 AM

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John M.K. alcoholic\addict I just got back from a 8PM meeting and watched a man pick up 18 years---wow. I guess I'm doing okay and I'll keep coming back---here and to the other meetings. Thank you Larry K. interesting, I used to have a sponsee named Larry K. But were in soggy N.Cal and it's not getting any drier here; in fact, were due for a new storm soon. For this I am grateful I have this computer and these on line meetings. Bless you and thanks for letting me share John M.K. Goodnight.


Member: John M.K.
Location: Northern Calif.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 12:44:47 AM

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John M.K. alcoholic\addict I just got back from a 8PM meeting and watched a man pick up 18 years---wow. I guess I'm doing okay and I'll keep coming back---here and to the other meetings. Thank you Larry K. interesting, I used to have a sponsee named Larry K. But were in soggy N.Cal and it's not getting any drier here; in fact, were due for a new storm soon. For this I am grateful I have this computer and these on line meetings. Bless you and thanks for letting me share John M.K. Goodnight.


Member: Chuck S.
Location: Clarksburg WV
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 2:15:06 AM

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HI everyone' I need help, as I said before, I'm new at this. I'm trying to find a chat room for recovering drunks like myself. Every avenue I've tried has been a dead end,so instead of doing it alone and getting thourghly confused, I decided to ask for some help..any at all will be appreciated.

Thanks For The SPACE!!!!


Member: John M.K.
Location: N. Calif.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 2:37:01 AM

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John M.K. alcoholic\addict Still there Chuck? Help is here and I've found it for myself Cant'sleep; so much going through my mind. I miss my son. I'm only a few days clean but I made it through today! thank you JMK


Member: John M.K.
Location: N. Calif.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 8:05:08 AM

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John M.K. alcoholic\addict. Goodmorning at the coffee pot and I hope someone is awake with me this morning. Three days without any mood and mind altering substances---no sleep but that's cool. I'll be in and outta here all day so please share your fellowship; I will be enjoying it. Bless all JMK


Member: Chuck S.
Location: NthCntrl WV
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 8:49:22 AM

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Chuck S alcoholic/addict.Good morning everyone! Hang in there John MK.They tell me it's simple to stay clean,they -didn't say easy. I'm just grateful not to be climbing the walls TODAY! It's raining and cold here in the east this morn- ing.I see on TODAY [show]that you will be getting more rain today.Like you really need it! I'm outa here for now,need more coffee.will drop in later this AM. Remember JMK you're not alone in this!!!

Thanks For The SPACE


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 9:31:18 AM

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Monica, honesty for me any more really means what someone else thinks. I have proven over and over that I'm capable of rationalizing anything, not only in sobriety but especially in sobriety.

The phrase "as honest as I can be" is really a cop out because what is really meant is "as honest as I am willing to be."

Get someone who really knows you, and who loves you enough to tell you the truth, and ask them to be honest about with you about you. AA is a really good place to do that, if you can "swallow some huge chunks of truth about yourself."


Member: jennifer D.
Location: Western Pa.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 9:56:41 AM

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Jennifer, alkie. To JMK...It's really great to have you & Chuck here too! JMK, there is an AA saying that I learned in Little Rock, Ark. a while back ...it's HALT. Don't get too HUNGRY- too ANGRY- too LONELY- or too TIRED. So get some SLEEP!!! I'am so glad you're going to meetings and coming here. I guess you're feeling a bit "charged-up" and all; but you need rest too. Just try to let go and let your HP. Easier said than done. Also use the Scerinity(SP?) prayer. That helps me. I'am having trouble letting go of a situation today. I have 2 teens; and there has been a rumor going around the Jr. High & Sr. High that I said something that I DID'NT!!! I'am most likly making it out to be a bigger deal than it is. I just wish my kids peace. I'am trying to let go of it; but I keep taking the problem back into my own hands! I can "talk the talk;" but can't seem to "walk the walk." Why am I still such an alcoholic?!? John Z. from TX., W.Pa. says HELLO! It's raining here again. The trees are starting to bud, which is about 1-2 months early. El Nino. I hope it goes away soon. Keep coming back. :)


Member: Cherise D.
Location: PA
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 10:49:46 AM

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Kat

You can e-mail me at Secretary@stayingcyber and I will set you up with an online sponsor or just a female contact. Thanks, Cherise


