Member:
Cherise D.
Date:
12/28/97
Time:
12:26:45 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Cherise and I'm an alcoholic. Merry Christmas to everyone and I hope your Holidays went well. I guess I would like to make this weeks topic on Humility.

This isn't something I hear about very often in meetings and is something I find very important in my recovery. In the 12 and 12 it says "To those who have made progress in AA, it amounts to a clear recognition of what and who we really are, followed by a sincere attempt to become what we could be."

In January I'm coming up on two years, and I am finally learning A LITTLE of who I am. The last few months have been huge learning experiences with all of my defects,(steps 6&7) and I've been feeling like I've been going backwards. I've been real close to my sponsor with all of this, and I'm at a new level of recovery. Well it hurts sometimes to recognize my defects I love to beat myself up, so lately I've been feeling I can't do anything right or say anything right. I actually feel like the more I work this program the less I know. (Which is probably the best thing for me). For me it's humility and I'm finally understanding what it's really all about. The difference between now and then, is I have a concious, and am totally aware of my defects, and am willing to ask GOD to take them away on a daily basis and I am making a sincere attempt to become what I can be. I don't always have to be right and be the one who knows it all. I will make mistakes, but I can correct them immediately and feel great doing it. I am growing and really starting to like who I am becoming. I have so much more to learn but am ready for this wonderful journey. I believe today that the Grace of God is doing for me what I could not do for myself. Thanks for letting me share and have a very happy and sober New Year!!!


Member:
Judy K in Maine
Date:
12/28/97
Time:
1:34:54 PM

Comments

Thanks, Cherise. An important topic, and a great one to start off the new year! A wish for all of you that 1998 may be sober, serene and satisfying!

Humility is becoming "right size," Bill W said. Not the best-of-the-best or even the-worst-of-the-worst, but just the honest and true me, foibles and talents rolled into one. Cherise, I had to laugh about you're knowing nothing. I've come to the same place -- and that seems to be a good and honest place. It has made me childlike with wonder and joy all over again. I don't have to run away or push myself out front either! The result is such peace! I know HP loves me just the way I am, and so do my grandkids. Talk about blessings! My grandiosity and defiance are sometimes nowhere to be seen or even felt. Of course this isn't consistent! But it's a lot better. How I love the Program!!!

I learned somewhere that adults don't need to defend themselves. We simply stand before the world as ourselves.


Member:
don w.
Date:
12/28/97
Time:
2:31:26 PM

Comments

I believe that abe lincoln said " humility was when a person Willingly got on there knees to pray. this topic is great for me as i need this every day. In my recovery i use the third step prayer( some days quite often ) to help me with my humility.


Member:
Corky F.
Date:
12/28/97
Time:
4:54:44 PM

Comments

Hi Everybody, I think humility is an excellent topic, Therise. Bare with me, I have a very good memory, but it is very short. Don, what u shared about Lincoln said about humility is be on one's knees. I confess I have always had trouble with understanding what humility is. That is a very good description. In step 7 of the 12 & 12 pg. 72 says "That basic ingredient of all humility, desire to seek and do God's will". This was pointed out to me at a meeting by a fellow AA friend of 7 years to an OT of 32 years. I can and still do learn from those with less time in the program. It did encourage me to get into the 12 & 12 and BB to keep up with him. There is much more about humility in step 7 and many of the other steps. My egocentric attitude sometimes sure messes up my humility, especially when I have sum and find out it is ego. I continue to learn from listening to others and studying the BB (first 164 pgs.). Thanks for the topic and thanks for everyone's input. God Bless all of u and Happy 1998. Each day for me is one more day that God can use me, if I allow Him. corkyf@c2i2.com


Member:
Eugene  C.
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
12:28:35 PM

Comments

Hi Cherise, my name is Eugene and i'am a very greatful alcholic,and for me,humility is accepting the things I cannot change,or in more simpler terms, learning to mine my own buisness,regardless how powerful the urge to correct someone else, who have neither asked for,nor wish to be directed, by my expertise advise.Although, I haven't reached the halo level in practising humility, I must admit,for someone who before comming to A.A., believed the world would end if HE died, I have come along way,and learning what was and is my buisness, has been one of the greatest contributors to my soberity.For me humility is a simple as saying "THANK YOU",to a power greater than myself, whom I choose to call God, whenever something good happens, which can be quiet often during the day if I pay attention.Happy New Year, and remember keep "It simple"!


Member:
Tech
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
12:55:33 PM

Comments

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Member:
Anne M.
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
1:11:22 PM

Comments

Wow, humility... I am so full of ego by nature, that I have to make the seeking of God's will for me part of my daily routine. It is so easy to forget about God's will. I say the Third Step prayer every morning before I even get out of bed. And I say it slowly, and repeat it if I can't feel myself letting go of the outcomes of my *plans*. And as I've felt loved by my Higher Power for who I am, I've not needed to prove myself to others AS MUCH. (I mean, we're not talking perfection here <grin>) I've discovered that it's easier now to be a 'worker among workers'. I'll be learning more about this for the rest of my life, no doubt. That's something else I've begun to develop in AA...patience with my progess. I am just supposed to do the 'next' thing, the footwork, and let God choose when I am to be relieved of any particular defect. In God's time, not MY time. Congratulations to all of us who are having a sober New Year's! This program really works, if you work it. *hugs*


