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    Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 12:43pm
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Location: Eastern Wa.
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 2:31pm
The Simple Joys of Sobriety.

My Alcoholism was fed by my need for drama - everything had to be big, Big, BIG! There was always someone into it with the police, fighting couples both single and wedded, family spats between siblings, gallons of tears then kiss and make-up, (for what it was worth).

I lived for the week-end and Holidays, opportunities to get drunk, drunk and drunker - and of course more drama.
If it wasn't HOT - it was NOT!

Now, with near a good decade of sobriety, my Joy is not always quaking with rapture. This morning, I revel in the serene silence of summer. A smile with a perfect stranger, maybe even some eye contact.

There are so many simple joys in sobriety that it would be nice to read some of our members this week as they remind us of there own.

So let's get to it. What are the simple joys of your sobriety and have you learned to let the drama addiction go yet?

Contentment and long-term sobriety is my wish for all, as once again,.....we take it as it comes.

Edited by Jay M. - 25 Jul 2010 at 3:45pm
"I change me and you get better."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 3:55pm
Hello,

My name is Marissa and I am here observing for a Social Work in Addictions. Although I am here mainly to observe, I would also like to contribute my thoughts.

I know that when I drink the things that are most important to me become clouded. It's easy to blow my family off for another hour at the party, or skip valuable time I could be spending with my kids to go out with my friends. I agree with Jay that it's the drama that keeps it exciting.

But when I am with my kids, and not drinking, I enjoy simple things like hearing my two-year-old son's first stretches of the morning, something I often sleep right through. I enjoy having the energy to get up with them in the morning and enjoy the wonderful moods they are in after having a good night's sleep. I love feeling good enough to get out with them and play at the playground, or take them hiking, instead of hiding from the sun behind dark glasses. I like exhausting myself so that come 9pm, instead of having the urge to get my makeup on and head for the bar, I am completely content to bed headed to bed.

While I am not a heavy drinker, I can still see the differences in my life between the weekends I go out, and the weekends I go ALL out...with my kids. :)

Strength to you all.
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Location: massachusetts
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 5:19pm
Marissa, this is a REAL AA meeting. It is not a class or some online blog that invites the participation of anyone who happens upon it.

The guidelines for this MEETING are:
We ask that participation be limited to AA members only.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking.
Anyone who has that desire may share in the meetings.


Unless you have a desie to quit drinking you are not a member of AA. You are not welcome to participate. You certainly may observe.




Good topic Jay.

It is interesting that you mention the simple joys. I honestly can say living. Smelling the coffee in the morning. Feeling right with myself and the world. Knowing I can drive to work without still being drunk or so hungover that my full attention is not on the road.

I enjoy my work and take pride in doing a good job. My dog is really a bright light in my life, not just a responsibility that takes me from my safe place where I can drink at will.

Friends..
You can't preserve dignity with alcohol.
    


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Location: Anywhere USA
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 5:59pm
It is hard for me to fully describe how much HAPPIER I am in my sobriety. The drama was never my issue. I see to much of that in my work life with my clients. I so hate drama, that the stress and anxiety with my relationship with my brother as it relates to me and between he, me and mother, often turned my life and myself upside down. Now sober, I have put that matter to rest, mostly, and I can't tell you the peace this has brought to me.

The simple things. Waking up in the morning without a hangover. Physically feeling good. Not waking up in a bad mood. Not going to bed in a bad mood. No longer having an overriding feeling of being unfulfilled. The stress of attempting to put a mask on to the outside world. I did not fool every one but I fooled a lot, mostly me.

Doing what I want and when I want to do it based on something else rather than based on my drinking schedule or because of not feeling well due to drinking.

Slowly repairing a relationship with my husband which I realized had deteriorated but I did not care that it had. I am lucky that I have him in my life. Another may taken a pass and opted out.

Living life and enjoying things without drinking. I had not realized how emotionally void and closed I was in the last year of my drinking. I have been sober for a year and finally I feel more emotionally open. I hadn't fully realized the extent of my emotional isolation until recently as it continues to release the last vestiges of its grasp. These things are often hard to see until you pass a certain point wherein you feel different. I continue to grow in these areas.

Being comfortable with my thoughts. Being comfortable with me. Recognizing my limitations in a clearer fashion and being ok with it. No more self-destructive anxiety and insecurities that the alcohol caused on my psyche. I hate what alcohol did to me. Alcohol is my arch enemy, my nemesis. It turned me into something I was not which has taken a very long time to restore and the process is ongoing. I am so very happy that I not only recognize this fact but that I have come to terms with it.