Member: ShelleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 1:06:51 PM

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ShelleI, alcoholic back again. I have been dropping in every day and reading comments and learning from all of you. Megan, thanks for putting into words, and all in one place, so many of the questions a lot of us new people have been struggling with. I agree with the comment that if we are asking if we have a problem, then we probably are. I have 3 children older than you and wish I had asked the questions sooner. When it hit me that I HAD to get my life back from the wine bottle was three weeks after Christmas when we found out that our son-in-law, who had NO clue anything was wrong, was diagnosed with terminal cancer, at best 3-6 months to live. I knew immediately that there would be a lot of people depending on me and I had to be totally present for them. He has 2 little daughters, ages 5 and 7 who are going to need a lot of loving help, as well as our daughter. The other thing that struck me was that we need to live one day at a time, but have no guarantees for tomorrow. David is only 38 years old, had a great job and future and within a matter of a week everything fell apart for him and his family. No more wasted moments for me. I can have a great time without alcohol, and remember it, and the people who really matter in my life will support me. To heck with everyone else. They are not worth giving up my life for. I will be thinking about you, you have your whole future ahead, with the ability to make any decision to do anything you want with it. I hope you choose a partnership with your higher power in a positive, constructive, happy independent life and live each moment to its fullest.


Member: ML
Location: DC
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 1:19:18 PM

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To FP in BNY: The devil (Even in sobriety) made me do it. You're pretty smart! Enjoy your 24 hrs.


Member: JFM
Location: The Church Basement
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 1:27:21 PM

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Gracie: I wish you a weekend of serenity. You are always on my mind...


Member: Patrick L.
Location: Providence, RI
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 2:07:49 PM

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Hi All:

I'm new here, and I posted to the meeting. I saw the request for only one post per week, and was wondering if there was any talk of a forum. Not a chat room, but more like the meeting, allowing multiple posts during the week.

If there are any out there, I would appreciate the URLs. Thanks, and keep coming!


Member: Mike M
Location: Paradise,NC
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 2:15:29 PM

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Mike M greatful recovering alcoholic. Monica on honesty I'm reminded of a girl at a meeting years ago who said"Before I got sober I used to steal $20 every day out of the cash register...but now that I've been sober 6 months thanks to this program I now only take $5 out of the register." Progress Baby not perfection.Rigorous Honesty implies the EFFORT to be honest.Step 6 & 7 and 10 are of great help. If you haven't done 4 & 5, get a pen & paper, a sponsor and a Big Book and go to it. God loves you.


Member: ShelleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 2:25:07 PM

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ShelleI, alcoholic back again. I have been dropping in every day and reading comments and learning from all of you. Megan, thanks for putting into words, and all in one place, so many of the questions a lot of us new people have been struggling with. I agree with the comment that if we are asking if we have a problem, then we probably are. I have 3 children older than you and wish I had asked the questions sooner. When it hit me that I HAD to get my life back from the wine bottle was three weeks after Christmas when we found out that our son-in-law, who had NO clue anything was wrong, was diagnosed with terminal cancer, at best 3-6 months to live. I knew immediately that there would be a lot of people depending on me and I had to be totally present for them. He has 2 little daughters, ages 5 and 7 who are going to need a lot of loving help, as well as our daughter. The other thing that struck me was that we need to live one day at a time, but have no guarantees for tomorrow. David is only 38 years old, had a great job and future and within a matter of a week everything fell apart for him and his family. No more wasted moments for me. I can have a great time without alcohol, and remember it, and the people who really matter in my life will support me. To heck with everyone else. They are not worth giving up my life for. I will be thinking about you, you have your whole future ahead, with the ability to make any decision to do anything you want with it. I hope you choose a partnership with your higher power in a positive, constructive, happy independent life and live each moment to its fullest.


Member: John M.K.
Location: N. Calif.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 5:14:04 PM

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John M.K. alocholic\addict. Good to be back on line Im going crazy---stir crazy sitting here in this room with the rains coming back at us. Thank You for all your comments and encouragements; I truly appreciate it all! I will check back in here from time to time. Yes, I know about HALT and I have gotten some sleep, eaten a sandwitch, Lonely? well, I'm here and I will go to a meeting tonight. Angry? Yeah, lot of anger at my former wife for "controling" my visitations with my son---again. Oh well, I'll try and remember who's in charge and it ain't me! Bless you all JMK


Member: Jim
Location: Lebanon Pa.
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 8:02:33 PM