Member:
Julie
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
7:58:21 PM

Comments

I think we all have a little trouble digesting the concept of humility. My first problem was in understanding the definition of the word...my second issue was in finally understanding the true definition of the word! The word "humility" is not used as often in our language as the similar sounding "humiliate." Growing up in a messed up family taught me how it felt to be humiliated which means lowering the pride or dignity of a person. Humility, on the other hand, I learned through this program. Humility means humbling oneself or showing modesty in behavior, attitude or spirit...lack of pride, not trampled down pride or a loss of dignity. Because I did not understand this early on, my pride got in the way. I tried to stay sober on my own without a sponsor and without an active program...because I didn't need anyone's help. I certainly wasn't going to share anything about my life, present or past with anyone! Well, you know what I learned? There's a great peace that comes when you ask for help and start embracing "humility" as a friend rather than guarding yourself with pride. I heard something neat in a meeting recently which was about asking for help..."In the Big Big Book there's a story about Jesus falling from the weight of the cross. He got up, but he fell again. When he fell the third time, he accepted help in carrying a cross he could no longer carry alone." I hope if you're reading this and you've come to a point where you can't carry your alcohol or living problem alone, you'll humble yourself and ask for help. You don't have to do it alone...you can't. It's a selfish program, but it's a "we" program.


Member:
kay h. alberta. can.
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
8:23:13 PM

Comments

HI EVERYONE. my name is kay and i,m a recovering alcholic and i think all you comment,s on humility were very interesting. i to didn,t know the meaning of humility but A,A, HAS THAUGHT ME ALOT. keep writing.thank you .


Member:
Mike W.
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
9:11:08 PM

Comments

My name is Mike and I am an alcoholic. That is the first time that I have made that statement in years. I have stayed sober and sometimes dry, but recently old habits and thoughts are coming back. I guess humility to me is coming back to a program that gave so much to me which I have not returned with "my tail between my legs". Humility is also coming to the realization that no matter how much time I have had in not drinking, I can always go back out except for the grace of God. I look forward to starting a programa and getting back involved in recovery. I am also grateful that the Internet has provided so many more resources for recovery and look forward to meeting many of you through these meetings.


Member:
RANDY B. (MATTAWA,WA.)
Date:
1/1/98
Time:
10:45:37 PM

Comments

MY NAME IS RANDY AMD I'M AN ALCOHOLIC. IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO SAY THAT AND MEAN IT. I THINK THE TOPIC OF HUMILITY IS GREAT. AS MANY OTHERS IT TOOK ME A LONG WHILE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HUMILITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE. I WAS ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE IT WHAT I WANTED IT TO BE. FOR ME IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY EGO BECAUSE I ONLY HAD A FALSE EGO WHEN DRINKING. I WOULD OUTWARDLY "STRUT MY STUFF" SO TO SPEAK, BUT INWARDLY I FELT LIKE THE LOWEST POSSIBLE CREATURE ON GODS EARTH. TODAY HUMILITY FOR ME IS GETTING ON MY KNEES AND ASKING GOD TO REMOVE "SELF WILL" SO THAT I MAY DO HIS WILL. IT TOOK 7 YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT, BUT GOD SHOWED ME A BETTER LIFE THROUGH THE FELLOWSHIP OF A.A. I HAVEN'T HAD TO DRINK TODAY, AND FOR THAT I'M GRATEFUL.


Member:
Paul C  Antioch CA
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
2:28:29 AM

Comments

Hi, I'm an alcoholic and my name is Paul. This is my first time to this meeting. Good meeting and a good topic. I'm going on 3 years now and I'm just beginning to understand humility. 28 years ago I recall a man telling me I was a "know it all and a smart?#!" He was right. Lately I've learned that I don't need to be the center of attention or in the middle of a situation going on around me nor do I have to show off my superior intellegence, so I thought. All I have to do is be me. Do the best I can "moment by moment sometimes". God's doing the work, who am I to take the credit. And since GOD is doing the work I feel secure with myself for the first time in my life. Calmness and Patience seem to follow. I'm growing up and I'm growing spiritually. "No Ego Satisfaction" I thank God I'm not drinking anymore!


Member:
Mary W.  Arcadia, MI
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
7:53:43 AM

Comments

Hi, My name is Mary and I'm a recovering alcoholic, thanks to all of you in my AA family. Humility is a great topic, one that seems to be difficult for many of us to talk about. I always confused it with humiliation. Actually it was humiliation which brought me to my knees and the realization that I was indeed an alcoholic. I have struggled to learn the true meaning of humility, as my Ego gets in the way constantly. However when I remember to practice the 3rd Step and Accept what God has planned for me, then humility steps in and I begin to feel that long sought after feeling of serenity. This is my first time on this line....I shall return. Thanks for listening and Happy 1998!!! Mary W.


Member:
mike r
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
10:40:49 AM

Comments

Hi,i'm mike.i'm a drunk from mass.i've been sober over 10 yrs.I deal with less humility now then when i was drinking.When i was drinking i was always apoligizing for stupid things i did when i was drunk.The most humiliating thing i ever did was surrender to alcohol.After that things got alot easier to accept.I don't humiliate myself as much anymore.


Member:
mike r
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
10:41:10 AM

Comments

Hi,i'm mike.i'm a drunk from mass.i've been sober over 10 yrs.I deal with less humility now then when i was drinking.When i was drinking i was always apoligizing for stupid things i did when i was drunk.The most humiliating thing i ever did was surrender to alcohol.After that things got alot easier to accept.I don't humiliate myself as much anymore.