I don't think I have been happy nor content for the past ten years and I didn't fully realize the extent until I stopped drinking and worked a recovery program. AHH, relief. Finally some peace and serenity in the here and now that I don't have to escape in an attempt to find somewhere else ie. my yearly retreat to Colorado for a couple of days of comfort. I will continue to do this but I don't have to and it won't be for an escape.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 6:06pm
WELCOME Marissa, you may have come to participate before you were a qualified AA member but the insights and questions you are asking yourself may just bring you to have a desire to not drink for today.   Some people on this site can only handle people who arrive totally broken – then it is not about the newcomer, it is about the co-dependent that needs their need to be rescuers and fixers of the broken fulfilled. You come here with some level of strength and that is intimidating to the rescuers and fixers. Keep coming back!

Good topic Jay, I have found that joy is a state of being; it is fire in the belly not contingent on outer stimuli. It was reborn as the result of these steps and continues to grow in stability and intensity as I practice these principles in all my affaires, honestly. It grows with the resolution of each character defect; with each surrendered need to control; with each act of unconditional act of love. It requires that one be able to live in the moment in all spheres known to be a human being as opposed to a human that is dependent on stimulus from people, places and things to find excitement which is not joy as I know joy!
Roger
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Location: New Hampshire
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 6:18pm
Ah, the simple pleasure of not having to put my two-cents worth into other folk's point of view. The simple pleasure of being able to see the validity of multiple points of view. The simple pleasure of knowing between black and white just which shade of gray I prefer. The simple pleasure of enjoying a meeting in my own air-conditioned space. The simple pleasure of being able to feel hope and gratitude, instead of death and destruction. Happy sober Sunday, y'all!
Psalm 91, the ultimate shield for enduring protection. LeeU
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Paul D View Drop Down

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Location: Southern Oregon
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 6:46pm
I agree with a lot of what Jay had to say. All except the two decades part. (I wish) Six years ago I had a six figure income, worked 12-14 hours a day six days a week. Everything in my life was about GO! GO! GO, and MORE! MORE! MORE! The only slowing down was at AA meetings. If you were to tell me that six years later I would be living on 8 acres in a small mountain community I would have thought you were nuts.
Thanks to my Higher power and AA that is just where I am. Today excitement is when I catch sight of a large fluffy Bob Cat sunning himself on a rock out back. I spent the first hour this morning out on my front deck watching the birds feeding their fledglings, and enjoying the quiet. AA has taught me that life is not all about GO! GO! GO, and MORE! MORE! MORE! IT is about slowing down enough to actually live it.
Paul
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GordonM357 View Drop Down

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Location: Los Angeles
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 6:58pm
Good Morning All
((Right on Beth))
Good Topic Jay
The key word for me in the topic is 'simple'. Before AA nothing was simple for me. I was always in a rat race. I had to be bigger and better than the next person, but I felt less than most of the time. To me drama was a way of life. Even now with 2 years under my belt when things are going good and the gears of my life are completely mesh, I feel like throwing a monkey wrench in the gears and start things to grind again because thats what makes me feel normal.
I have found that today when I simply do things to satisfy the spirit rather than the ego I get serenity. I now see that my ego can never be staisfied, it always wants more, it always wants me to be the master 'fixer'. If I apply the prinicples behind the steps my spirit is satisfied. As it says in the BB I'm no longer trying to fight anything or anyone, better yet I'm not trying to fix anything or anyone. I just live and let live, turn it over to God and let go. Peace of mind, true happiness and serenity are my reward.

Man what a good life I have today.

T.G.C.H.H.O



Edited by GordonM357 - 25 Jul 2010 at 7:04pm
Gordon M.
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Greg C View Drop Down

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Location: California
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 8:48pm
I find this a bit of a tricky topic. I mean, it's like housework: you only notice the stuff that doesn't get done. Maybe the ability to take certain simple pleasures for granted is a simple pleasure in itself. Every day may be a miracle, but expecting every day to feel like a miracle just doesn't seem realistic. I've seen others who looked like they were planning to keep that up indefinitely, but it looks exhausting to me.

As to the "other" topic:

I don't see where the meeting guidelines DO say that participation is limited to alcoholics only, except to the extent that that may be considered implicit in the request that "all sharing in this meeting be limited to the topic as it relates to your alcoholism." (my bold). Personally, if getting "observed" is the toughest thing I come up against today I'll consider myself to be in pretty good shape. But then, that's just me, and I've got twenty years of sobriety under my belt. I can see how it might be intimidating for the newcomer (I'd like to say that I can remember how that would have felt, but I'm committed to honesty; if things go on the way they're heading, it won't be long before I'll be lucky to remember my name). If I wanted to observe any sort of critter in its natural habitat, I don't believe I'd start right out by giving away my position -- but then again, that's just me.
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