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Monica L. If you're still checking in on this page, I can tell you a little bit about honesty. It is the hardest aspect of recovery for me. I wasn't too honest most of my life. I am not talking about lieing to other people,here ,I'm talking about lieing to myself. Most of my adult life I lived a life of fantasy. My life was that of a wanna-be.I wanted to be someone else. I wanted to live some one elses life. I was never content with who I was. I didn't know who I was! When I drank, I could be anybody I wanted. And I would lie to myself, (and anyone else in my life), and be in this fantasy land! Where I worked, I believed I was the boss. Or owner. Or C.E.O.. At home I was Ward Cleaver. I was the Father of the year. I was Community Leader of the Year. I was all that and more. And I believed it heart and soul. I lied so much to myself, I couldn't tell the truth from a lie. In recovery a little over 2 years now and I still have a realality check almost daily to be sure I know my motives, games,selfishness,ect..And THE only way for me to stay honest is to (trust) in my H.P. and ONE other human being, just what it is I am doing or thinking. My H.P. will tell my heart what's right and my sponsor will let my head know. It was hard at first,but it did get easier. If I can't be honest with myself, I know I won't be honest with anyone else. It takes patience and time , but well worth it. No more hiding, cheating, running . Great stuff,this recovery business. Hope it helped you. It did me. Thanks for letting me share!


Member: Gracie S.
Location: oh
Date: 2/20/98
Time: 8:25:31 PM

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John M.K., It gets better!! That's what they told me, but being impatient, I wanted five years of serenity in six weeks. Ask for phone numbers of members while you're at a meeting and use them. Your main purpose right now is to stay sober and clean so you will get better. Everything will fall into place if you do the things you're supposed to do. You're useless to your son if you're loaded. Open up at meetings and let them know about yourself and that you need and want help. I bet you get it. I've been there and done that. It's an awful feeling not being there and comfortable with yourself. It's part of the disease. Tie a knot in the end of your rope and hang on!!!!! gracie


Member: John R
Location: sunny Buffalo,NY
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 2:01:34 AM

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well I read your postings and I think I'll be back ... what about those URL s for sober chat rooms? I could use one being a chef and working weird hours and not wanting to hang out after the shift...if you know what I mean.. all you newcomers and retreads I'm here to tell you the toughest thing about early sobriety is:are you ready for this??EARLY SOBRIETY and guess what? we all did it so stop the b.s. and get busy...join the home group,get the sponsor read the Book,etc.,etc. In other words stop making excuses and grow up... And just in you new people who call yourselves all these dual titles...guess what?

Relapse or whatever cute name you call picking up a drink or whatever it is you flee from reality with IS NOT A REQUIREMENT stay sober and be grateful today...


Member: Lori  P-J
Location: Beautiful Seattle, WA
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 3:49:22 AM

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Lori, Alcoholic/Addict.

John, I know about working weird hours. I work in the computer business and sometimes I put in from 12-18 hour days. Sometimes I just need to hear things after all of my A.A. friends are in La La land.

I'm so glad to be sober today and I know that partialy this was achieved one day at a time. The biggest thank goes to my HP.

One thing I always like to remember when I'm struggling is a little phrase that someone in my first meeting said to me,"KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID." It always applies.

I'm very grateful to be alive and sober for today.

Lori :-)


Member: Joel H
Location: South East Asia
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 4:41:43 AM

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Firstly congrats to the newly weds, wishes for happily ever afters. Hi to all, I'm joel (residing in Asia for the past 3 years). It's only by the grace of God and you people that I'm not dead long ago. I've been without a meeting for these 3 years. Thank God I'm not drunk now, i am sure of one thing it's through no real action on my part in these past years. I'm feeling exactly as i did on my 6 month sob. date. I've finally found you here, there are no meeting on the east coast of Malaysia. I just came from the current meeting and i must say (sorry for differing from subject matter a bit). I'll ask the same question to you guys and gals. Have any of you seen or heard of the whereabouts of my over 21 year sober sponser, Fred M? He may be in Ark. or Louisiana. I lost touch with him shortly before i left the US. He had to move, and i left b4 he got me his contact numbers. Appreciate if ya'll could let me know if he frequents any of your meetings so i can give you my numbers or e mail to pass to him. I'd be 4ever greatfull. In my infenite desire to control everything in my life, (I'd almost forgot how nearly dead this gets me. I've been trying to keep things going my way at work, and blaming my lack of success for my feelings of helplessness. I've been on a dry drunk for 3 years, thank GOD i've found you, and thank GOD and AA for being the tollerating lot that ya'll are.