Member:
Peter D
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
11:44:17 AM

Comments

Hi I'm Peter and I'm an alcoholic!!!!! I am sober for 79 days and I am starting to define humility, to me it is the acceptence of who I am and where I am to be in the scheme of life. By hiding behind the alcohol I was able to disappear from life and not pay attention to myself or my surroundings therefore I had no concept of self. In being sober I have had to take a very close look inwards and realize who I have been and acknowledging what I have done, this is where I believe my humility begins. Thanx for the sharing time, Happy Holidays and sober LOVE to you all from the bottom of my heart!!!!!


Member:
Patrice J.
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
1:48:14 PM

Comments

Hello to Everyone In the "Room",

My name is Patrice and I'm an Alcoholic. What a wonderful topic to begin the year with! It would seem that Humility is best expressed by the 1st Step of our Twelve Step readings. It is only when we make an honest expression of what is making our lives out of control and humbly submit ourselves to a Power Greater than Us, can we find the serenity for which we so desperately yearn. When I first came around, I remember hearing that either your get humble or you will be humiliated. Having tried to kill myself on a steady basis for over 20 years, I was smart enough when I first came in to shut and put the cotton in my mouth and take it out of my ears. I still have to practice some of that same humility in order to give myself an opportunity to recover from my character defects. Thank God that time, work and patience will provide you with a bunch of blessings in the Program. I'm anxious to continue living one day at a time so that I can continue to grow and so that I continue to live my blessings. When I came around I wanted so desperately to be seen and heard, now I yearn to be felt. I don't always have something to say in the rooms, but my showing up says volumes: such as, the Program works and don't leave before the miracle happens. Happy New Year to all of my brothers and sisters on the path!!!


Member:
Ann Z.
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
4:04:05 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, my name is Ann and I'm an alcoholic. Humility is a wonderful topic to start of the year with. I remember when I first came into the program I came in totally humiliated because of what I had done because of my drinking. I don't have to feel that way everyday when I get up anymore. One day at a time, I am recovering. It's been 9 years since my last drink. Looking back I know I've come a long way in the area of humility, but I also know I have a long way to go. Humility to me is knowing and accepting my small yet special part of God's larger plan. This is only my second time in this meeting but I really enjoy it. I wish everyone a very happy new year and one full of recovery!


Member:
RW
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
5:18:14 PM

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Member:
Bruce  
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
7:46:14 PM

Comments

Hi, I am an alcoholic and my name is Bruce. For me humility begins when I accept the fact that I am powerless over alcohol, and that I NEED some other HIGHER power to supply me with the strength and guidacnce I need to live my life. I cannot do it alone. I now know this, and each day I humbly ask my HP to grant me His blessings one more day, so that I may stay sober, sane, healthy and happy for another 24 hours. Humility is also that guiding force that reminds me over and over again that I am no better than anyone else. Have a positive, happy new year.


Member:
Marcia M.
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
7:48:28 PM

Comments

Haooy New Year! I am Marcia, an alcoholic, new to the program, one week to be exact. Interesting to read what is being said about humility. I am still functioning under humiliation at this point, but tis nice not feeling ashamed every morning upon waking. I have a sense of humbleness - the world will continue on whether I am sober or not, I would rather be sober and move with life's flow. The holidays were hard, but I am hanging in. Very happy this site is here, am soaking up the years of experience. Thanks for "listening"


Member:
Another Drunk
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
8:49:40 PM

Comments

Keep coming back, Marcia. You're always welcome in these rooms.


Member:
LOUIS  GATINEAU,CANADA
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
9:05:36 PM

Comments

I MY NAME IS LOUIS,ALCOHOLIC.HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.FIRST TIME ON THE SITE.LOVE IT.TONIGHT I PLAYED BOWLING,AND ONE PLAYER IS A S... DISTERBER,BUT THE WORST PART IS I GAVE HIM POWER OVER MY LIFE.ALL NIGHT I JUST FELT LIKE GETTING UP AND KICK THE S... OUT OF HIM.THANK GOD I DIN'T . I DIN'T HUMILIATE MYSELF.NOW IF I CAN LEARN TO LET GO I'LL BE OK. THANK YOU.


Member:
Ray [Brisbane Australia]
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
9:25:39 PM

Comments

hi ,I am an alcoholic and my name is Ray.I haven't been to a topic meeting in years and being able to roll out the recived wisdom of what humility is and how much of it I have got has left me I remember saying once that humility is being God dependent and I actively remind God of my dependence on him and need of his/her help.Where I slip up is that I don't meditate enough as it says in step 11.This is also my first time in cyber AA .Thanks.


Member:
Kim E
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
9:53:55 PM

Comments

Hi everyone! My name's Kim and I'm an alcoholic. Humility is a tough topic, but certainly worthwhile. The best definition I've heard is that humility is thinking of yourself less - not thinking less of yourself. If I say I am humble, is that my ego talking? It's best if I constantly remind myself that God is running my show now, and with Him in charge, things tend to go real well. Keep coming back!


Member:
Peggy W.
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
10:15:33 PM

Comments

Hi, my name is Peggy and I am a grateful alcoholic who is continuing to develop humility one day at a time and it sometimes feels excruciatingly slow. I like the concept of humility as accepting my small but unique part of God's plan in his unique design of "Peggy", with all her faults and defects. It also requires me to acknowledge the good part of my character as well..and we all have them, even though it seems we are very awful people, expecially at first , The newcomer Peter said it well: that he is acnowledging who he is and what he did and that is the beginning for us. It sure was the beginning for me. I was in denial for a very longtime before I showed up in these rooms. Thank God for AA, and thank God for all of you.


