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Topic: July 25 - 31 2010. Self-Will Run Riot.Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 12:51pm |
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Topic: Self-Will Run Riot.
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SoberKat
Location: Boston |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 2:24pm |
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Ta dah... today is a day of miracles... I don't believe I've ever been first on ES!!
Self-will run riot... that is just a funny turn of phrase. I picture me running around like a chicken with my head cut off. And yet, it was my own head and my own ego based thoughts that caused me to run riot. Self-centered fear, self-pity, envy, unworthiness, pride, and a million other little insidious little viruses or programs that I allowed to run my life for so long - without even knowing it. It reminds me of the popular phrase in the 70's when computers first came out G.i.G.O. Garbage In... Garbage Out. The computer is only as good as the programming you put into it. Same is true for our minds... and when I allow MY thoughts to run the show, I'm pretty much destined for Garbage output. So today, I do my best to run everything through my God filter and allow Him to guide me in all of my affairs. I have a new employer who is all loving and all powerful. How freaking cool is that??? I no longer have to carry the weight of the world on my shoulders and continually turn to booze to help me manage it all. I am free at last... alleluia!!! |
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Faith, Hope & Love,
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Ernie
Location: Switzerland |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 2:38pm |
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hello my name is ernie and i am an alcoholic addict for sure
self will run riot, i tend to go towards negativity when using we all know where that got me, a big no where!! sober and clean today, that is His will for my life the last day of my life, today i miss my family but that does not mean i an abandoned no garbage in God loves me, my mother loves me, and i love me 3 love me, good start to a day positive facts in, no garbage out some quite time, church and a meeting no garbage in, no garbage out thanks for the impulse Soberkat!! Liz. M good to see u post again i was concerned for your safety Doug. look forward to seeing you in the future i am in california it is 0647 am not after 1100 pm swiss time ernie Edited by Ernie - 25 Jul 2010 at 2:48pm |
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Marissa B
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Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 3:39pm |
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Hello all, my name is Marissa, and at this point I am here merely to observe the procedures used in a 12-step process, especially one conducted over the internet! I am working on my bachelor's degree and I am currently taking a class on Social Work and Addictions. I hope you do not mind my observation as I feel I could learn a lot from you. I wish you all luck in your endeavors. :)
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beth k
Location: massachusetts |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 4:11pm |
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Hi Marissa.. it is an open meeting meaning you are welcome to observe, participation is for anyone who has a desire to stop drinking... anyone :)
Self will run riot.. I remember wondering what the hell does that mean??? I also remember my good friend Pam B using that phrase until I wanted to strangle her.. a great example of self will run riot. What does that mean to me? It means acting only with my own counsel, acting on my impulses, doing want I want just because I want it regardless of how it impacts others. Easy for me to see now how that kind of thinking or lack of thinking ran my life when I was active.. and for quite some time into sobriety. It was a tough thing for me to recognize, especially when right in the middle.. obsessing over doing something makes it really tough to stop and think or ask for advice. But that was very similar to how I felt when I wanted/craved a drink. AA showed me how to stop doing that and with practice I rarely go off but that doesn't mean I never do. I need to be very careful to think of others, the effect of my actions on them, listen to my internal cues and figure out if I need to stop and let it go overnight, find someone to help me evaluate my plan. Sobriety and living a better life is a journey not a destination.. |
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qualitygrrl38
Location: michigan |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 4:38pm |
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Hi I am Ann, alcoholic, Not sure what that means, run riot.. I will be in and read other posts. This is my first post and I am in intensive outpatient recovery 3 days a week, but relapsed last night, thinking i could get in there again, and it would go ok. NOPE. Got up this morning went for a 4 mile walk to the gas station to buy my cup of ice, and back on again today. I will hang tight with everyone now.
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VIC S.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 5:48pm |
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Howdy ALL,
Vic here and I'm an alcoholic. Self Will Run Riot - Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real alcoholics. No person likes to think he is bodily and mentally different from his fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts that somehow, someday we will control and enjoy our drinking is the real obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death. We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals – usually brief – were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. This was it for me - Thinking I could have one, two or three drinks and stop. Hiding bottles & forgetting where I put some of them. Going to different liquor stores so I wouldn't look like a "regular." Thinking, well I'll just have one more...and then have three more. Looking at the countdown clock for happy hour. Driving while drunk. Having a couple of drinks before a party so I wouldn't look like I'm over-drinking at the party. Dumping the empty bottle in my neighbors garbage bin. Hiding while I'm drinking so no one will see me drinking. Changing from martinis to wine = less alcoholic? And it goes on...ad nauseum. Sound familiar, anyone? |
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If you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much.
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AnnW
Location: Anywhere USA |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 6:01pm |
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((VIC)) Sounds like me absolutely. Thank God that is over.
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Paul D
Location: Southern Oregon |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 7:21pm |
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Good topic, Good posts everyone. Welcome Marissa I echo what BethK said.
Vic I never hid my empties in my neighbor's garbage. Of course I never thought of that. (GRIN) Self will run riot for me meant doing what ever I wanted to do and never asking for anyones elses opinion. The old definition of insainty, doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results decribes my self will run riot to a T. And the results some times sooner sometimes later were always the same, it all turned to crap. Whether it was drinking, work, money, relationships it all turned bad But I always knew that when I got my s--t together again I would be off and running one more time. over and over and over. The funny thing is than now that I more or less do have my s--t together I keep forgetting where I left it. Probably a good thing. |
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RichardB
Location: South Africa |
Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 7:28pm |
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Hello Everyone. My name is Richard and I am an alcoholic in early recovery. Nice to have a topic from the Big Book for a change. Newcomers are not obliged to stick to the topic. You will see from the guidelines that anything that helps you stay sober longer is OK here on the Early Sobriety forum. Just so you know. ((Jody)) How lovely to see you here. Congratulations on your 4th AA birthday and wishing you many more happy sober birthdays. I've thought of you so often and had lost your email address. I now have it from your profile. Unfortunately I relapsed 2 months before my 5th AA birthday. I was alone overseas for 6 weeks. Lost touch with AA, no meetings, terrible physical pain, my sponsor emigrated to New Zealand and I had no Higher Power. Well Chapter 5 starts: “Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.” And I didn't THOROUGHLY follow it. ((Vic)) Nice to see some Big Book Thumping from you. ((Ann )) Welcome. Here's some more from page 62 of the Big Book about Self Will Run Riot “Whatever our protestations, are not most of us concerned with ourselves, our resentments, or our self-pity? Selfishness-self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt. So our troubles, we think, are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves, and the alcoholic is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though he usually doesn't think so. Above everything, we alcoholics must be rid of this selfishness. We must, or it kills us!” ((Paul)) I had a minor but rather obvious realization to-day. Active Alcoholism is all rush. It's a rush to get your own way, keep tidying up the chaos, rush to hide how much we are drinking, rush to get rid of the bottles (very important), and to hide them, rush to get to work and back from work if we are fortunate enough to still have a job, rush to do what you didn't do last week; wondering whether what we said on the telephone last night was (a) comprehensible (b) not offensive and © whether we remember all that was said. Keep Coming Back ! |
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