Thanks, and God be with you.


Member: Joel H
Location: South East Asia
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 5:04:29 AM

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Joel Alk/Druggie,

John MK. Hang in there, you only have obstain for 24 hours. Get to the nearest meeting, Call someone before you use. or e mail me @ billy_campbell@hotmail.com don't forget the _ between the first and last name.

This is my first day second post, thanks to all of you for being here for those of us working abroad. i feel very smart/proud of myself that it only took me three years to think of looking for you hear. I've been having a dry drunk for some time.

Thanks again (God and AA)


Member: Bonnie C
Location: Seattle area
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 5:57:03 AM

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Hi extended family - My name is Bonnie and I'm an alcoholic - (((((((ROOM-HUG))))))) Hugs to all that are hurting, welcome to those who are here for the first time, welcome back to those who are here again, let us love you till you can love yourself. what a wonderful life I lead today, for yrs in sobriety I would only get glimpses of the joy that I feel continually these days. i thought that this was another temporary thing but this hasn't gone away for 3 yrs. I was 14 yrs sober at that time and I had just worked thru my codependency issues along with having everything I owned stolen - with no insurance on it - I was getting ready to move, packed it all up and somebody else backed up their truck to my double garage, loaded up and took my stuff to their house. so I lost my fear of financial insecurity. long story but that theft freed me to move from san diego to seattle - twas a walk of faith my friends and so worth it - I cant see the big picture so when something looks like a crisis its usually just a direction changer for me. My sponsor had me read 60thru63 and 449thru452 in the BIG BOOK everyday for 5 yrs. (some of us are sicker than others) teehee anyway it was a foundation for when any problem came along and she was very wise to see that I would need that. My joy today is not attached to any person place thing or medication. I fit in my own life. I enjoy being me. I have patience and tolerance today for I can give the grandkids back once they start to bug the crap outa me - THOSE THAT MIND DON'T MATTER AND THOSE THAT MATTER DON'T MIND. I work with newcomers and go hit 30 minutes of a meeting every day after work and a couple on the weekends. the only thing that I did perfectly up till today was I didnt take a drink in the good times, or the bad times or the times when there was no feeling and I just waited till the miracle happened and my friends it did. I dont take this for granted it is by the grace of God and the fellowship of AA that this is happening. I was just willing to do all those stupid things that were so beneath me until my -ss fell off and I would have done anything to get rid of the pain at those time and you were there for me. thank u. and God Bless You. congrats, love birds, like my friend told me the other day, relationships are like miracle grow fertilizer for character defects and I had to agree with her, she was laying face down on my carpet surrendering getting dumped, maybe she was talking to the carpet. we do really weird things when we hurt, anyway, babbling, Thank God for AA and thank AA for my God, love u all


Member: mark d
Location: las vegas, nv
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 9:13:53 AM

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For anyone interested, a comprehnsive and unofficial listing of on-line recovery resourses can be found at

http://www.primenet.com/~bbbunch I list it here as I think it is one of the most complete starting points.

I belong to more than one e-mail group, I regularly do irc chat meetings. ON-line AA is an added tool for me. In no way does it replace for me a good ol' face to face meeting.

hey if yer new and want to write qyitkaos@anv.net My name is mark, alcoholic.....1-4-93


Member: Chuck S.
Location: Cntrl WV
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 10:31:12 AM

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"GOOD MORNING EVERYONE" Chuck S.here,hope you all are hanging in and doing well! My sons finally went to bed now it's "MY TURN".It's drizzling and dreary here,but I'm sober and that's where it's at,right? Hey Joel H. I lived in the Lafyette area 80-91 and went to many,many meetings, however can't recall a Fred M.Where was your home group? Mine was the MonNite grp in Franklin.Do you recall a Dick G or Doc M.? They were my sponsors.I still call D.G. from time to time. Are you Cajun [C---A-- respectfully!]?? I miss La.and would be there now if not for my sons being here in WV. My youngest graduates in 2000 so I'll go back after that,maybe, who knows what HP has in store? He does and he"s not telling!!ODAT!!! Well I've got stuff to do so I'm outa here for now and will drop in abit later.

"THANKS FOR THE SPACE"!!