Member:
Maureen
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
10:27:40 PM

Comments

This is my first time at this meeting. I am just grateful that I am not alone. My denial is so much stronger than my humility sometimes, and that is when I just need to keep asking God to show me what to do next. I am going on 2 years, but I don't feel like I'm getting this program, probably because my ego is getting in the way and I feel so unique. Thanks for letting me share.


Member:
DENISE K.-T.
Date:
1/2/98
Time:
10:45:10 PM

Comments

HI,MY NAME IS DENISE K-T, I AM AN ALCOHOLLIC AND WITH THE GRACE OF GOD AND MY WILLINGNESS I AM NOW SOBER 9 YEARS,2 MONTHS AND 2 DAYS.(I KNOW,WHOS COUNTING?) I AM. HUMANITY,HUMAN. THAT I WAS NOT WHEN I DRANK. I WAS ANOTHER DENISE. ONE I DON'T WANT TO BE AGAIN. I AM FROM NEBRASKA,NOW LIVING IN OREGON.I GOT SOBER IN ARIZONA AFTER MY DRINKING BUDDY GOT SOBER ON ME. OH HOW I WAS MAD AT LINDA. BUT I LOVED WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO HER,SO I JOINED THE CLUB. IT HAS BEEN AWHILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN TO A MEETING,AND I KNOW NOW, THAT GOD FOUND THIS SIGHT FOR ME. IF ANYONE WANTS TO EMAIL ME TO TALK, FEEL FREE. I LOVE MY LIFE AND I LOVE BEING HUMAN NOW. denise@spnt.com GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND KEEP WRITING BACK,IT WORKS. P.S. THE "PROMISES" DO COME TRUE.


Member:
Susan
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
12:29:06 AM

Comments

This is a wonderful topic. I especially liked the story of Jesus willing to accept help; I must have missed that story in the BB. Humility is knowing and accepting myself as I am today and being willing to say "I can't. He can . I think I'll let Him." Not easy words for a self sufficient New Englander. I've been sober 17 1/2 years by the grace of God, and am relieved to be out of the business of running the world. So much more time for gentler pursuits like having fun! A sober and serene new year to you all.


Member:
keith h
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
1:38:28 AM

Comments

hello my name is keith and iam an alcoholic.this is my first time out here for a meeting. i hope to get familiar w/ the new way of staying sober (online). iam coming up on my one year aniv. in the next few months. first time i ever had this much time... just want to wish everyone a happy new year, be safe... i will "keep coming back" to my new found meeting online...


Member:
Pam R.
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
2:24:00 AM

Comments

My name is Pam & I'm an alcohlic,this is a test to see if I can log on. I'll be back.


Member:
Steve C.
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
4:43:47 AM

Comments

Hi everybody, my name is Steve C. from Los Angeles and I just wanted to identify and say, "Hey." I heard that humility is knowing your place. I've been slcking on meetings and I am really realizing that my place is in AA. I never get to graduate. Advanced AA is beginning AA. Thank you for being here and thanks for my seat. (Or in this case, thanks for my keyboard.)


Member:
Debi F.  Palmer, Alaska
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
4:57:43 AM

Comments

Happy 1998,

I'm Debi and I'm an alcohlic. Humility is a great topic for starting out the new year. To me, humility is "free-falling through the universe" and knowing that I'm safe without the safety net, parachute, whatever. All I ever needed was God and I didn't see that until I connected with Him through AA and the people who helped expose me in those first six months of meetings! I am grateful for knowing that I am just like you . . . I used to be so one of a kind and drastically different! It makes for a lonely world! Humility is a gift--one of those paradoxes, though. When you start thinking about your own humility, then it's back to square one! I agree with the "non-graduate" a few messages ago--if this was a program that I could graduate from, the miracles would have never entered my life. Thanks for the great start this year. I haven't done cyber meetings before, and I think I'll stick around for a while! Keep things simple!


Member:
Karen G.-San Lorenzo, CA
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
10:06:02 AM

Comments

Good Morning, nice to be up & at a meeting. My name is Karen G. & I am a grateful recovering alcoholic. My last drink was 2-14-91. And in light of the topic of humility... I have, as we all do, only one day: today. I am grateful to the program of AA for teaching me how to live& for me humility has come from looking at what I am grateful for. When I am grateful, I cant be so self absorbed as I was when I was drinking. This program, a wonderful sponsor, & my sisters & brothers in the program have showed me the way. I am so very grateful to not have to drink today Have a wonderful sober day family.


Member:
Ralph C.
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
11:35:15 AM

Comments

Hi my name is Ralph and I am very gratefull to be a member of AA. I just got on line yesterday ,so this is new to me but very interested in being apart of this new way of having meetings. My soberity date is 2-18-95 and I try to stay very involed in this program. So I be very gratefull to any input on how I can get more information about these meetings.


Member:
Laura J.
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
5:51:31 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Laura J., an alcoholic. Humility for me is perspective. It's knowing where I fit in the world. First God, then sobriety, then the rest. I have been coming to AA for almost twenty years and I have only six weeks of sobriety. Still, I try to remember that by staying sober one day at a time, I can be of help to someone else rather than wallowing in self-pity about all the times I have gone back out and gotten drunk after having 5 or 6 years of continuous sobriety. It's all a learning process. AA on the web is about the coolest thing I've ever seen. Bill and Bob must be grinning from ear to ear.