Member: George M.
Location: State of Serenity!
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 12:10:32 PM

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I'm just so damn happy to be sober this weekend! It is true...if you follow this simple program of recovery..life, if not perfect, sure gets a hell of a lot better! Still grateful after nine years a day at a time... I think TODAY is a great day to be good to myself..I think I will! Hi Bek.


Member: Chuck S.
Location: Cntrl WV.
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 3:34:00 PM

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Hi,I'm Chuck an alcoholic, thought I'd drop in and see who's her this afternoon.Guess you all are either at a meeting or taking a nap. Anyway I hope you are well and having a sober day.Thank HP and the program I am. I'm outa here for now and will drop in later.

TFTS!!Hope to find some of you here later!!!


Member: pam l
Location: fruita co
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 4:06:13 PM

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hi pam here and i'm trying to get sober but everytime i stop drinking i get awful panick atticks and night sweats. my doc has me on ativan but doesn't seem to help anyone out there having the same probs? how do i get through this?


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 4:40:45 PM

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Pam, John R pretty much shared the answer to your question before you asked it. Go back and read it.

Night sweats are just mild withdrawal; consider your lucky that it's not DT's and get to a meeting. See, I'm so sick what I'm REALLY thinking is "only night sweats and panic attacks? Who would stop when it's only that bad?". I went 'till the paramedics pulled me out of the closet with full blown DT's. And, of course, those who made it to convulsions are wondering why I quit when it was only DT's.

Regardless, seek sobriety before it gets worse. I'm no doctor, but getting on your knees and asking God for help usually works better than Ativan. To answer the last question, you get through it by knowing that we did; and we did it by asking God to help us not drink for one day.


Member: pam l
Location: co
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 4:43:44 PM

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trying to get my REAL life back i'm afraid if i don't i will die and what good would that do? i need some serious help but am embarrassed to try to get it no one in my family knows the extent of my drinking. i need prayers and help from my higher power


Member: A Friend
Location: Seattle
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 5:15:35 PM

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Pam,

I will never shut the door on the day I decided to get sober and be drug free. I went through Detox in a hospital. I really thought my life was over, but had some hope for a chance of recovery. I was afraid, angry, and lonley.

All I wanted was someone to tell me it was going to be o-kay. Somewhere deep down, I mustered up the strength to not use or take a drink one moment at a time. Then I was introduced to this wonderful program.

I could not realize how so many people could be happy and enjoy being sober? I wanted this feeling so bad. The only way I achieved this was meetings, sponsers, praying to my HP, and not taking that first drink or hit.

I know what you are going through with the house fire. I went through three of them when I was a kid and teenager. It is the worst feeling in the world to realize that you lost your home. All of your personal things are gone and you have know way to retrieve them. I was afraid to sleep, panick attacks in the middle of the night. I hated everyone and was afraid of everything. I hope I will never have to experience this awful feeling again. I know today though, HP gives me nothing I can't handle. Through these tragic events in my life, something good has come out of it. I, understand the pain people go through and always try to help when they have lost hope.

Hang in there Pam. You can find literatue on-line and by going to A.A. meetings. LET PEOPLE HELP YOU and don't be ashamed to LET GO AND LET GOD!

A Friend


Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo, NY
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 6:08:38 PM

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Pam,

Write me at magic@bluemoon.net anytime. Go to a meeting get phone numbers and use them. Read AA literature. Pray, pray for help. Don't worry about what your family thinks about your getting help. Leave it in God's hands. Embarrasement is no reason not to seek help. You're dealing with a prgressive fatal disease here so don't take it lightly.

In early sobrioty, I had panic attacks too. I went to a hospital for detox to deal with it. Things WILL get better if you do the things you need to do to get better.


Member: Brenda
Location: AZ
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 8:30:07 PM

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PLEASE I hope I don't offend anyone by being in here...I'm not a member and I also drink. But I assure you my presence and my inquiries are not meant to be offensive in ANY way. I may or may not have a drinking problem, at this time I'm quite undecided. About a year ago I saw a segment on 20/20 or 60 Minutes about a program designed to help people "set limits" on thier drinking, rather than quit altogether. I remember there were comments by AA members on why this method was no good, but not what their concerns were specifically. It seems to me that anyone drinking less than "too much" is still an accomplishment of sorts. Can anyone familiar with what I saw, or anyone with any thoughts of opposition on the subject reply? I value all of your stories and shared experiences...even if I'm not a member. Again, I apoligize if my presence or comments offend anyone...I have quuestions and nobody to ask.


Member: JERRY S
Location: CHATTANOOGA TN.
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 8:54:25 PM

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WELL HELLO FOLKS THIS IS MY FIRST ADVENTURE INTO A CHAT ROOM OF ANY KIND. I AM TO SAY THE LEAST VERY CONFUSED AND DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I AM DOING THIS PROPERLY. I HOPE THAT SOME OTHER RECOVER- ING FRIEND READS THIS AND LETS ME KNOW IF I AM ON THE RIGHT TRACT. WELL I AM A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS SOBER AND HAVE LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT. I HOPE SOMEONE WILL E MAIL ME BACK TO LET ME KNOW IF I AM GETTING TO YOU.


Member: Jon
Location: N.Cal
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 9:06:22 PM

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<font color=red> Jon, alcoholic\addict here. Just checking in at the coffee pot. Long day, it's 6PM here in wet N. Cal. but I'm clean and sober by the grace of my H.P.


Member: Jon
Location: N.Cal
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 9:06:57 PM

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<font color=red> Jon, alcoholic\addict here. Just checking in at the coffee pot. Long day, it's 6PM here in wet N. Cal. but I'm clean and sober by the grace of my H.P.


Member: David B
Location: Idaho Falls
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 10:15:26 PM

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As a group of people that have shared a common plight, we alcoholics are altruistic to a fault. I don't care to list how many members have offered heartfelt advice to Monica L of washington DC. perhaps I myself am just a tad too cynical. but the best advice I can offer to Monica L of Washington DC is the folks that share here do so because we really care about the suffering alcoholic. If you want to joke around, it would be kind to let us know your question is not sincere. My suggestion is don't swallow.


Member: RITA R
Location: MARION IN.
Date: 2/21/98
Time: 11:06:05 PM

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Hi my name is Rita and I amsober by the grace of God and you people. This is my first time in this meeting. My son got me on the internet and then turned me on to inter net meetings.I wnt to say to grace.I have found that everytime I go through a tough time Iam stronger for it. We build our strength or at least I have found this true for me.I have learned meany things about living by not giving up. I love life and all it has for me. Only with Gods help can I continue.Read the B.B. go to meetings and dont drink.I am considered an old t imer now didnt think i would ever see the day when i started.God says --he would and could if you seek himB.B.IAM HAPPY I FOUND YOU.


Member: pam l
Location: fruita co
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 12:14:57 AM

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pam here again i just returned from a meeting and when i opened the door there was no landing boy did i make an entrance i was so afraid that everyone there thought i was drunk i almost walked out but i stayed and alnmost everyone said that they fell down the stairs on their first meeting because there is no warning sign on the door. i was given another big book and will start reading it tonight. thanks for steering me in the right direction especially mark d.


Member: pam l
Location: fruita co
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 12:50:17 AM

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Jerry S you are getting through this is my first day also and my first day of sobriety i hope its not the last. i, like you this is my first day in chat . i'm still trying to figure it out chat and sobriety


Member: pam l
Location: co
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 1:24:08 AM

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made it through one more day my birthday is tomorrow the only thing iwant is to be sober but eveytone knowa that's not possible except for me and my husband .he can drink 1 beer and not anymore i wish that i could he is here to support me and said he would never drink even a single beer around me. how lucky can a girl get?


Member: mary w.
Location: kansas
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 1:56:13 AM

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to brenda in az. it is an accomplishment of sorts to limit you drinking.thats why it took me so long to become a "real"member of A.A. i had many misconceptions as to what a alkie was--it was a skidrow bum,someone who drank and drove and hurt someone,it was my mother who drank at home and made my homelife hell. so i could let the ice melt in my drink at home, but at the bars ( i wasn't drinking alone there were lots of people there!) look out i could let loose. and then came my fall. a little 20 question booklet that changed my world when i answered it honestly. if you came here sweetheart, i am sorry to say that you most likely qualify for the program. go to some open meetings in your area and talk to the people there to hear thier experience, strenght and hope. by the way ther is no offense taken, by me,by you honest questions. keep coming back it gets better.(thats what they told me, and it changed my life.) hugs to all, m.


Member: JulieJ
Location: Washington
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 2:44:50 AM

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Geezz...I am so scared....I am not clean and sober. I am trying. My life is so screwed up. My Mom died 3 years ago. I took care of her for 3 years before she died. She became totally dependant on me. Life rolls reversed. I became the mother, she the child. I remained totally sober during those years. After she died and my brother rejected me because of my responsibility and the lack of his, all connections have been cut off. I am so confused. I drink to cope. Let me add that the brother that has cut me off is also an alcoholic and is now addicted to prescription drugs... Man, I am so confused. I take care of 2 lovely grand-children every day, I have a wonderful husband who is trying to deal with my problems. He thinks I shoud just get over it. I am having terrible problems just getting "over it". Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.