Member:
Jacque R.    Nebraska
Date:
1/3/98
Time:
10:56:01 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Jacque and I'm an alcoholic. Had to apologize to my daughter today...heh,heh,heh. "Then comes the acid test: can we stay sober, keep in emotional balance, and live to good purpose under all conditions?" (Step 10 pg. 88 12X12) Yep, there it loomed before me...Step 10, whether I wanted it to or not. When I need to swallow a dose of humility, it doesn't seem as tough when it's between God and myself, but when it involves another human being it's a little harder to take. I still fall into self-will run riot, but living that 10th step can intervene at the most opportune times and when I am willing to actively follow it's principles, then and only then can I sleep restfully. Thanks for being here when I needed you and thanks be to God for AA.


Member:
Peter J
Date:
1/4/98
Time:
12:29:07 PM

Comments

Humility is surrender. When we surrender we go to the winning side. Forgivness, and acceptance are 2 words that are closly related to humility. Humility helps us to stay sober, and free!


Member:
Peter J
Date:
1/4/98
Time:
12:29:17 PM

Comments

Humility is surrender. When we surrender we go to the winning side. Forgivness, and acceptance are 2 words that are closly related to humility. Humility helps us to stay sober, and free!


Member:
Jeff G.
Date:
1/4/98
Time:
2:11:27 PM

Comments

Hello to all I first became involved apprx. 3 yrs ago with AA. After about 6 mnths into my sobriety I decided I could run things from that point! I'm sure you all know exactly what happened. It's been 2 days since I've turned things back over to him, and living one day at a time. Talk about humility! I've learned from my mistakes and I'm back. The program works, if you work the program! Looking forward to all your stories and advice. Have a sober and happy new year to you all!


Member:
Peter J. Alaska
Date:
1/4/98
Time:
5:43:43 PM

Comments

Welcome back Jeff! I have listened carefully to the dialog on humility. We in recovery must be humble, if we are, not then we are in relapse. Not long ago a young boy died in my hands as a result of smoking a little weed, and playing with loaded pistols. Joey was 14, and will never understand humility. The last late stage accoholic I saw, who drowned in his own blood did not understand humility either. For them it is too late. I understand that life is fragile, precious, and temporary. Be humble, and live!


Member:
Mike O.
Date:
1/4/98
Time:
10:03:39 PM

Comments

Hi, my name is Mike O. and i am an alcoholic...for me to be able to say that was my first step in humility. To know that I, Mike, needed help, I could not lick this problem by myself...and god knows I tried. The longer I stay around the more humility I gain. We all grow in this program at different levels...mine is slow. I had my last drink 6-15-85 thanks to my fellow recovering alkis and my higher power. Live and let live...let it go...serenity prayer,lords prayer, meetings...so many tools to use to keep my humility in check..I do not always do a good job, sorry to say, but i am so much better than i ever have been:-) Mike O.


Member:
Dave R.
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
2:44:15 AM

Comments

Hi, I'm Dave and this is the first time I've looked into AA. Unfortuneately, I'me not into God or humility. I drink far too much and have for quite a few years. I would rather cut back than quit full stop, though I realize that it would be better to quit. Guess I'm looking for a starting place. Humility doesn't cut it for me, I have many reasons to feel that I need over powering confidence in myself. This should be familar to many drunks, I think that it would be far easier to quit than to cut back. However, that's would I would like to try. Anyway, if there's anybody out there who would like to say hello, I'm willing to respond. Thanks, Dave.


Member:
Glen H
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
9:35:05 AM

Comments

Dave R - switch over to the "Coffeepot" and we will be glad to answer any questions that you have.


Member:
lewis a
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
12:04:49 PM

Comments

After 18 years i am greatfull to my higher power and the first step think i will try it one more day


Member:
lewis a
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
12:05:16 PM

Comments

After 18 years i am greatfull to my higher power and the first step think i will try it one more day


Member:
Tim G.
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
4:09:00 PM

Comments

Thanks Cherised, good topic and a lot of good stuff from everyone. Unfortunately, being a Tech I don’t always take the time to read the meeting and get all this good stuff. My loss.

I can ‘evaluate’ myself by taking a honest look at my behavior and actions and that’s necessary to do, but sometimes I need to ask someone else besides myself or my sponsor the question of ‘How am I doing?’. If I ask my wife, a friend, and a coworker the same question, practice humility when they answer, and learn from them, that can really help me to be a better person.

One of my sponsor’s favorites is: ‘Live life to good purpose’. I love that one, very simple.


Member:
Rich L.
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
5:26:11 PM

Comments

Hi, my name is Rich, and I am a alcoholic. I pratice the 10th step every night when I lay down to sleep.If I am honest with myself, and I try hard to be, I gain humility. Being honest and surrendering is my humility. You have to surrender to win.


Member:
Eugene C..
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
5:34:48 PM

Comments

To Dave R. The only requirment for help in A.A. is a desire to stop drinking, and you have certainly demostrated that in your message.You may contact me at econway@nfld.com, with or with out the coffe pot.