Member: Joel H
Location: Asia
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 4:47:59 AM

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Joel H here, by the grace of GOD and your fellowship i'm alive today.

Congradts Pam, only 24 hrs in each day, take them one at a time, minute by minute if necessary. This is a miracle program, just 2 days ago, i thought i was going crazy (dry drunk) i've been living abroad for 3 yrs. without a meeting. No excuse, i do get home once a yr for a few wks. Then i came here, and in the short course of 2 days i've decided to stay another day, i'll decide again tomorrow if i should go. Lonliness is amplified by my desease, problems at work seem to be more than i can bare. Guess what they are, and i have given it to GOD, i read here somewhere, that GOD's will was to do what's in front of me know. that's what i'm doing (thanks to whoever said that). i don't want to go back to sitting behind a locked door in the dark pistol in hand. that's where i will go back to if i can't get to you people. i seem to lose my touch with my higher power (think i can control something)when i don't have others to keep it simple for me. Thanks to all, and my GOD. I'm here to tell you no matter how bad it was you can forget where you came from. Thanks for grounding me.

Thank you God and you group of people for one more day,

One day, that's all.


Member: Joel H
Location: Asia
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 6:22:58 AM

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Joel here, drunk alki, alive only by God's grace & your fellowship,

Chuck S. I'm not from Lafayette, i'm from new orleans, my sponsor who left La. headed for either Lafayetter, or Little Rock area. I left the country b4 i could get his contact #. Now being over here with no face to face meetings i needed to talk with him. Thank you for trying. His name agian (Fred M).

Oh yeah Chuck I'm a Cajun, by the very nature of my birthplace. It's good to hear someone who knows what that means. It gets lonely here, and you can about imagine how magnified it becomes without ya'lls fellowhship.

God Bless,


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 8:25:58 AM

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Brenda, the program you are looking for is Moderation Management. Here is their page:

http://comnet.org/mm/

If alcoholism is a progressive disease, then there must an early point at which controlled drinking is possible, and so these guys address that idea. Actually, AA does too, in a way. What we tell people is that if you are not sure, try some controlled drinking. That's exactly what Moderation Management is.

If you use them and control your drinking, by all means do so. I've seen their limits, and if you can drink like they do, you don't need us (I still don't get how ANYBODY would want to drink 2 beers a day!!).

Should you need help stopping, please come back.


Member: Diane H.
Location: Michigan
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 9:03:09 AM

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To JulieJ

My heart goes out to you. A death, especially one involved with so much care-giving can produce prononced depression after the fact. I speak from experience. After my father's death and total care-taking of my mother, I shut down and ended up in the stress center. That didn't help because they tried to tell me I hated my Mom and did not address the alcoholism and depression. I kept looking (the alternative was killing myself by a bullet or drinking) and finally found a wonderful therapist who put me on an anti-depressant (which saved my life) and 3 years of therapy to deal with things made me very happy again and able to deal with life. The alcohol part, only God could help with that and I am very grateful that He did. Don't let it just sit there and suffer, get help that will enable you to love and live life again. You can do it dear, I did and am very thankful I did. I have been there and feel your pain.

Love, Diane


Member: EiEileen
Location: Pa.
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 9:28:24 AM

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To Julie. I would love to chat. Have something in common. I don't know how to do this because I don't want you to give out your address. Maybe someone will know. Eileen


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 10:01:54 AM

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Eileen (and Julie) -- xchange EMAIL addresses through

secretary@stayingcyber.org


Member: Eileen
Location:
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 12:05:00 PM

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Thanks Glen. You've been a great help. God bless. Eileen


Member: JERRY  W
Location: THOMPSON N D
Date: 2/22/98
Time: 12:49:10 PM

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i'm jerry and i'm a alcoholic is there any on out there with feb 22 as therr aa brithday have a happy thanks to aa and a loveing higher power i have put 9years toghter and it is done one day at a time and the big book way life is better when you have aa in your life at lleast it is for me to all of you just starting out you do not have to stay sober for 20 years do it one day at a time and you will one day end up with 20years love all in aa jerry