Member:
RTom /Indiana
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
7:47:47 PM

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Member:
RTom /Indiana
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
7:47:49 PM

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Member:
RTom /Indiana
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
7:47:51 PM

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Member:
RTom /Indiana
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
7:47:54 PM

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Member:
RTom /Indiana
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
7:47:56 PM

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Member:
DAVE M        WA.
Date:
1/5/98
Time:
9:41:12 PM

Comments

THANKS TO ALL FOR A GREAT TOPIC. I NEEDED TO HEAR ABOUT HUMILITY. I SEEM TO HAVE GREAT DIFFICULTY HANGING ON TO ANY FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME BUT IT DOES COME AROUND OCCASIONALLY AND FOR THAT I AM GRATEFUL. ADMITTING WHEN I AM WRONG HAS HELPED ME IN ALL MY RELATIONSHIPS AND SAVED ME FROM MUCH MISERY. DO YOU WANT TO BE RIGHT OR BE HAPPY? I NEED TO KEEP ASKING MYSELF THAT . HAVE A GREAT YEAR AND THANKS AGAIN


Member:
Shannon F. Forestville
Date:
1/6/98
Time:
1:39:12 AM

Comments

Here are a few thought on humility:

The true way to be humble is not to stoop till you are smaller than yourself, but to stand at your real height against some higher nature that shall show you what the real smallness of your greatest greatness is. Phillips Brooks

The program has taught me about the right size. I still don't always remember my size, but the lessons are there if I choose to listen, and be teachable. Being teachable is being humble, and humble is where it is at!


Member:
catherine C.
Date:
1/6/98
Time:
11:18:14 AM

Comments

Iam very new at this and I really enjoyed the topic,and the readings. I will be here again, and again. THANKS


Member:
Tech
Date:
1/6/98
Time:
8:15:56 PM

Comments

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Member:
Ralph T
Date:
1/6/98
Time:
10:37:41 PM

Comments

Sorry folks to waste space on this page. I've made several attempts to "submit" a comment but keep getting an ERROR message. This is just another attempt. Hop it works so I can participate in the meeting.


Member:
Del F.
Date:
1/7/98
Time:
11:49:35 AM

Comments

Member: Del F.

DATE: 1/7/98

Becoming humble was perhaps the hardest thing I had to do. To admit that I couldn't do it alone and that I needed God's help was a very humbling experience. I had always prided myself with the fact that I could manage my life alone. Well...I sure did. I "managed" to lose all faith, respect and feeling for myself. I certainly was a good manager. I have 15 years of sobriety and I still have to be reminded that I need to turn my will and my life over to the care of God, as I understand him. I lose my humility when I lose my attitude of graditude. God has done very nicely for me. He never leads me astray and its a good feeling to know that I can place my burdens in his hand, and if I'm patient and remain aware, he will show me the way. Then I need to thank him for all I have. The past 15 years have not been pain free, but I learned a long time ago, "pain is inevitable, suffering is optional." I don't have to suffer as much.


Member:
Marge C
Date:
1/7/98
Time:
2:46:52 PM

Comments

This is my first attempt to quite after 30 years. Today is day 6 and I have had a three day migraine that let up last night, It was great to find this sight and to read the comments. Maybe humiliy is what will finally bring me peace. I know that submitting this msg is a giant step for me and I hope that I can make it through the rest of the day.


Member:
Marge C
Date:
1/7/98
Time:
2:48:25 PM

Comments

This is my first attempt to quite after 30 years. Today is day 6 and I have had a three day migraine that let up last night, It was great to find this site and to read the comments. Maybe humiliy is what will finally bring me peace. I know that submitting this msg is a giant step for me and I hope that I can make it through the rest of the day.


Member:
Debbie W
Date:
1/8/98
Time:
3:47:32 PM

Comments

Even after 12 years I still have today only. My higher power constantly reminds me of this


Member:
Michael L.(Toronto,Canada)
Date:
1/8/98
Time:
5:33:14 PM

Comments

The one comment on humility that comes to mind is always caring for other people, especially the alcoholic who still suffers. My program is paramount to my helping others and others I must help. Unless I am open to others, I will miss opportunities to help others. When I start thinking of self importance-I tune out others. This will send me back to that deep, dark world I have left behind "but for the grace of God"


Member:
frank b (portland, oregon)
Date:
1/8/98
Time:
7:44:46 PM

Comments

hi i'm an alcoholic and my name is frank welcome to every new to the program and to those recently new..it works...p.25 in our owners manuel "the leveling of our self pride..is how i got to that point of humility (i guess and it only took me 4 and 1/2 years...i just wouldn't let God to for me what i could not do for myself...the first couple of years i wouldn"t even get on my knees when i prayed..i prayed cadillac style..on my back in bed..and then the miracle finally happened..i completely gave up my will and God took over wow what a relief...today for me living humly is trying to live to be the man God wants me to be...its not easy..the old self that thought self made macho bullshit was the way but it just isn't so..i hope everyone had a safe and sober new year holiday...read p.25 over and over and believe it..it works.


Member:
Rich G in WA
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
3:28:05 AM

Comments

I'm an alkie called Rich.

If I had any humility, I'd be glad to comment on it...since I don't, c'ya : )


Member:
Ellie B.fl.
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
9:21:31 AM

Comments

Hi,I'm a greatful recovering alcholic,my name is Ellie.Thank you,all for being here.The first time I came to the program was in 1968.I asked the chairman how the program worked &where do i sign up!!YOU ALL KNOW THE ANSWER. She told me they use the 12 Steps,so I went to where the Steps were hanging,read them then asked her what was next??!!Somehow I stayed sober for 8 yrs.Then came my graduate course-for anyone thinking about drinking,it gets worse,faster..-I just knew I was to young to be an alcholic.etc.etc.ad nauseum.During those 8 yrs.I would show up at every Anniversary mtg.to get my medallion.After all I had to show my HUMILITY. This time around I started with the 1st Step.I learned from you all that humility is truth.I am not the worst sonof a gun in the valley-nor am I the best.God does great work when I let Him!I also learned the dif.between God's will & mine.When everything is going well..that's God's will....when it's not,it's my will.After all,God's will for us is that we be HAPPY,JOYOUS &FREE!! i SURE HATE TH3ESE LONG WINDED PEOPLE !!lOVE YOUALL,ELLIE


Member:
Joanie O Portland Pa, USA
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
10:56:32 AM

Comments

Hi all Joanie O here alcoholic, Humility is not easy to explain or easy to do. It comes and goes as I work this program. Sometimes it feels so good and I feel a doorway to my Higher Power and sometimes I am out in the cold looking in . They say in AA that it is contingent upon my spiritual condition and I must maintain this constantly. When an overwhelming mood of grattitude comes thru I know I am on the right track, when I am off I had better stop look and dig to find out why I am not running on track. When this all happens I st back and feel that God was doing for me what I could not do for myself.With love JoanieO


Member:
early a,
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
2:48:46 PM

Comments

My name is Early A. and I'm an addict and an alcoholic. I'm glad to have found everyone I'm sick and housebound for awhile. In Feb. I will have 9 years. During the Hollidays I did experience some resentments at those who could have a beer with dinner. I did not pick up but I thought about.it. It would have been soo easy. I always need to work on humility and not a false one either. Also gratitude is a key,for me, to maintain my good attitudes. Thank you, family, for being there for me--I still need you. EarlyA. N.J.


Member:
The group treasurer
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
4:02:17 PM

Comments

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Member:
Paul M.
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
7:03:58 PM

Comments

My name is Paul, I'm an alcoholic.

Over time, I realize that the miracles occurring in my life are only for me to recognize and accept, not to plan for. Humility, then, for me involves being true to myself as best I can, and to do what I can to LET IT HAPPEN (rather than MAKE IT HAPPEN). Remembering to say, "thank you, God," and to continually ask for God's help lets me remain humble. That is, today I try my best to be willing to live life on life's terms.

Thanks for the topic and for chairing, Cherise, and congratlations on your sober time.


Member:
JUDY N.
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
7:09:53 PM

Comments

HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS JUDY AND I'M AN ALCOHOLIC AND AN ADDICT. I'M REALLY GLAD I FOUND THIS SITE. I FIND LISTENING TO OTHER RECOVERING PEOPLE VERY IMPORTANT TO MY RECOVERY.I TRY TO PRACTICE HUMILITY BUT SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS,BEING A VERY EGOTISTICAL, SELFWILLED ADDICT. BEING HUMBLE IS SOMETHING I PRAY ABOUT CONSTANTLY.


Member:
Dea M.
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
8:12:01 PM

Comments

Hi! I'm Dea and I'm an alcoholic. Humility slapped me real hard in the face when I started working on Step 4. My moral inventory kept getting longer and longer. I had known and acknowledged my problem or at least the main one, but man, I had no idea how much I had screwed up everyone else with my actions. I hope to do much better in the futrue with all of your help! Thanks and may your higher power watch over you always or at least today.


Member:
Joe H.
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
9:15:49 PM

Comments

Hi to all. My name is Joe and I`m a alkie/attic. First time in AA Cyberspace.I like it. Humility. How little is my greatest greatest. Heard this somewhere. My version is after a day of being around people, places, and things I am still able to sleep through the night. Love and support to all of You. God Bless.


Member:
gene n. Portland, Oregon
Date:
1/9/98
Time:
10:10:08 PM

Comments

My name is gene and I am an alcoholic. Humility is part of step # 7 and leads to a life of fun and release from the misery that is alcoholism as I know it. Over 11 years now with life getting better and better.


Member:
liz d.
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
12:20:53 AM

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Member:
liz d.
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
12:24:03 AM

Comments

hi my name is liz and i'm an alcoholic. the coolest thing i've ever heard about humility is that once you think you got it , you don't. humility is something i struggle with so much because i love to be in control and know everything. i have a HUGE ego. i have a very hard time asking people for anything, especially to borrow a couple of bucks or a ride if my car isn't working. i hate it. i love to solely depend on myself. i have learned alot lately about how much i need others, and that's how life works. happy new year!!!!


Member:
Jean mps
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
1:07:36 AM

Comments

I'm Jean, Alcoholic. from the Pacific Northwest. I am grateful to be qualified to contribute to this meeting. Humility began for me when I finally realized that I could not stop drinking by my self. Every day I would wake up and say to myself, "I'm not going to drink today". And every day I did drink. I was drinking a 5th of bourbon a day at that time and it was insane. I had tried so very hard to control my drinking and it never worked. I was terrified by my failure. I knew 'impending doom' but didn't know what it was. Finally one evening drunk, but watching Jeopardy and seeing double of all those squares, (I watched Jeopardy to prove how sober I was.), I found myself standing at the bar in the family room pouring myself a tumbler full of bourbon. This while seeing double. I had no idea how I had gotten there and realized I had not even made a decision to have another drink. I had to be nuts, totally out of control. In that moment, I said, "God. Help me." It was devine intervention I know. I found myself calling AA and then driving to a meeting near my home. I stumbled into the meeting and told them I could not do it any more. I didn't understand it at the time, but in that moment, I admitted I was alcoholic, believed that a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity, and surrendered my life and my will. I was drunk, fat, dumpy, boozy, baggy eyes and so very miserable. It was humiliating beyond belief. I was totally washed up. I later realized that that was the first time I had asked God to help me. Previously I had always said, "I" am not going to drink today; God answered my prayer when I finally was willing to get out of the drivers seat. That experience started my on the path traveled by so many before us. That occurred on March 14, 1989. I have not had a drink since. Go to meetings nearly everyday. I am SO grateful. Thank you for allowing me to share tonight and for being here for me.


Member:
Jean mps
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
1:08:28 AM

Comments

I'm Jean, Alcoholic. from the Pacific Northwest. I am grateful to be qualified to contribute to this meeting. Humility began for me when I finally realized that I could not stop drinking by my self. Every day I would wake up and say to myself, "I'm not going to drink today". And every day I did drink. I was drinking a 5th of bourbon a day at that time and it was insane. I had tried so very hard to control my drinking and it never worked. I was terrified by my failure. I knew 'impending doom' but didn't know what it was. Finally one evening drunk, but watching Jeopardy and seeing double of all those squares, (I watched Jeopardy to prove how sober I was.), I found myself standing at the bar in the family room pouring myself a tumbler full of bourbon. This while seeing double. I had no idea how I had gotten there and realized I had not even made a decision to have another drink. I had to be nuts, totally out of control. In that moment, I said, "God. Help me." It was devine intervention I know. I found myself calling AA and then driving to a meeting near my home. I stumbled into the meeting and told them I could not do it any more. I didn't understand it at the time, but in that moment, I admitted I was alcoholic, believed that a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity, and surrendered my life and my will. I was drunk, fat, dumpy, boozy, baggy eyes and so very miserable. It was humiliating beyond belief. I was totally washed up. I later realized that that was the first time I had asked God to help me. Previously I had always said, "I" am not going to drink today; God answered my prayer when I finally was willing to get out of the drivers seat. That experience started my on the path traveled by so many before us. That occurred on March 14, 1989. I have not had a drink since. Go to meetings nearly everyday. I am SO grateful. Thank you for allowing me to share tonight and for being here for me.


Member:
andrea
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
8:34:24 AM

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Member:
Gary K.
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
6:44:31 PM

Comments

Humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less.


Member:
lynne f
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
8:18:58 PM

Comments

My name is Lynne and I'm an alcoholic. Glad to find you guys and your online meeting. I'll have 14 years in Feb and the best quote I've heard on humility is "By the time I gained some humility I had also gained wisdom and no one knew I was wise. Thanks for being here. lfarrell2@juno.com


Member:
Fran D.  Georgia
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
8:39:30 PM

Comments

Hi! My name is Fran and I'm an alcoholic. I'm so glad I've found you. It's my first time in cyberspace, but I'll be back. My HP has given me enough humility to know that I can't do it alone - I need each and everyone of you.When I remember to be grateful to my HP I am saying that I have not done it all by myself- a first step to humility.


Member:
Sue V. Exira IA
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
11:39:40 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Sue and I am an alcoholic and an addict. This is a most wonderful find for me in Cyberspace. It literally saved my sanity the other night. It is not also easy being a single parent, but it is particularly difficult when the youngest has the chickenpox. I needed a meeting so bad and couldn't go out, so I ran to the computer and in a round-about way I found this meeting. I thank you all.

The knowledge that I, personally, can not manage any of the world around me helps me stay humble. I like the idea of being the right size. I have so much serenity in my life now and it all came from giving up a major resentment. The one I had against God. Once I turned my life over, everything got so easy. I wonder why I was so stupid to struggle so hard to run my life and the lives of everyone around me. I thank God all day long. He and I have a wonderful relationship. I really think he has the most wonderful sense of humor.

My Grandmother told me two things, "If you don't have the valleys, you can't enjoy the mountains" and "You can choose to be happy or angry in any situation, and if you're choosing to be angry most of the time, then you need to look inside yourself and ask Why?."

You people are great.


Member:
Just M.
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
11:54:57 PM

Comments

I was a participant of AA meetings for 13 years practically daily. A time appeared in my life when I became severly depresssed and felt a strong avoidance of other members as usual when we as human beings speak of our emotions. I have often felt much pain and rejection of many members. I am very hurt by the members of AA so therefore I have stopped going to meetings or any involvement with AA members other than the Big Book and continuous following of my spiritual path in prayer, meditation and continuing of taking a personal inventory. I am very mistrusting of AA members for most of them just want to listen to solutions and no pain. I resent the members of AA not the principles. Spirituality to me is intimacy.


Member:
Just M.
Date:
1/10/98
Time:
11:55:43 PM

Comments

I was a participant of AA meetings for 13 years practically daily. A time appeared in my life when I became severly depresssed and felt a strong avoidance of other members as usual when we as human beings speak of our emotions. I have often felt much pain and rejection of many members. I am very hurt by the members of AA so therefore I have stopped going to meetings or any involvement with AA members other than the Big Book and continuous following of my spiritual path in prayer, meditation and continuing of taking a personal inventory. I am very mistrusting of AA members for most of them just want to listen to solutions and no pain. I resent the members of AA not the principles. Spirituality to me is intimacy.